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March Group Read: The Girl With The Louding Voice
Lulu wrote: "This is where we will be discussing March’s group read The Girl with the Louding Voice by Abi Daré. This will be more of an informal discussion. We will just pos..."
That will work. I will start reading this book in the next couple of days
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I’m going to try to get it from the library.
The audio version of this book is preformed by Adjoa Andoh, who also read STAY WITH ME by Ayobami Adebayo, one of my favorite books ever! Her reading is divine! I whispersynced this kindle book, so it was quite expensive, but so worth it to me. I keep rewinding. LOL!
Well, since I can’t get it from the library before March is over, long list waiting to read it. I’ll get it on audio, I still have one audible credit. I just whispersynced Deacon King Kong so I can’t do that again anytime soon. Lol. I have to budget myself when it comes to books.
would a Digital copy of the book be helpful ?
Yes it would, but how do I get a digital copy? What is a digital copy, lol. Today Beverly Jenkins will be at the Porter Square bookstore in Cambridge MA and I’m going to see her and get her to autograph her new book.
We read a historical romance by her not too long ago in the group. I know this will cost some money too. She is one of my favorite authors.
Look in your kindle for your kindle email address and message it to me
Okay, done. Thank you so very much!!!!
Cool. I've been waiting to read this with a group.
This book is amazing. The narrator is wonderful.
Dosha (Bluestocking7) wrote: "This book is amazing. The narrator is wonderful."Agreed, Dosha! I got to 10% and then decided to go back to the beginning. LOL! This time, however, I’m going to keep going.
Usually when I listen to an audiobook, I find it helpful to follow along with the print version of the book,
Bernie wrote: "Usually when I listen to an audiobook, I find it helpful to follow along with the print version of the book,"Me too, Bernie. I just wish this pleasure wasn’t so costly.
Trudy wrote: "Bernie wrote: "Usually when I listen to an audiobook, I find it helpful to follow along with the print version of the book,"Me too, Bernie. I just wish this pleasure wasn’t so costly."
Trudy wrote: "Bernie wrote: "Usually when I listen to an audiobook, I find it helpful to follow along with the print version of the book,"
Me too, Bernie. I just wish this pleasure wasn’t so costly."
Trudy wrote: "10%. Dayum! ““This is your wife now, from today till forever, she is your own. Do her anyhow you want. Use her till she is useless! May she never sleep in her father house again!” and everybody wa..."
Costly is right. If you read electronically and you need the ebook, let me know.
***** QUESTIONS *****1. What do you think Adunni’s comparison of her mother to a rose flower (“a yellow and red and purple rose with shining leafs”) symbolizes? She also remembers her mother having a sweet smell like a rosebush. Why do you think she compares her mother to this particular type of flower? And how do you think our five senses play into our memories?
2. Adunni dreads her upcoming marriage to Morufu, but her friend Enitan is genuinely excited for Adunni, believing that her life will be improved after the wedding. Why do you think there is a disconnect between Adunni’s and Enitan’s points of view? Can you draw any comparisons between cultural attitudes toward marriage in America and Nigeria
#2. From a young age, Adunni’s mother reinforced the importance of education for her. Also Adunni witnessed the disaster of a marriage arranged without love. On the other hand, Enitan was apparently never taught about the power of an education and she was also viewed as having limited marriage possibilities because of her mouth injury. It appears she was encouraged to be able to take care of herself, eventhough she said she was looking forward to marriage, too. As far as cultural attitudes about marriage, I think the words spoken by Adunni’s father during the wedding ceremony says it all!
I got to 12% and I’ve had enough of Morufu for today. I am getting so pissed off. LOL!
Bernie wrote: "Trudy wrote: "Bernie wrote: "Usually when I listen to an audiobook, I find it helpful to follow along with the print version of the book,"Me too, Bernie. I just wish this pleasure wasn’t so costl..."
Wow, thank you so much, but I already purchased it.
I just met Labake. Wow, how scary.So far I am really enjoying this book. I really appreciate the average american’s ability to get a basic education and choose their own spouse. Although women in America often complain about the way they are treated by their male counterparts, the disrespect is so much more prevalent in Africa
18%. I keep thinking how Adunni is just a child who wants to play.
Exactly. She is such a sweetie.
Bernie wrote: "I just met Labake. Wow, how scary.So far I am really enjoying this book. I really appreciate the average american’s ability to get a basic education and choose their own spouse. Although women in..."
Me too, Bernie. It makes me so emotional, though. My heart is breaking for Adunni, who is just a little girl who wants to play.
Regarding arranged marriages, I’ve met a few couples from India who are in arranged marriages and plan to do the same for their children. The difference is that they adore their children and feel great responsibility and honor to choose for them. The young people tell me they are okay with this arrangement because they trust their parents. Not my way, but it seems to work for them. However, in this story, the father does not care for his daughter and views her as a burden to get rid of as soon as possible. SIGH!
Trudy wrote: "#2. From a young age, Adunni’s mother reinforced the importance of education for her. Also Adunni witnessed the disaster of a marriage arranged without love. On the other hand, Enitan was apparentl..."So I guess not all arranged marriage’s are bad.
Okay, I just finished chapter 8. Are you kidding me? Poor kid! Her father is disgusting. ***SPOILER ALERT*** Her new husband is a nasty pig too. What the hell is with the two wives, why is the place of this rich man a dump? You can smell the bathroom and dust comes out of the mattress? Hello?
