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message 1: by Corinne (last edited Apr 30, 2020 10:37PM) (new)

Corinne | 101 comments Mod
Thanks to the huge amount of amazing people that have joined the group has grown faster than I thought it would. Now it's time to establish clearly how many invitations we're willing to receive. I have taken upon myself to send an invite once a week, but as other members might be doing the same, perhaps we're reaching a level where some members are getting more invitations than they're willing to handle.

On the other hand, some people love to receive invitations. Can we discuss how many invitations are you willing to receive?

I'm going to ask you all that nobody sends invitations to vote until we reach a consensus.


message 2: by Tammie (new)

Tammie | 8 comments At least 5


message 3: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Reads (minxreadsalot) | 5 comments 5 sounds like a good number to me.


message 4: by Vicky (new)

Vicky  | 8 comments Minx wrote: "5 sounds like a good number to me."

Tammie wrote: "At least 5"

Weekly or Monthly?


message 5: by Audrey (new)

Audrey (niceyackerman) | 15 comments It doesn't matter to me. Two, two hundred, whatever.


message 6: by Tiffany (new)

Tiffany Knight | 11 comments @audre I’m the same I’m down with whatever


message 7: by CYIReadBooks (new)

CYIReadBooks (Claire) | 5 comments I'm okay with any amount.


message 8: by Aimee (new)

Aimee | 1 comments I'm of the same mind as Chris. The number doesn't matter to me but the content does.


message 9: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Reads (minxreadsalot) | 5 comments Vicky wrote: "Minx wrote: "5 sounds like a good number to me."

Tammie wrote: "At least 5"

Weekly or Monthly?"


lol, weekly


AℳY♔Queen of Fat cats♔Ain't no lie Baby Byebyebye (emyoverland) | 183 comments Aimee wrote: "I'm of the same mind as Chris. The number doesn't matter to me but the content does."

I'm of the same mind as Aimee....and Chris!


AℳY♔Queen of Fat cats♔Ain't no lie Baby Byebyebye (emyoverland) | 183 comments When I joined PFOS I asked Corinne-sama to limit the number of invitations, 'cuz I wasn't counting on ♥Lost for Real's and ♥Kriss's polls. Those two create GREAT polls. @Kriss and @LFR send me as many invites as you want, the more the better cuz your polls are just...AWESOMETACULAR♥!!!

Having said that, I relate to those that say no invites 'cuz I have a very active feed and I can't be here every day! Just two days away and I receive a bazillion notifications from friends, if it turns out that I'm also receiving invites of people I don't even know....it could be a A NIGHTMARE. And if I'm checking on my phone is even WORSE!! Even when switching to desktop mode is difficult!!! What am I saying is...It's not as easy to ignore the invites.


AℳY♔Queen of Fat cats♔Ain't no lie Baby Byebyebye (emyoverland) | 183 comments Corinne wrote: "nobody sends invitations to vote until we reach a consensus"
Aw! I love sending invites to my friends. Not fair!

When the poll is really, REALLY interesting and I send the invite to friends they usually join the group. I pinky swear I won't send invites to members until you give me the get go, but let me risk losing a couple of friends!!! PLEASE!You'll get more members!!


message 13: by Carrie (new)

Carrie  (icanhasbooks) My thoughts on poll invites is this, if I get invited to one and I can or want to vote I will. If its something that doesn't interest and or anything I can relate to then I'll close the window/skip over that notification. The number to me is no big deal. Invite me to them all, doesn't mean I'll vote on them all but chances are I will most.


message 14: by Bella (new)

Bella (anxiousbooknerd) | 1 comments Depends on the content if I vote on it or not lol


message 15: by Lisazj1 (new)

Lisazj1 | 10 comments I don't mind however many are sent. I don't answer when I'm buried in work or if I don't have an opinion. :)


message 16: by Parvati Patil (new)

Parvati Patil  | 26 comments AMY (pronounced Ⓐh-ℳeⓨ) ♔♔Queen Of Fat Cats ♔♔ DIE YOUNG ADULT GENRE DIE!♔♔ wrote: "Aimee wrote: "I'm of the same mind as Chris. The number doesn't matter to me but the content does."

I'm of the same mind as Aimee....and Chris!"


I'm of the same mind as Amy, Aimee, and Chris.


message 17: by Viki (new)

Viki (torykohrin) | 4 comments AMY (pronounced Ⓐh-ℳeⓨ) ♔♔Queen Of Fat Cats ♔♔ DIE YOUNG ADULT GENRE DIE!♔♔ wrote: "When I joined PFOS I asked Corinne-sama to limit the number of invitations, 'cuz I wasn't counting on ♥Lost for Real's and ♥Kriss's polls. Those two create GREAT polls. @Kriss and @LFR send me as m..."

