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message 1: by Lining (new)

Lining (fleshpetal) After hearing about my friend explaining (quite matter-of-factly) to me that marijuana is 1) not harmful, 2) people are bought by government propaganda about so that they can make money off of anti-drug campaigns, 3) our brain is actually built to receive the chemicals that marijuana has favorably and 4) basically, you can try it in high school and it's okay. o.o

What do you guys think? :P


message 2: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
It should be legal. The revenue from the taxes could help the economy.


message 3: by Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (last edited Sep 18, 2009 03:12PM) (new)

Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments What I don't understand is why cigarettes and alcohol are legal (both of which are addictive and can make people do really stupid things) but marijuana is illegal.


message 4: by Emily (new)

Emily (emilyamazingxx) | 165 comments "I don't understand is why cigarettes and alcohol are illegal"

you mean legal.


message 5: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
The hemp industry would have put so many people out of business, it was a political move.


message 6: by Jayda (new)

Jayda It should be legalized.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments Emily wrote: ""I don't understand is why cigarettes and alcohol are illegal"

you mean legal."


My bad. I just fixed it. Thanks. :D


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments Lauren wrote: "The hemp industry would have put so many people out of business, it was a political move. "

What do you mean? I'm sorry. I don't know too much about the issue. I'm really interested in finding out more about it. Do you guys have any articles you could suggest?


message 9: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)


message 10: by David (new)

David (primemover) It should be legalized and taxed. Though, it is harmful, inhaling smoke, no matter the content, is harmful. And the drug itself is harmful. However many drugs do not cause motivation for violence, but merely a release in Endorphins. I do not believe that the goverment is going working together to enslave us all, because they already have enough of us ensared. We have the freedom to do what we want(to a degree), but people CHOOSE to support the system. The goverment is not the puppetmasters, but the media and industry. Who funds the campaigns? For the first time in several decades, Obama won without major campaign contributions from large organizations. However, who ENDORSED Obama, thereby ensuring him small amounts in large quantitys from the massess. BTW, I support Obama, usually.


message 11: by David (last edited Sep 18, 2009 03:58PM) (new)

David (primemover) Interesting, Tobacco's up there with the bad boys, yet Cannabis is at the bottom...
Copy and paste:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rat...


message 12: by Lining (new)

Lining (fleshpetal) Also, the guy said that it is highly unlikely that you will develop lung cancer, since most people who do have smoked like 20 cigarettes a day for 20 years, and marijuana is not nearly that addictive.. or so he says. 0.o

Yay for newbieness! :D


message 13: by David (new)

David (primemover) It's still not smart to inhale smoke.


message 14: by ♥ Rachel♥ (new)

♥ Rachel♥   (i_got_a_jar_of_dirt) | 2196 comments Yeah, marijuana smokers smoke less that nicotine addicts. (Well, I guess it depends on the person.)

On the other hand, though, marijuana is slightly addictive, so when the treatment's over, the person might still want marijuana, and then the whole drug addict horror story might happen.

So I'm neutral with this topic.


message 15: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
"On the other hand, though, marijuana is slightly addictive, so when the treatment's over, the person might still want marijuana, and then the whole drug addict horror story might happen."

There's only a horror story as much as people who drink 5 cups of coffee a day for years and stop have a horror story.


message 16: by ♥ Rachel♥ (new)

♥ Rachel♥   (i_got_a_jar_of_dirt) | 2196 comments But marijuana costs more than coffee (I think...), so that would be worse for their bank account....

But, again, I'm neutral....


message 17: by Lining (new)

Lining (fleshpetal) $140 an ounce. That's what he said. 0_0


message 18: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
If it was legal, there would be price regulations.


message 19: by ♥ Rachel♥ (new)

♥ Rachel♥   (i_got_a_jar_of_dirt) | 2196 comments True that....


message 20: by David (new)

David (primemover) Also, if it was legal, then we wouldn't have gang warfare centered around drugs. And the terrorists in Afghanistan would have trouble being funded.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments Lauren wrote: "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis...