Seriously, I knew I was in Trouble when the prologue stated how rich the country is and how high the number of people that live below poverty. My heart has been breaking for this poor child since she found out she was getting married instead of getting an education. A woman is only good for making sons? If I could crawl into the pages of this book I’ll murder someone or two someone’s I would t hesitate.
This book is so good it’s disgusting.
Trudy wrote: "#2. From a young age, Adunni’s mother reinforced the importance of education for her. Also Adunni witnessed the disaster of a marriage arranged without love. On the other hand, Enitan was apparentl..."Those words spoken at the wedding were so disturbing, I had to read them twice, to make sure I was reading right.
It’s a shame that so many crave education, when so many others take one for granted.
Morufu is definitely a horrible character. He and Labake deserve one another.
***** QUESTIONS *****3. Compare and contrast Khadija with the glimpses we get of Adunni’s mother. How were their lives similar or different from one another?
4. Why do you think Bamidele doesn’t return for Khadija? What do you think he whispers in her ear before leaving her for the last time?
5. Why do you think Adunni is closer with Kayus than Born-boy? What is it that makes their sibling bond so deep?
#5. I think Born Boy was the”precious privileged” first born male child. Didn’t I read that he even slept on the only bed, while his siblings slept on the floor? Kayus would always be “second” and Adunni had no ranking at all.Also Adunni became like a second mother to Kayus after their mother passed away.
Dosha (Bluestocking7) wrote: "Okay, I just finished chapter 8. Are you kidding me? Poor kid! Her father is disgusting. ***SPOILER ALERT*** Her new husband is a nasty pig too. What the hell is with the two wives, why is the pl..."
Dosha, I feel you. When Morufu was setting up the “bed business” schedule , I was so disgusted. He is a nasty pig who thinks so much of his cab driving self! In addition, the pressure he puts on these women to produce boys or risk their families not being fed is despicable! So far, the men in this book are all pretty foul!
The only decent male is her little brother. I’m scurd to think what he’s gonna be like when he gets older. I’m so glad I’m in this group. I would not have known about this book. I wonder what time period this book takes place in. Is it the 21st century?
Dosha (Bluestocking7) wrote: "The only decent male is her little brother. I’m scurd to think what he’s gonna be like when he gets older. I’m so glad I’m in this group. I would not have known about this book. I wonder what tim..."
Chapter 19 has many clues.
#3. Both women were loving and kind. Due to finances, neither woman was able to marry the man she loved#4. I think he realized that he could be killed for what he did and was interested in saving himself. He probably whispered I LOVE YOU.
Bernie wrote: "#3. Both women were loving and kind. Due to finances, neither woman was able to marry the man she loved#4. I think he realized that he could be killed for what he did and was interested in saving..."
I was thinking he was saying, “Forgive me.”
Trudy wrote: "Bernie wrote: "#3. Both women were loving and kind. Due to finances, neither woman was able to marry the man she loved#4. I think he realized that he could be killed for what he did and was inter..."
Wow. Powerful.
Either way, what a jerk !
Bernie and Dosha, I am wondering about one thing though. Why didn’t Bamidele come back with that soap or whatever it was? Khadijah was not going to name him as father of the baby. Right? So why wouldn’t he just help her if he wasn’t going to be connected to the pregnancy? Did I miss something?
Trudy wrote: "Bernie and Dosha, I am wondering about one thing though. Why didn’t Bamidele come back with that soap or whatever it was? Khadijah was not going to name him as father of the baby. Right? So why wou..."There was no guarantee that he would not be named in the future, and his actions showed that he did not want to take any chances.
Khadija showed up with Adunni, who now knows the truth too.
Big Madame! Holy crap! She looks a hot mess! Dang, I’m hysterical! LOL LOL LOL! 🤣
Bernie wrote: "Trudy wrote: "Bernie and Dosha, I am wondering about one thing though. Why didn’t Bamidele come back with that soap or whatever it was? Khadijah was not going to name him as father of the baby. Rig..."Makes sense.
Wow! Got to chapter 30. Stopping for awhile. Whew!
I’m still playing catch up. I’m on chapter 14.
Only 1/3 of the month has gone by, so you’re good.
Bernie wrote: "Trudy wrote: "#2. From a young age, Adunni’s mother reinforced the importance of education for her. Also Adunni witnessed the disaster of a marriage arranged without love. On the other hand, Enitan..."The quest for an education is really something if you cannot have it. So many kids in USA hate school and don't want to go because they are forced to. Very interesting.
Bernie wrote: "Trudy wrote: "Bernie and Dosha, I am wondering about one thing though. Why didn’t Bamidele come back with that soap or whatever it was? Khadijah was not going to name him as father of the baby. Rig..."Well, he didn't really know how to get out of it so he took them to the water. If he was really trying to help her he would have brought the soap with him in the first place. Both wives were too trusting of this dude. Iya told her that he is not going to live up to his promise. She had to hide. But Dayum!!!! I just got to chapter 25. Wow!!!!
Bernie wrote: "Only 1/3 of the month has gone by, so you’re good."I'm up to chapter 25 now. This book is perfect for whispersync. The part where Adunni is singing in the car is so wonderful to hear on audio. I have read a good bit on my kindle, but I have been listening to it every chance I get.
Dosha (Bluestocking7) wrote: "Bernie wrote: "Only 1/3 of the month has gone by, so you’re good."I'm up to chapter 25 now. This book is perfect for whispersync. The part where Adunni is singing in the car is so wonderful to he..."
Me, too. 😊
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