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message 1551: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments Today and for the following five days.

Praying that the idiot Boris and his cabinet of cretins don't do something that will stop us getting on the ferry to France on Sunday.


message 1552: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Does that mean Rig is fully recovered and back to being his old self again, Derek?


message 1553: by Derek (last edited Aug 03, 2020 04:54AM) (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments He's not fully recovered but he's fit enough to travel to France. He's still on antibiotics and will be for another four weeks, possibly longer.

The risk is that the infection may result in a permanently weakened bone and joint. He's still on light exercise only, no going up and down stairs and it's unlikely that he'll get off-lead exercise again.

We won't know much more until we get his next x-ray done, which won't be until late August/early September. We've already arranged that with our French vet but haven't set a date yet.

He's fine in himself but bored with just local short walks (as are we). He's also not impressed with having to sleep in his cage downstairs at night (it's a big cage) rather than in his dog bed in the bedroom, but I'm not risking him going down the stairs. He'd be OK going up, but he's not good at going down the stairs at all. More often than not going down is more like a semi-controlled fall hitting random steps on the way.

He'll be able to sleep in the bedroom in France though as it's only half a dozen steps up/down to the bedroom level, and they're tiled and much deeper so he normally just carefully walks up/down them.


message 1554: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Ohhh, bless him!!!

He's had a really rotten time of it, hasn't he? - the poor love! ... x x x

He definitely needs and deserves to be resting up in his Holiday Home - I hope the Weather stays kind to him and he continues to improve with every day ;o>


message 1555: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments Derek wrote: "He's not fully recovered but he's fit enough to travel to France. He's still on antibiotics and will be for another four weeks, possibly longer.

The risk is that the infection may result in a per..."


Ahh poor Dog, it's sad to see them less than at their best.

Our Labrador is definitely going blind, and i guess I shouldn't be surprised as I was told it was a near inevitable consequence of her Diabetes. Poor thing is going to the wrong spot when her toy is thrown or bowl put down.


message 1556: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Awww, no ;o<

Mind you, I've always been amazed at just how well so many little hairy woofers manage to adapt themselves to changes in their circumstances. Several of our previous furry friends developed Sight and Hearing issues with old age but they still had a fantastic quality of life right up until the very end of their long lives. I hope that this happens for your Lab as well ... x


message 1557: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments Well Collette, it's here. As I discovered today.

The Munchy Box is here in our local takeaway in Kerry, Ireland.

And only for 10 euro :0

It includes - "4 popcorn chicken, 4 onion rings, 4 chicken nuggets, 4 chicken wings, doner meat, naan bread, salad and garlic dip"

I stuck with the fish n chips.


message 1558: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments WTF is Popcorn Chicken anyway?

I've heard of Popcorn Lung, a fatal condition that allegedly comes from vaping.


message 1559: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments "4 popcorn chicken, 4 onion rings, 4 chicken nuggets, 4 chicken wings, doner meat, naan bread, salad and garlic dip" = 4 processed chunks of crap, 4 pieces of veg ruined by high fat batter, 4 lumps of processed shite, 4 bits of a chicken usually destined for pet food, some processed minced non-specific meat (probably cows' lips and other unpalatables, etc. Boak.

Pass us a chip?


message 1560: by Gordon (new)

Gordon (skiiltan) | 2940 comments Doner kebab is sheeps' lips, ears, eyelids, sphincters, etc. Don't you know anything?

Not to be confused with donor kebab. You really don't want to know what's in that.


message 1561: by theDuke (last edited Aug 05, 2020 01:49AM) (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Serial wrote: "WTF is Popcorn Chicken anyway?

I've heard of Popcorn Lung, a fatal condition that allegedly comes from vaping."


Speaking as a vaper, I have looked into this issue quite comprehensively, and from the reports on research on this issue....it remains unproven....and is largely dismissed by most health experts. Popcorn Lung (Bronchiolitis Obliterans) was first identified in the US factories manufacturing the popular snack food in 1992, when several employees working at a Minneapolis microwavable popcorn factory, were diagnosed with the condition for the first time. The main cause being an artificial food flavouring Diacetyl, a substitute for butter used in microwavable popcorn. Factory workers would breathe in the flavourings, hence the name. To date, there have been fewer than 100 cases of PL recorded......and none of them from vaping.

