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message 101: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 269 comments True, but not every success with monkeys translates to humans. But let us hope.


message 102: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
This vaccine race is something the world has to win soon!


message 103: by Bradley (new)

Bradley Simon | 1028 comments That's true Grasshopper. The fate of humanity depends on it


message 104: by Graham (new)

Graham J. | 404 comments Amen to that


message 105: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments More power to their elbows and brains.


message 106: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Black | 1737 comments The world lives on hope..


message 107: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
So you really want to see your friends? Here's how to assess the risk https://t.co/Cj9zCDvJSb


message 108: by Alexis (new)

Alexis Harding | 1386 comments I really do!


message 109: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
You know what to do...


message 110: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Read @ Ur own risk!!!!
President Trump says he is taking hydroxychloroquine to lessen symptoms should he get the coronavirus, even though the malaria drug is unproven for fighting COVID-19. https://t.co/iFYssl47WY


message 111: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 269 comments Unproven is a difficult concept. Strictly speaking, NOTHING is ever proven in science. However, I have read a report from Wuhan, and one from a French doctor. They both say much the same thing, so I shall deal with the French one, from memory so it may be a little wrong in numbers. There were something like 80 serious patients that were expected (based on symptoms and comparable experience) to take a minimum of 13 days to show signs of recovery, or die within that time. Of these patients treated with hydroxychloroquine phosphate, three died, one so quickly treatment with anything was probably impossible, while most of the rest were effectively recovered in 6 days. With these odds, if I were to get the virus and develop severe symptoms, I would plead for it. I also intensely dislike the statements that "It is dangerous and untried". I have taken the closely related chloroquine with absolutely no adverse side effects. (That was when I spent a little time in a zone where malaria was a real hazard.)


message 112: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Wow! Ian. that's an amazing share. More people should come forward with successful use of the drug. However the point remains, it's not yet proved to be a cure for COVID. So until then, it's an option we should be given a choice to have access to!


message 113: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 269 comments Not suggesting everybody have to take it. Just that it should not be prohibited on the basis of negative thinking. My view is, if I were in the position, I would want to take the chance. If I am going to die, at least I would like to think I went down fighting :-) Offer a choice.


message 114: by Beatrice (new)

Beatrice Williams | 2516 comments You have a great point Ian. I must volunteer that my husband has had bouts of malaria which were cured by the very same drug n he has lived to tell the tale!


message 115: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Thanks for sharing, both of you. Let's just hope the scientific community comes to a conclusion about its use soon.


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Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
UK news:
Coronavirus: Captain Tom Moore awarded knighthood for NHS fundraising
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-b...


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Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
What have you challenged yourself to do during the lockdown? Maybe you’ve tried to learn a new language, become a better cook, master a musical instrument or get better at your favourite sport. This is a good time to learn something new. Good luck! https://t.co/zgXL6NvSL4


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Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Seriously ill Covid-19 patients who were treated with hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine were more likely to die or develop dangerous heart arrhythmias, according to a large observational study published Friday in the medical journal The Lancet. https://t.co/0JNP6TDk5V


message 119: by Jason (new)

Jason (jasonbranson) | 165 comments Am trying new skills everyday. just not persistent enough!


message 120: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Never give up before the miracle happens...


message 121: by Graham (new)

Graham J. | 404 comments The lockdown challenges are brilliant! I refuse to be led to shaking me legs on TicToc but most others seem do able.


message 122: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Black | 1737 comments Yes that Tic tic. craze is peaking to an unbelievable frenzy


message 123: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
It's really not that bad. I quite enjoy watching them. Although I haven't dared try them myself. Any group members who have succumbed to it?


message 124: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments Could not get a large loaf. But as the saying goes, a small loaf is better than no loaf at all.


message 125: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments Grasshopper wrote: "What have you challenged yourself to do during the lockdown? Maybe you’ve tried to learn a new language, become a better cook, master a musical instrument or get better at your favourite sport. Thi..."

Of course I have!

Language: Xhosa
Cooking: Deep fried locusts
Instrument: Krumhorn
Sport: Synchronised swimming


message 126: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
You jest! None of the above sound plausible


message 127: by Beatrice (new)

Beatrice Williams | 2516 comments Synchronised swimming may not be impossible...


message 128: by Alexis (new)

Alexis Harding | 1386 comments This makes for very interesting case studies


message 129: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Yes they do Alexis!


message 130: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
"COVID-19: The New York Times prints names of lives lost to COVID-19 on front page" https://twitter.com/i/events/12190575...


message 131: by Graham (new)

Graham J. | 404 comments It's like in the times of war


message 132: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments Beatrice wrote: "Synchronised swimming may not be impossible..."

I am a poor swimmer. I did eventually manage to swim a length, although I was convinced I was going to drown first.


message 133: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Black | 1737 comments Well, you still have time before Olympics 2021!


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Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Coronavirus in the Maldives: The couple trapped on never-ending honeymoon
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-5...


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Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Ramadan: German church opens doors for Muslim prayers
https://www.bbc.com/news/worl
d-europe-52780600


message 136: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments The Archbishop of Canterbury states that he has experienced "an overwhelming sense the world is getting more and more difficult and gloomy".


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Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Coronavirus: Monkeys 'escape with COVID-19 samples' after attacking lab assistant
https://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...


message 138: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Leaning Tower of Pisa in northern Italy reopens after three months shut https://t.co/BANU2LgXTh


message 139: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments Grasshopper wrote: "Coronavirus: Monkeys 'escape with COVID-19 samples' after attacking lab assistant
https://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru..."


A worrying development. Cunning disruptive monkeys are a big problem in India.


message 140: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
Are they? Ne'er heard that one before!


message 141: by Beatrice (new)

Beatrice Williams | 2516 comments Surely not in the cities?


message 142: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments They are! You have been watching the wrong documentaries.

Certainly in the cities! The pickings are best there. Of course the humans try to foil the monkeys, or at least punish them for their criminal actions.


message 143: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
You sound like an authority on all things Simian


message 144: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments Not especially. I am a member of the magpie genus, I collect pearls of knowledge from here, there and everywhere.


message 145: by Grasshopper, Administrator (new)

Grasshopper Bot (daisyking) | 6902 comments Mod
:))) That's enough pearling for one night!


message 146: by Graham (new)

Graham J. | 404 comments I am quite a magpie too in that sense


message 147: by Bernard (last edited May 31, 2020 03:52AM) (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments "The orange or gray monkeys, which weigh 12 to 17 pounds, have become one of the most dreaded pests in India, biting around 1,000 people a day nationwide and overrunning cities like New Delhi. The monkey problem has become so overwhelming that officials are searching for ways to use birth control on the animals."
(May 11 2017)

This is the latest report I could find. But it does show there was a serious problem. Would you want to be bitten by a 17 pound orange monkey? Perhaps the enforced birth control worked.


message 148: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Black | 1737 comments This is ridiculous. They are probably exaggerated random incidents. What's your source?


message 149: by Bradley (new)

Bradley Simon | 1028 comments I have seen BBC reports of sheep and deer on the streets of London in lockdown. It's not completely impossible.


message 150: by Bernard (new)

Bernard Smith | 3030 comments I did see a flock of sheep in a high street in Wales. I think they were looking for bargains.


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