Go down to History. "


Thanks for the link, but there was nothing saying "History", but the section on the legality of it was really helpful. :)


message 22: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis...

You have to go under the drug cannabis article.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments Thanks. :)


message 24: by ♥ Rachel♥ (last edited Sep 19, 2009 04:06PM) (new)

♥ Rachel♥   (i_got_a_jar_of_dirt) | 2196 comments Mukesh wrote: "Also, if it was legal, then we wouldn't have gang warfare centered around drugs."

Yes we would...I doubt most of it is about marijuana, it's probably more about cocaine and/or opium....


message 25: by David (new)

David (primemover) Not in Mexico.


message 26: by ♥ Rachel♥ (new)

♥ Rachel♥   (i_got_a_jar_of_dirt) | 2196 comments (I don't know much about drug wars at all....)

And you're Mexican?


message 27: by David (new)

David (primemover) No. I watch the news however.


message 28: by David (new)

David (primemover) People say "Marijuana is addictive, it's bad for your health and the health of people around you, it just makes you lay around all day or do violent things, it gives you courage to do things you normally wouldn't do, it made a come-back in the 60's, and people do it at partys." The same could be said about good music.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

it dont always kill you. i mean i have never did it. but my whole family are old hippies. and they aint addictived. you can stop if you truly want to.


message 30: by David (new)

David (primemover) I'm pretty sure that it's on a case by case basis. Like alchohol and nicotine.


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

point taken.


message 32: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
I don't think it's even possible to OD on it.


message 33: by David (new)

David (primemover) It's a drug, it's possible to OD on it.


message 34: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
Not always. There is an OD limit, but that limit I believe is out of human ability to reach.


message 35: by David (new)

David (primemover) You really think that? People die on Marijuana. It's really a stupid thing to do, it's a poison, just like alchohol and caffeine, but you also damage your lungs by inhaling it.


message 36: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
Citations. If it's laced with other crap, then yeah, possible, but pure stuff?

It's actually a lot less damaging than alchohol or cigarettes. There's a nifty graph on the marijuana drug page on Wiki.


message 37: by David (new)

David (primemover) Yeah, I saw that. It's very true that it's LESS bad, and I fully support legalizing it, but I would never do it.


message 38: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
Why?


message 39: by David (new)

David (primemover) The health effects.



message 40: by Marley (new)

Marley (Marleyme95) | 427 comments You can't overdose on it, it would take way too much...

But I agree with Mukesh, I don't think I would ever do it.


message 41: by ♥ Rachel♥ (new)

♥ Rachel♥   (i_got_a_jar_of_dirt) | 2196 comments Nor would I...but I don't see the problem with it, especially if cigarettes are kept legal....


message 42: by David (new)

David (primemover) Yeah. Alchohol is horrible for everyone concerned, but it's legal.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments I wouldn't use it either. Or alcohol. Or cigarettes. They just don't appeal to me. :P

I'm not fully decided about whether it should be legal or not, but I'm leaning towards it being made legal.


message 44: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
The only reason I would never use any sort of drugs is the control issue. I never want to depend on something else for my happiness. If it ever gets to the point where I need drugs to be happy, I wouldn't feel my life would be worth living. If I can't make myself happy, there's no point.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments That's a big part of it. The other part is the fact that I can't even stand drowsy cold medicine and Benedryl.


message 46: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
I'm not the type to pop a whole box of pills if I sneeze, I try to do without meds as long as I can stand it.


message 47: by David (new)

David (primemover) I'm not that kind of person at all. If I get a headache, I take ibuprofen, no questions asked. If I get allergies, I pop a pill for that.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 234 comments Lauren wrote: "I'm not the type to pop a whole box of pills if I sneeze, I try to do without meds as long as I can stand it. "

My mom thinks I'm nuts for that!


message 49: by David (new)

David (primemover) Nuts for sneezing?


message 50: by Lauren, radical atheist...beware! (new)

Lauren (djinni) | 2702 comments Mod
Nuts for not taking something for every little thing.

If I get a headache, I just wait it out. Your body is supposed to take care of itself, it can manage.


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