Diacetyl was used in some eliquids prior to the introduction of the EU Tobacco Products Directive (TPD) in 2016, when the additive was banned, but even before the ban, the quantity of Diacetyl used in eliquids was about 100 time less than one could find in a typical cigarette. One would be more likely to contract PL from smoking, but as far as i'm aware, there have been no recorded cases of PL with smoking either. All eliquids manufactured within the EU are now Diacetyl free anyway.

The one country that continues to claim such cases of PL, is (surprise surprise) the US, where there is little or no regulation in the manufacture of eliquids there. Political lobbying from tobacco companies, are doing everything they can to limit the increasing popularity of vaping, and they continue to perpetuate this myth, along with other conditions supposedly connected with vaping. As of yet...aside from a few isolated cases (mainly in the unregulated US again) of vaping related deaths, caused by some brands of eliquids containing too high levels of vitamin E (again banned in the EU), of those attribute to PL, have been disputable.

It's one of many myths surrounding vaping that somehow took hold, probably from anti-smoking and anti-vaping lobbyists and campaigners.

I've been vaping for 3 years now & never felt better. The nonsense that's going on in various countries to ban flavoured eliquid, all because the US still haven't regulated their vaping market there. So other developed nations are over reacting to one country's response to vaping deaths, a country that voted in the biggest idiot that country has ever had...Trump! Says it all about them really.......even with covid19...their death figures from that alone is just shocking. Even the EU is reconsidering changing the regulations of the sale of flavoured eliquids now. Fortunately...the UK has no intentions of doing so..and we leave that troublesome organization in a few months time!

And to think i voted to stay in 4 years ago as well! ;-)

The truth is.....vaping is still too new to know what the long term effects of vaping will have on users....and whilst there have been isolated cases of deaths supposedly linked with vaping....on the whole it is far far safer than smoking.

That's my belief and i'm sticking with it! :)

But anyway......getting back to the issue in hand......yeh...what the *BEEP!* is Popcorn Chicken??!!


message 1562: by theDuke (last edited Aug 04, 2020 11:03PM) (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Gordon wrote: "Doner kebab is sheeps' lips, ears, eyelids, sphincters, etc. Don't you know anything?

Not to be confused with donor kebab. You really don't want to know what's in that."


I'm proud to say that i've never had Kebab in my life, Doner or otherwise. How anybody could walk into a kebab shop, look at that greasy grey elephant leg rotating on the spindle inside..and think to themselves "Mmmmmm..i fancy a bit of that!" is beyond me! It looks revolting!

Mind you, that said......i do like battered Onion rings though! :)


message 1563: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments theDuke wrote: "Serial wrote: "WTF is Popcorn Chicken anyway?

I've heard of Popcorn Lung, a fatal condition that allegedly comes from vaping."

Speaking as a vaper, I have looked into this issue quite comprehensi..."


Good informative post, Duke.

My opinion is that inhaling anything but air into your lungs can't be good for them. But vaping seems to be a lot less harmful than smoking tobacco. It must be making some people a lot of money with all the coils and liquids vapers buy.

And for some people, smoking nothing doesn't seem to be an option.

My wife vapes, and is much healthier for it, after smoking for over 20 years. I always say why don't you just give up that too....but heh whatever..... people have to make their own choices.


message 1564: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments theDuke wrote: "Gordon wrote: "Doner kebab is sheeps' lips, ears, eyelids, sphincters, etc. Don't you know anything?

Not to be confused with donor kebab. You really don't want to know what's in that."

I'm proud ..."


I made beef Koftas last week. Very easy. Use good quality beef mince. It's mixed up with diced pepper, spring onions, chillis and spices. Marinade overnight then make into sausage shapes and fry. Very good in a pitta with salad, chilli sauce, and mint raita.


message 1565: by Sera69 (last edited Aug 05, 2020 12:58AM) (new)

Sera69 | 1922 comments "4 popcorn chicken, 4 onion rings, 4 chicken nuggets, 4 chicken wings, doner meat, naan bread, salad and garlic dip" = 4 processed chunks of heaven, 4 pieces of veg improved by high fat batter, 4 lumps of processed manna, 4 bits of a chicken saved from being wasted as pet food, some processed minced non-specific unbelievably delicious meat (probably cows' lips and other unpalatables) Meh! It's called sustainable eating!!

Yum!


message 1566: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments Sera69 wrote: ""4 popcorn chicken, 4 onion rings, 4 chicken nuggets, 4 chicken wings, doner meat, naan bread, salad and garlic dip" = 4 processed chunks of heaven, 4 pieces of veg improved by high fat batter, 4 l..."