Thank you! It means a lot. I am glad I am on the right track when I am not always sure I can even formulate the question, much less the answers =D. If I posted it as I really wanted, it would be a whole page detailing how and why and when I came to think to pose such a question - well, questions, I could think of way too many additional questions around any topic =D.


message 18: by Lisa Boyce (new)

Lisa Boyce | 2 comments To be frank, if I do not want to participate in a topic I won't regardless of how many times I am asked. Or, if the question will take me hours to come up with an answer such as what were your favorite books last year? I read over 300 and while there are always stand outs that's a lot of books to go through.


message 19: by Corinne (last edited Feb 25, 2020 07:56PM) (new)

Corinne | 101 comments Mod
According to Lost For Real Poll results
https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/1...
There's a considerable group of people eager to receive as many invites to vote for polls as possible, and there's also a group that considers there shouldn't be more than 5 polls invitations a week, and that only if the content is good.

Anyone interested in sending invites to vote can do it, as long as they send the invites only to the people who voted for the option Yes, invite me to every poll . I'll send some invites myself and I'll change featured poll every week.


message 20: by ⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ (last edited Mar 03, 2020 10:33PM) (new)

⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ (lunelis) | 12 comments Mod
Corinne wrote: "According to Lost For Real Poll results
https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/1...
There's a considerable group of people eager to receive as many invites to vote for polls as possible, and there's..."


I wish there was a feature that sorted people automatically. On my end, it's just alphabetical, so to only ever send invites to those who voted for "send me all" is a lot more effort than it's worth, since we'd have to manually look up names among the whole list and select them individually each time. I would just randomly select everyone on 1 or 2 pages and all my own friends to cast a decent net. I won't be doing any more polls in the case of "only send to those who voted 'send all' on this poll" being the rule.

I appreciate the desire to appease everyone and cut back on spam, but that rule is a bigger amount of effort for whoever is inviting to the poll than to those receiving a notification that can be ignored--in my opinion, at least.

It was fun while it lasted though! I had fun seeing people talk about their book habits through the polls I created and seeing what was and wasn't a popular choice :)


message 21: by Corinne (last edited Mar 04, 2020 07:30PM) (new)

Corinne | 101 comments Mod
⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ wrote: "I wish there was a feature that sorted people automatically.
Actually, there is, or at least it's close. I'll send you a PM. There's a way we can work around the restrictions so it wouldn't be time-consuming, if that's okay for you.

On my end, it's just alphabetical, so to only ever send invites to those who voted for "send me all"
There should be two options: One feature sends the invitations to every member of the group. The other to your friends. I see no reason why people in this group can't send as many invites to their own friends as they want to.


I won't be doing any more polls in the case of "only send to those who voted 'send all' on this poll" being the rule.
That's a provisional rule, as the results of the poll aren't conclusive. Not even a 25% of members has voted yet. What I need at the moment is avoiding a saturation of invites.


message 22: by Claire (new)

Claire (cmpsuess) | 2 comments 2 a week tops for me :-)


message 23: by Corinne (last edited May 08, 2020 01:37PM) (new)

Corinne | 101 comments Mod
Claire wrote: "2 a week tops for me :-)"

I'll do my best to ensure you don't receive more than 2 a week, there might be slips now and then, but feel free to approach me if you're receiving more invites than you can handle. An overwhelming majority of people are okay with at least one invitation so that's the only safe way to go for now. I'm willing to look up whose members want to receive more invites and send more invites to them.

For those of you eager to send invites, another safe to work around the restrictions is by inviting just your friends. I have no problem with you sending invites to your friends that aren't part of the group yet, in fact, I encourage you to do that. It's not the same receiving an invitation from a friend than from a stranger. Personally, I love receiving an invite from someone who already knows my book taste to vote in an interesting poll. I unfriend people who never interact with me, and poll inviting can be a wonderful way to interact when the content is good. People love feeling included.


message 24: by nintoni (new)

nintoni | 2 comments I wholeheartedly agree with Carrie.


message 25: by Luv (new)

Luv  | 5 comments +1 I love R-rated YA and NA. When I've taken the time to look up what GR friends are reading I've never found a book that sounds interesting. I delete those emails without opening now.


message 26: by AℳY♔Queen of Fat cats♔Ain't no lie Baby Byebyebye (last edited Mar 31, 2020 05:59PM) (new)

AℳY♔Queen of Fat cats♔Ain't no lie Baby Byebyebye (emyoverland) | 183 comments Luv wrote: "+1 I love R-rated YA and NA. When I've taken the time to look up what GR friends are reading I've never found a book that sounds interesting. I delete those emails without opening now."

