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May 16, 2020 03:27PM
True, but not every success with monkeys translates to humans. But let us hope.
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President Trump says he is taking hydroxychloroquine to lessen symptoms should he get the coronavirus, even though the malaria drug is unproven for fighting COVID-19. https://t.co/iFYssl47WY
President Trump says he is taking hydroxychloroquine to lessen symptoms should he get the coronavirus, even though the malaria drug is unproven for fighting COVID-19. https://t.co/iFYssl47WY
Unproven is a difficult concept. Strictly speaking, NOTHING is ever proven in science. However, I have read a report from Wuhan, and one from a French doctor. They both say much the same thing, so I shall deal with the French one, from memory so it may be a little wrong in numbers. There were something like 80 serious patients that were expected (based on symptoms and comparable experience) to take a minimum of 13 days to show signs of recovery, or die within that time. Of these patients treated with hydroxychloroquine phosphate, three died, one so quickly treatment with anything was probably impossible, while most of the rest were effectively recovered in 6 days. With these odds, if I were to get the virus and develop severe symptoms, I would plead for it. I also intensely dislike the statements that "It is dangerous and untried". I have taken the closely related chloroquine with absolutely no adverse side effects. (That was when I spent a little time in a zone where malaria was a real hazard.)
Wow! Ian. that's an amazing share. More people should come forward with successful use of the drug. However the point remains, it's not yet proved to be a cure for COVID. So until then, it's an option we should be given a choice to have access to!
Not suggesting everybody have to take it. Just that it should not be prohibited on the basis of negative thinking. My view is, if I were in the position, I would want to take the chance. If I am going to die, at least I would like to think I went down fighting :-) Offer a choice.
You have a great point Ian. I must volunteer that my husband has had bouts of malaria which were cured by the very same drug n he has lived to tell the tale!
Thanks for sharing, both of you. Let's just hope the scientific community comes to a conclusion about its use soon.
UK news:
Coronavirus: Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-b...
Coronavirus: Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-b...
What have you challenged yourself to do during the lockdown? Maybe you’ve tried to learn a new language, become a better cook, master a musical instrument or get better at your favourite sport. This is a good time to learn something new. Good luck! https://t.co/zgXL6NvSL4
Seriously ill Covid-19 patients who were treated with hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine were more likely to die or develop dangerous heart arrhythmias, according to a large observational study published Friday in the medical journal The Lancet. https://t.co/0JNP6TDk5V
The lockdown challenges are brilliant! I refuse to be led to shaking me legs on TicToc but most others seem do able.
It's really not that bad. I quite enjoy watching them. Although I haven't dared try them myself. Any group members who have succumbed to it?
Grasshopper wrote: "What have you challenged yourself to do during the lockdown? Maybe you’ve tried to learn a new language, become a better cook, master a musical instrument or get better at your favourite sport. Thi..."Of course I have!
Language: Xhosa
Cooking: Deep fried locusts
Instrument: Krumhorn
Sport: Synchronised swimming
"COVID-19: The New York Times prints names of lives lost to COVID-19 on front page" https://twitter.com/i/events/12190575...
Beatrice wrote: "Synchronised swimming may not be impossible..."I am a poor swimmer. I did eventually manage to swim a length, although I was convinced I was going to drown first.
Coronavirus in the Maldives: The couple trapped on never-ending honeymoon
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-5...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-5...
The Archbishop of Canterbury states that he has experienced "an overwhelming sense the world is getting more and more difficult and gloomy".
Coronavirus: Monkeys 'escape with COVID-19 samples' after attacking lab assistant
https://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...
https://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...
Grasshopper wrote: "Coronavirus: Monkeys 'escape with COVID-19 samples' after attacking lab assistanthttps://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru..."
A worrying development. Cunning disruptive monkeys are a big problem in India.
They are! You have been watching the wrong documentaries.Certainly in the cities! The pickings are best there. Of course the humans try to foil the monkeys, or at least punish them for their criminal actions.
Not especially. I am a member of the magpie genus, I collect pearls of knowledge from here, there and everywhere.
"The orange or gray monkeys, which weigh 12 to 17 pounds, have become one of the most dreaded pests in India, biting around 1,000 people a day nationwide and overrunning cities like New Delhi. The monkey problem has become so overwhelming that officials are searching for ways to use birth control on the animals."(May 11 2017)
This is the latest report I could find. But it does show there was a serious problem. Would you want to be bitten by a 17 pound orange monkey? Perhaps the enforced birth control worked.
I have seen BBC reports of sheep and deer on the streets of London in lockdown. It's not completely impossible.