Sera, I'm almost fancying it now :0


message 1567: by theDuke (last edited Aug 05, 2020 04:53AM) (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Serial wrote: "theDuke wrote: "Serial wrote: "WTF is Popcorn Chicken anyway?

I've heard of Popcorn Lung, a fatal condition that allegedly comes from vaping."

Speaking as a vaper, I have looked into this issue q..."


Human lungs are exposed to chemicals everyday Serial.....given the pollutants we as a species emit on a daily basis. To say nothing but air, wouldn't be realistic in this day in age. Just driving a car (or walking down a busy street), one would breathe in a multitude of toxins...so the i think the lungs are very able coping with that.

And given that the average cigarette contains around 7000 chemicals....with at least 100 of them toxic to human health....it's amazing one can smoke for 40 years or more, before suffering ill health as result. Just think how humans had to cope with pollution produced during the industrial age of Victorian period, when the average life span of a working class person, was probably half of what it is today, especially those whom lived in smog riddled cities. I've read that today, some British cities like London are now just as polluted as they were 150 years ago, how long before convalescence hospitals spring up again? But for now...us humans seem to be coping with it reasonably well. I recall that when my mother was 11 years old in 1953, she suffered badly from the smog in London, and was sent to the country to convalesce. She's 78 now, and still going strong! :)

As with most vapers.....i would never claim to say vaping was 100% safe.....the going figure by 'health experts' seems to be 95% safer than smoking...but since one is no longer inhaling Arsenic, Formaldehyde, Benzene, Vinyl chloride, Cadmium, Ammonia, Carbon Monoxide (when combusted), heavy metals, (some radioactive!), Hydrogen cyanide, Lead, and a host of other toxins, vaping has got to be a heck of lot safer than smoking!

There maybe some toxins with vaping...but compared to cigarettes...i know what i'm sticking with!

Some ex smokers do give up vaping, ask Grizzly, he did. I guess it's down to the individual Serial.....i gave up smoking, partly for my health, partly to save money, as i couldn't sustain the ridiculous cost of it, and partly because i had tried everything else at one point or another and failed. I tried the gum, the patches, inhalers, cold turkey (several times), even the GP prescription drugs that nearly sent me doolally! The only thing i hadn't tried was hypnosis...and i didn't bother with that cos it doesn't work on me..i'm not that susceptible to it's effects.....apparently!

So after several years turning my nose up at this new fangled technology, i went into a vape shop, picked a mod and some flavours..and gave it try. It took me less than two weeks to quit the fags! :) So, as far as i'm concerned, i'm quite happy to see out my life as a vaper, i enjoy it, i like the flavours (far nicer than burnt tobacco leaves anyway!), and it's saving me a shed load of money now, than when i was a smoker. I reckon i only spend about £300 years on coils and eliquids, having now built up a stash to last me at least 5 years.

With regards to vaping companies....yes some have grown very wealthy selling the kit, juices coils and other vaping related paraphernalia....a lot of them of being Chinese companies, as after all that's where it all began.....but many juice companies are actually small businesses...that just about get by. And since there's little or no duties applied to eliquid brands currently bar VAT, compared to nigh on 90% tax on tobacco....i'll happily support a vaping company any day than tobacco giants and the blerdy HM Treasury & Excise! :)


message 1568: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 1370 comments .i'll happily support a vaping company any day than tobacco giants and the blerdy HM Treasury & Excise! :)

How long before the tobacco giants absorb the vaping companies and the chancellor finds a way to profit from vapers? (not that I'm growing cynical or anything) ;o)


message 1569: by theDuke (last edited Aug 05, 2020 04:59AM) (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Isabella wrote: ".i'll happily support a vaping company any day than tobacco giants and the blerdy HM Treasury & Excise! :)

How long before the tobacco giants absorb the vaping companies and the chancellor finds ..."