Let me guess, you never befriend the KU elite, the coolest group of readers in Goodreads. The KU elite always has interesting books to read cuz the best books out there are affordable and easy to get with just one click. I always said that if you haven't even heard of Amy Harmon, Laura Thalassa, Jaymin Eve, Annette Marie, Amy Bartol, Caroline Peckham, you *plays dramatic drums* HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!
Among KU elite authors and mainstream favorites like Sarah J. Maas, Ilona Andrews, Patricia Briggs and Lisa Kleypas (so so cool) I own 600 books and keep borrowing KU and downloanding freebies and discounted books.


message 27: by Luv (new)

Luv  | 5 comments AMY (Ah-Mei) Catching up TBR thanks to Mexican beer virus. ♔♔Queen Of Fat Cats ♔♔ wrote: "Luv wrote: "+1 I love R-rated YA and NA. When I've taken the time to look up what GR friends are reading I've never found a book that sounds interesting. I delete those emails without opening now."..."

Let me clarify myself. Rereading my comment I need to be a little more explicit. I have found many great books through reading recommendations on the Goodreads site from fellow bookies. Those auto emails GR sends out not so much. After investigating those leads one too many times I've never found a book from an email GR sent that says "See what your friends are reading". If I knew how to stop GR from auto generating those emails I would do so. One of the great things about GR is finding new books to read.
Now as for the group you mentioned (KU elite) I have cut back on all my online activities because it severely limited the amount of time I could be reading. I was wasting too much time chatting and surfing the internet when I could be reading a book. I have a HUGE TBR pile and it keeps growing. I'm not making any headway in my pile. I also have never heard read any of the authors you mentioned. I promise to take a look at them in the future.


message 28: by Parvati Patil (last edited Apr 01, 2020 04:39PM) (new)

Parvati Patil  | 26 comments Luv wrote: "+1 I love R-rated YA and NA. When I've taken the time to look up what GR friends are reading I've never found a book that sounds interesting. I delete those emails without opening now."

Tell me about it, it's annoying.
To stop receiving emails you have to edit your settings.

1) In desktop mode click on your goodreads avatar
You'll see this menu
Profile
Friends
Groups
Discussions
Comments
Reading challenge
Kindle Notes
Quotes
Favorite genres
Friend recommendations
Account Settings
Help
Sign out



2) Click on Account settings.

You search through

Profile Settings Emails Feeds

3) Click on Emails

4) Uncheck all the options.

I hope that helps.


message 29: by Luv (new)

Luv  | 5 comments Bless you. I unchecked them all.


⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ (lunelis) | 12 comments Mod
The only worthwhile email was the one about kindle deals they axed because Amazon doesn't want you to easily know about sales :/

It was nice to know when stuff on my to-read list had a cheap kindle version! Now I have to manually look around for sales and it blows.


message 31: by Parvati Patil (last edited Apr 01, 2020 07:42PM) (new)

Parvati Patil  | 26 comments ⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ wrote: "It was nice to know when stuff on my to-read list had a cheap kindle version! Now I have to manually look around for sales and it blows."

Have you ever tried Book gorilla and Book bub? Book bub actually has a way to post reviews. You can't shelve like you do in Goodreads but they never censor your reviews.


message 32: by Parvati Patil (last edited Apr 01, 2020 07:49PM) (new)

Parvati Patil  | 26 comments Luv wrote: "Bless you. I unchecked them all."

Glad it helped. Even with your settings adjusted as to not receive mails nor notifications, if someone creates a poll of the Help me to decide what should I read next kind you'll still receive an invitation to vote
-From an stranger
-Never about books that you're really interested in, it's mostly fantasy and/or YA new releases.
-Once and again and again, ad naseum.
I have found nothing that works against that kind of spam. I applaud Corinne for setting a limit to the invitations in this group.


⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ (lunelis) | 12 comments Mod
I love R-rated YA and NA wrote: "⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ wrote: "It was nice to know when stuff on my to-read list had a cheap kindle version! Now I have to manually look around for sales and it blows."

Have you ever tried Book gorilla and..."