There are now far too many vaping companies in the world for tobacco giants to 'absorb' them now...and besides some of these companies like Philip Morris International for eg..have in recent years been developing a new product at great cost to challenge vaping 'threat' called Heat Not Burn (HNB), which is essentially a half cigarette coated in Propylene Glycol (PG - one of the oils used in eliquids), of which is mounted in a electrical receptacle and is heated not combusted. The vaping community views this new product with considerable suspicion, as one is still inhaling toxins present in the cigarette. Philip Morris have invested 100s of millions developing this..so i doubt they'll try to buy up the huge Chinese companies manufacturing vaping products. Furthermore...a white paper was produced by the British government in 2018, outlying their preliminary plans to gradually bring about an end to the sale of all tobacco products in the UK, possibly by 2030. Unlike the US, where Tobacco companies have considerable political influence within the government there, and donate huge amounts of money to the local to local authorities 'in return for special favours', to the point of essentially corrupting the political processes in that country, the UK is less effected in that way. There are tobacco lobbyists with in the corridors of power of the British government of course, but they aren't anywhere near as powerful as can be found in the US.

As for future taxation on vaping products....well it'll happen of course.....introduce something new and better, nice and cheap to entice people with, wait until enough folks are hooked to it, then ramp up up the taxes...yeh.....tell me something i don't know! Like that hasn't happened a million times before for one thing or another, already! Cigarettes used to be dirt cheap once. i recall that my first packet of B&H silver cost me £1.50 when i started smoking back in 1989. I was paying nearly £9 a packet when i finally quit 3 years ago! And that wasn't just down to inflation...there are now 3 different taxes on tobacco....equating to approximately 90% of a cost of a packet of fags now being just tax. But for now, the UK government has pledged to keep it free of tax bar VAT, to help more people quit the stinkies. So, of course, come closer to the day when tobacco will be banned outright, the government will no doubt turn on us vapers, probably sooner....it's the natural order of things isn't it?!

Maybe by then, i'll have amassed a vast reservoir of ejuice for my own 'stash' to last me decades...so i won't give a monkeys!

And if i haven't succeeded in achieving that, then i could start making my own juice....as is legally possible in this country. I use about 5mls of eliquid a day. I could buy the flavour concentrate, the oils and liquid nicotine, enough to make a litre of my favourite flavour for about £30...enough to last me around 200 days!

There are ways around such minor quibbles Isabella..have no fear lassie! :)


message 1570: by Lez (new)

Lez | 7490 comments ...or you could just stop inhaling anything? ;-)


message 1571: by theDuke (last edited Aug 05, 2020 05:37AM) (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Lez wrote: "...or you could just stop inhaling anything? ;-)"

Are you suggesting i should asphyxiate myself Lez??!! Heavens above!


message 1572: by Brass Neck (last edited Aug 05, 2020 06:34AM) (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments Gordon wrote: "Doner kebab is sheeps' lips, ears, eyelids, sphincters, etc. Don't you know anything?

Not to be confused with donor kebab. You really don't want to know what's in that."


Didn't the late Jade Goodey refer in some ghastly 'reality' TV show (Big Bro?) to her lady parts thus; "Oooh, me kebab's showin'"? You definitely don't want to know what's been in THAT.


message 1573: by Brass Neck (last edited Aug 05, 2020 06:24AM) (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments theDuke wrote: "Gordon wrote: "Doner kebab is sheeps' lips, ears, eyelids, sphincters, etc. Don't you know anything?

Not to be confused with donor kebab. You really don't want to know what's in that."

I'm proud ..."


"How anybody could walk into a kebab shop, look at that greasy grey elephant leg rotating on the spindle inside..and think to themselves "Mmmmmm..i fancy a bit of that!"" - I think it helps if you've consumed a baker's dozen pints of Stella with a few shots before entering the premises. Their primary purpose is to ensure you have something chunky to vomit 30 minutes later in the taxi.


message 1574: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments theDuke wrote: "Isabella wrote: ".i'll happily support a vaping company any day than tobacco giants and the blerdy HM Treasury & Excise! :)

How long before the tobacco giants absorb the vaping companies and the ..."


"i recall that my first packet of B&H silver cost me £1.50 when i started smoking back in 1989. I was paying nearly £9 a packet when i finally quit 3 years ago!" - I recall buying packets of 10 B&H gold from vending machines OUTSIDE a row of shops that were closed for the evening for the princely sum of 10p AND you got a 1/2p back inside the cellaphane (must've been about mid 70s). I was paying £1 a packet when I quit in the April as I took my uni finals in May 39 years ago! My method for quitting was just willpower and spending the fiver a week on an LP. That addiction is still with me, if only the sums and quantities were as small. I sometimes think the missus'd rather I did heroin!


message 1575: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments Vapers are already taxed - there's VAT on almost everything.


message 1576: by Val (last edited Aug 05, 2020 06:40AM) (new)

Val H. | 22143 comments theDuke wrote: "And if i haven't succeeded in achieving that, then i could start making my own juice....as is legally possible in this country. I use about 5mls of eliquid a day. I could buy the flavour concentrate, the oils and liquid nicotine, enough to make a litre of my favourite flavour for about £30...enough to last me around 200 days!..."

I had a feeling vaping was banned in Australia, which seemed strange, so I looked it up and it seems that vaping is legal but that nicotine additives are banned:

"Under Australian poison regulations, the possession and use of nicotine for vaping is effectively banned. Under Federal regulation, medicines and poisons are classified into schedules, which determine how they are regulated. Nicotine is classified as a Schedule 7 ’dangerous poison’. As such it is illegal to buy, possess or use nicotine for vaping without a prescription from a doctor. However, nicotine in tobacco and nicotine replacement products are exempt and freely available.

There are three main ways of legally acquiring nicotine e-liquid in Australia. All three require a prescription from a doctor.

* A smoker can import three months’ worth of personal supply of nicotine from overseas under the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) Personal Importation Scheme.

* An approved Australian pharmacy can prepare nicotine liquid for individual patients. This service is currently only available through Nicopharm.

* By way of a nicotine-containing product approved by the TGA. There are presently no nicotine-containing e-cigarettes approved. The approval process is expensive and time-consuming and not practical for most vape manufacturers.

Few vapers use these methods, however, and although it is legal, few Australian doctors will prescribe nicotine due to the lack of official endorsement and knowledge about vaping.

Unfortunately, most users feel compelled to either import nicotine illegally without a prescription or purchase it from the unregulated black market."

Each State has its own regulations and here in Victoria it's as follows:

Sale : The sale of vaporisers with nicotine is banned, however, may be sold without nicotine.

Advertising and Promotions : Retailers are allowed limited internal display of vaping items, restricted to an area of four metres squared. No promotions are allowed for e-cigarettes in Victoria.

Smoke-Free Areas : Vaping is not allowed in smoke-free areas.

In Car with Minors : Banned with children under 16 in the car.

Sampling of E-Liquid in Store : Banned.

Penalty for Possession of Nicotine : $15,546.

So there!


message 1577: by Lez (last edited Aug 10, 2020 03:17AM) (new)

Lez | 7490 comments I stopped on my day off. I emptied the pack I'd got into the sink and poured water over them. I was the last of 3 of us at work to stop and we all went out for a meal to celebrate. I've never missed smoking though, strangely, after over 35 years I still occasionally dream of it..


message 1578: by Brass Neck (new)

Brass Neck | 3979 comments Vaping's all fun and games until someone gets hurt;
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...


message 1579: by Gordon (last edited Aug 05, 2020 12:45PM) (new)

Gordon (skiiltan) | 2940 comments Lez wrote: "I stopped on my day off. I emptied the pack I'd got into the sink and poured water over them. I was the last of 3 of us at work to stop and we all went out for a meal to celebrate. I've never missed..."

I gave up after a respiratory infection in 1986, during which I'd been unable to smoke because it made me cough so much. I'd just started a job in a lab on the top floor of a building with a very dodgy lift and had already been struggling with the stairs. The combination of having been ill and contemplating the return to the ascent of the stairs made me decide it wasn't worth resuming the habit. I'd guess I've smoked about 50 cigarillos in the intervening 34 years, and the last of those was about 8 years ago.

Anyway, a few weeks after I'd quit a colleague let me have an old hi-fi amplifier for a fiver as he was replacing it. With the money I'd saved by not smoking I was able to buy a new turntable & speakers to go with it. This was the first album I played on my new stereo system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_cQB...


message 1580: by Post Soviet (new)

Post Soviet (postsoviet) | 551 comments Already tried to quit smoking when was I sixteen, succeeded... in 2000, 23 years later.
Booze in 1995.
Well, sick anyway. '0)


message 1581: by Collette (last edited Aug 06, 2020 03:44AM) (new)

Collette | 6187 comments Serial wrote: "Well Collette, it's here. As I discovered today.

The Munchy Box is here in our local takeaway in Kerry, Ireland.

And only for 10 euro :0

It includes - "4 popcorn chicken, 4 onion rings, 4 chicke..."


Best munchy box here IMO is New Kismet's. Donner meat, chicken pakora, mushroom pakora, veg pakora, salad, chips, nan and 2 tubs of sauce (which I never use). And no chicken chaat, onion rings or mozzarella sticks etc shoved in to bulk it up.