I'm signed up to a lot of services like that but, really, they never tell me any sales I'd be interested in. Lots of indie titles that are already really cheap or the same few perma-free titles or they tend to focus on genres I'm just not into. They tend to be too slow to keep up to date with the good "one day only" sales on titles from major publishers or quality indie writers and often times don't remove sales that have already ended.

It was nicer when goodreads alerted me to sales on books I already knew I wanted to read. Other deal-oriented sites and emails just haven't come close.


message 34: by Parvati Patil (last edited Apr 01, 2020 08:39PM) (new)

Parvati Patil  | 26 comments ⋆☆☽ Kriss ☾☆⋆ wrote: "It was nicer when goodreads alerted me to sales on books I already knew I wanted to read. Other deal-oriented sites and emails just haven't come close"

You're right, the bookbub newsletter has some downsides. I'd love to find everything at just one site and it'd be great if Goodreads kept the deals the way they were. I think it's not amazon that it's behind the disappearance of the deals. For what I've observed, and (admittedly, 80% speculation on my part based on anecdotes), literary agencies and major publishing houses have great influence in the current administration and the big publishers are threatened by freebies and 0.99 deals.


message 35: by Corinne (last edited May 08, 2020 01:36PM) (new)

Corinne | 101 comments Mod
5/2/20
It's been weeks since I started this discussion, and I came to the decision that from now on I'll take baby steps to ease the invite restrictions because the group is growing and our members are not only creating good content, they've been participating in the polls with more than just votes. Change can't come overnight as only 30% of the members of the group have participated in either the poll or the discussion about the number of invites they want to receive. Besides many members of the group, have grown busier since the lock-down. But despite all this we're heading slowly toward an increase of options for those who create polls and want to invite members to vote in them.

The first step I took is modifying the group info. New members have to know that they shouldn't join unless they're okay with receiving around 1-3 invites a week. The homepage includes a link to participate in the poll about number of invites.

Please no "What should I read next" polls.
Joining means, every week you'll receive around 1-3 invitations to participate in polls. Let us know Do you want to be invited to new polls? How many in one week?


Every week I feature one of the polls in the group homepage, and send invitations to vote to all our members except the dozen of members that aren't interested in receiving polls. They joined the group when it was just starting and participated in the poll about number of invites, so for the most part their wishes will be respected, but there might be some occasional slips. Everybody else will receive invitations. For a couple of months more, only our moderators, Elisa, Kriss, and Sam can create and send invitations to vote in polls without restrictions.

Anyone else who creates new polls and wants to invite people from their list of friends can do it. If you want to invite members that aren't your friends, just be patient, and eventually your poll will reach almost every member of this group. You could also post a request in this thread and I'll do my best to help you send invites in a way that isn't time consuming for you and that doesn't result in a saturation of invites in the notifications of our members.

Thank you all for being part of this group.


message 36: by Pidge (new)

Pidge (arisjemma) | 2 comments I love polls so I’m good with whatever (:


message 37: by Kristi (new)

Kristi Jung | 5 comments I’m also good with any number of polls. I won’t respond to all of them, but I will participate in some. I apologize for the late comment.


message 38: by Tammie (new)

Tammie | 8 comments 5 weekly and I'll tru to make them
I've got chronic depression and other disabilities that really make it difficult to participate sometimes but I'll try my best too participate as much as possible in both polls and discussions when I'm able


message 39: by Bookswithdy (new)

Bookswithdy (dyantha) | 15 comments dont mind how many ! cant say I will always join , but most I will


message 40: by Precious ✨ (new)

Precious ✨ (anonymous-butnotquite) It doesn’t matter to me, as long as it’s not over 80 a week. I guess 10 daily is fair to me. I can’t say I’ll join each (especially since sometimes I don’t have enough information or experience to give an opinion) but it wouldn’t bother me. Also don’t want to think I’m poppin when it’s all just invites to a poll 😂😂😂


message 41: by Brenda Jewett (new)

Brenda Jewett | 1 comments I can probably do about 15 a week.


message 42: by Petra (new)

Petra Cross | 6 comments 5 a week.


message 43: by stephanie (new)

stephanie (disneygirl) 2 a day is good. Nothing over the top but something to look forward to.


message 44: by Müsli (new)

Müsli | 10 comments 3 to 5 a week.


message 45: by 3 Peters (new)

3 Peters | 1 comments If it's not the same poll *coughs* Which book should I pick *coughs* I'm fine with any number.


message 46: by Elisa G. (new)

Elisa G. | 26 comments Mod
Gwen, Peter & Mary wrote: "If it's not the same poll *coughs* Which book should I pick *coughs* I'm fine with any number."
I agree with you.


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