While I remember, I won my PayPal case, and don't have to return that foam pad. Woo hoo etc...


message 1582: by Derek (new)

Derek W | 1365 comments Having my eyes tested (no I didn't drive to Barnard Castle), just Monmouth.

I (well Specsavers) now have 3D images of the inside of my eyeballs. Apparently I have very good eyeballs for a man of my age, shame about the rest of me.


message 1583: by theDuke (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Brass Neck wrote: "theDuke wrote: "Gordon wrote: "Doner kebab is sheeps' lips, ears, eyelids, sphincters, etc. Don't you know anything?

Not to be confused with donor kebab. You really don't want to know what's in th..."


Lol! Aye..i think i did quite a bit of that in me yoof.....but still managed to avoid the dreaded Kebab!


message 1584: by theDuke (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Brass Neck wrote: "Vapers are already taxed - there's VAT on almost everything."

Yes i know...i said that! :) Nearly everything has VAT on it..unless it's certain feminine hygiene products, baby products like milk substite..and some health and safety items......and er....aren't cakes free of VAT too....not sure?


message 1585: by theDuke (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Val wrote: "theDuke wrote: "And if i haven't succeeded in achieving that, then i could start making my own juice....as is legally possible in this country. I use about 5mls of eliquid a day. I could buy the fl..."

Heya Val, yes i am aware of the political situation there regarding vaping...and the logic of your government on this one issue defies comprehension! According to a few Australian members of a vaping forum I'm a member of....they've explained the difficulties of obtaining nicotine there.....the whole situation there is ridiculous. You can still by tobacco there which has nicotine naturally present, but your government is doing everything it can to prevent folks from finding a safer alternative to smoking that works..whereas the success rate of those whom quite using other methods, such as gum, patches, inhalers etc...is lower than perhaps with vaping.

As far as I'm able to ascertain....your current administration is fronted by a so called liberalist - Scott Morrison who is vehemently opposed to both smoking and vaping, refuse to listen to the scientific evidence, as is clearly demonstrated by this inaccurately written except from your post -

"A smoker can import three months’ worth of personal supply of nicotine from overseas under the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) Personal Importation Scheme."

Vaping isn't smoking...that's the whole point of vaping!


message 1586: by theDuke (last edited Aug 07, 2020 12:01AM) (new)

theDuke | 6491 comments Brass Neck wrote: "Vaping's all fun and games until someone gets hurt;
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=..."


Those are from people who use unregulated devices (i.e. mechanical devices without a safety chip built in). As one can build one's own coils from various types of wire metal (i have done this myself)...some people build them beyond the maximum rating supported by the lithium ion batteries, causing them to become over stressed and over heat..resulting said batteries to explode. Whilst many 'mods' (the battery pack that the tanks fit on) are regulated these days...the earlier ones were just mechanical. If users didn't take the time to understand the basic principle of Ohm's law before embarking on building a coil in those early tanks....then there was always a risk of these devices exploding. Even those devices that were correctly built within the tolerances of the battery's maximum amp loading, it was still possible to over fire them, with the unprotected fire button being kept depressed for too long. You could simply put the mod in your trouser pocket, sit down on a seat and the fire button would be unintentionally switched on...and if not turned off soon enough, they could explode.

Fortunately, technology has moved on considerably since those first few years, and most modern readily available commercially produced mods today, are regulated by a chip. My devices has safety features built in to prevent over firing (shuts down at 10 seconds of firing), anti overloading, even a stop switch if the battery has been inserted the wrong way in. They are essentially a lot safer these days, but vapers still need to have a basic understanding of amp loading when using such devices.


message 1587: by Collette (last edited Aug 06, 2020 11:45PM) (new)

Collette | 6187 comments Post Soviet wrote: "Already tried to quit smoking when was I sixteen, succeeded... in 2000, 23 years later.
Booze in 1995.
Well, sick anyway. '0)"



I quit smoking Summer 2001. Got my first tattoo and had my last ciggie the same day. Nice not smelling like an ashtray. 😁

Today I shall be waiting on some stuff from Zon, including a gorgeous red leather biker jacket D's treating me to. Just hope I can get my wee fat self into it ha ha.


message 1588: by Post Soviet (new)

Post Soviet (postsoviet) | 551 comments On holidays now.
So... Ikea today. 2h drive to buy some curtains and god knows what else (well hopefully wife knows). And 2h back. Ouches.
Tomorrow, ordered B&B by the ocean nearby lovely Connemara, co Galway. To visit gorgeous Kylemore Abbey at last.


message 1589: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments Collette wrote: "Serial wrote: "Well Collette, it's here. As I discovered today.

The Munchy Box is here in our local takeaway in Kerry, Ireland.

And only for 10 euro :0

It includes - "4 popcorn chicken, 4 onion ..."


Free foam pad, C. You're living the high life now. Every time you sooth your erse with that calming foam the satisfaction will be immense,


message 1590: by Serial (new)

Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments Post Soviet wrote: "On holidays now.
So... Ikea today. 2h drive to buy some curtains and god knows what else (well hopefully wife knows). And 2h back. Ouches.
Tomorrow, ordered B&B by the ocean nearby lovely Connemara..."


Sounds great, but not the Ikea bit. People in ireland love Ikea, I'm always amazed at people from all over going there. It's the equivalent of going to Knock for the new irish generation :0

Connemara is just stunning. I was there over 20 years ago, hitchiked from Westport and on around Letterfrack with someone delivering wholefoods to the youth hostel there.


message 1591: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Collette wrote: "While I remember, I won my PayPal case, and don't have to return that foam pad. Woo hoo etc..."

I'm not sure if I'm quite understanding this right, Collette? ;o>

Are you saying you ordered some Furniture and they only just sent you a Foam Seat Pad instead?! ... and are you and D going to be stuck with playing Musical Chairs with it? - or have you now also got the rest of the Furniture to go with it from elsewhere?


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Collette | 6187 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "I'm not sure if I'm quite understanding this right, Collette? ;o>

Are you saying y..."



Hey Suzy. Yep. I ordered a red garden chair and got sent a folding foam seat pad (which you can buy on eBay for £2, although why anybody would want to...). Might stop you getting piles if you us it on an outside step or something.

And you should see the inflatable hot tub we received a couple of days ago... I don't know WHAT the hell the seller sent me but a hot tub it ain't, so as one case was closed on Paypal another one got opened. D's barred from ordering anything now unless he runs it by me first ha ha. 🤣


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suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Ohhh Squirrels!!! ... is it more of an extra deep Paddling Pool?!! - LOL!!! ;o>


message 1594: by Val (new)

Val H. | 22143 comments Collette wrote: "I ordered a red garden chair and got sent a folding foam seat pad (which you can buy on eBay for £2, although why anybody would want to...). Might stop you getting piles if you us it on an outside step or something...."

If you're feeling really kind-hearted, Collette, you could let some of the folk on the naughty step use it.


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Collette | 6187 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "Ohhh Squirrels!!! ... is it more of an extra deep Paddling Pool?!! - LOL!!! ;o>"

Not even that, Suzy. It's a pink foam thing similar to what you'd use in water aerobics, but a lot shorter. And there's a bit of square black nylon with net on it. You could say we've been conned yet again. How these companies aren't banned from Facebook, PayPal etc I don't know...


message 1596: by Collette (new)

Collette | 6187 comments Val wrote: "Collette wrote: "I ordered a red garden chair and got sent a folding foam seat pad (which you can buy on eBay for £2, although why anybody would want to...). Might stop you getting piles if you us ..."

No luxuries allowed there, Val. 😊


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Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments Collette wrote: "suzysunshine7 wrote: "Ohhh Squirrels!!! ... is it more of an extra deep Paddling Pool?!! - LOL!!! ;o>"

Not even that, Suzy. It's a pink foam thing similar to what you'd use in water aerobics, but ..."


Sounds like some kind of inflatable Bidet.

You might want to keep it in case toilet roll goes endangered again.


message 1598: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments ! ! !

... Awww, poor D! ;o<

Was his next purchase going to be a High Diving Board?

He'll probably be sent a Stepladder the way his luck is going at the moment!!! ;oO


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Serial Sock Trumpet (serialsocktrumpet) | 1998 comments suzysunshine7 wrote: "! ! !

... Awww, poor D! ;o<

Was his next purchase going to be a High Diving Board?

He'll probably be sent a Stepladder the way his luck is going at the moment!!! ;oO"


Poor D, indeed, can you imagine how much he spends on earplugs. :/


message 1600: by suzysunshine7 (new)

suzysunshine7 | 16038 comments Collette is the one sorting it all out with PayPal for him ...

D really did strike gold when he met our Collette ;o>


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