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The Other People by CJ Tudor
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Not sure I trust Gabe, since he's repeatedly said he thinks he's being punished for something and that what happened to him was "karma". He's hiding something from us.
I have no idea what's going on with the kids. How many are there? Is the comatose girl Izzy? Is Alice Izzy? Is the girl in the mirror Izzy? And what's with the sand and pebbles?

I'm interested to find about about the pebble thing.
My hopes are that the plot is not easy to predict and/or too simplistic, and not filled with "fluff"/drawn out.



I'm not sure what the waitress, Katie's, importance is yet, but she either knows something, or doesn't realize she's connected somehow. She knows "the Other People"...not sure if this is a secret group/cult? Is this the reason her dad was murdered?
I'm not understanding yet the deal with the mirrors and why Alice passes out whenever she sees one or whenever she sees something in the mirror. I did notice in one of the flashback scenes (not sure what to call those, but there are the sections in italics), the little girl has sand so there's some sort of connection there.
Also, I don't know what it is but I do NOT trust Samaritan, there is something so shady about him. He didn't want Gabe to go to the police??? Why, and how did he find the car?
Is Alice Gabe's daughter? Fran mentions she's not her mom so I'm assuming Alice really isn't dead and Gabe has been right the past few years, but who was the little girl that was killed in his home?
So far, absolutely loving this book and having trouble putting it down!

My theory is that Alice is Izzy or Izzy and the girl on live support is somehow related to what happened to Izzy. I am not sure how but I feel like she has some sort of power to travel (her non physical body) and either communicate something to Izzy (Alice). I also think the Father of Jenny is hiding something because he identified the bodies and yet Gab saw his daughter in that car. I also think Fran was involved in the kidnap of Izzy and changed her mind last minute and killed the men that murder Jenny. That's why she's running away, I'm sure there were more than two people involved in the kidnapping and killing of Jenny. The waitress story is the one that I have no guesses. I literally have no clue how she can know what the other people are. Maybe it had something to do with her father but I am not sure.
Overall, I'm loving this book. I can't wait to see how everything comes together.


• I like that Gabe is an unreliable narrator, because it could go either way with him. Either he is driven mad by grief or on to something.
• Who is the man chasing Alice and Fran & how long has that been going on? Sooo many questions surrounding that.
• Katie clearly knew what “the other people” are and lied to Gabe about it, possibly to protect him? She seems like she actively avoids him for reasons unknown so far.




I don't have any theories yet, but I do think that Gabe might be an unreliable character. I think Izzy and Alice are somehow connected (I hope they're not the same person cause that would be too easy!). I think there is a speculative element in the story which I don't usually like in mysteries but hope it will work out in this one. And I think Katie might have the answers!

Like a lot of people have said, I hope Alice isn’t Izzy. This is my first C.J. Tudor but I have faith she’s not going to do me like that.
So far, my only outlandish theory is that the Samaritan is actually a split personality/figment/something for Gabe (thinking along the lines of Tyler Durden). It’s claimed that he sleeps so little and has been for such a long time that it seems impossible that his narration is reliable.


But I do have some theories - Izzy is connected to Alice and Alice can communicate with the girl in the coma through the mirrors (who might be izzy??) Fran was involved with the kidnappings and I reckon it was her that killed the guy in the back of the car and I think "The Other People" are the ones that Alice sees in mirrors and maybe Izzy had that same connection??????



I do wonder who the samaritan is. How did they find eachother? I just saw someone said he could be made up and I love that idea. That could be possible since Gabe is constantly searching for Izzy.
Also curious about Katie and how she knows The Other People. I also wanna know what happened to her father. Who was her father? So many thoughts and questions.

I know at some point these characters storylines are going to connect in a deeper way, and I keep trying to figure out how that is going to be. Who is the murderer? Who is the man in the car? I have multiple theories, but I haven’t settled on one yet.
The only theory I have that I’m pretty comfortable with so far is that I think Fran has replaced a loved on with Gabe’s daughter because she couldn’t handle their death.
I’m loving this book so far! Great pick!
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I'm mostly interested in Alice's and the Samaritan's story because both of these characters have kind of a creepy vibe.
I don't think Alice is Izzy, but I had the thought that maybe she was the sleeping girl in the hospital (?) room and Fran was actually Mariam, who maybe decided to save her from whoever was holding her captive.
Anyways, I'm excited to see where the story is going and how everyone's background stories are going to be explained!
okay I finally finished chapter 14. CEO of being the last person to read her own book club book.
I was NOT expecting the paranormal vibes! I don't think it is paranormal, but it's more ominous than expected.
I figured right away that Fran wasn't Alice's mom because I kind of just assumed Alice was Izzy from the jump. can't wait to see if that's true.
My theory at this point is that Fran had a daughter who died (maybe her husband or boyfriend or someone killed her...or I suppose Fran herself) and somehow she swapped children? Like stole Izzy and left the real Alice behind (but probably unrecognizable so she was ID'd as Izzy).
I'm trying to figure out Gabe's storyline. This mysterious past, unless I missed some reveal. Maybe he was having an affair or had another family?
"The Other People" I dunno, must be some secret society or cult, right?
Gonna try finishing this in 24 hours, wish me luck.
I was NOT expecting the paranormal vibes! I don't think it is paranormal, but it's more ominous than expected.
I figured right away that Fran wasn't Alice's mom because I kind of just assumed Alice was Izzy from the jump. can't wait to see if that's true.
My theory at this point is that Fran had a daughter who died (maybe her husband or boyfriend or someone killed her...or I suppose Fran herself) and somehow she swapped children? Like stole Izzy and left the real Alice behind (but probably unrecognizable so she was ID'd as Izzy).
I'm trying to figure out Gabe's storyline. This mysterious past, unless I missed some reveal. Maybe he was having an affair or had another family?
"The Other People" I dunno, must be some secret society or cult, right?
Gonna try finishing this in 24 hours, wish me luck.

I think I would have benefitted from physically reading it because it takes me some time to remember who's who and what back story applies to who. I don't think this is the fault of the main Narrator (because his voice is gorgeous) I just think that the characters are only distinct when you're reading the scene they're in, and aren't sticking in my brain for how they differ from one another.
I definitely am enjoying the feeling this book is giving me although I don't get why some people are calling it horror.
If anything I'm expecting that Fran had a full psychotic break after accidentally killing her daughter and family, managed to steal another girl who is now suffering from a shared psychosis and The Other people turn out to be the attendants caring for them.
If this turns into Inception where it was all a dream I'm gonna be mad.



I'm definitely intrigued by most of the characters, specially The Samaritan, even though I have the impression he's not gonna play a big part in the story and not much is gonna be revealed about his character.

My theory from the start was that Alice was Izzy .... I also thought for a while that maybe Fran was Jenny and Gabe is actually a sociopath hunting down his escaped family but Jenny’s death has somewhat been confirmed so I might have to let that go....
Second theory is that the abduction of his daughter and death of wife is a vigilante act performed by “the other people” (because that’s what they do???) because he’s the one that killed Katie’s dad.... idk???
Really loving the pacing !!! And that each character leaves me wanting to know more with every chapter... really excited to find out what happens next !!!

Wow, I had so many theories, but didn't think of this one. Nice one!
I did guess from early on that Alice = Izzy, but everything else is still a mystery to me. Like Lala, I also didn't expect to get paranormal vibe. The first time the pebble made an appearance, my heart did a minor jolt.
The first 14 chapters were so fast to get through. I'm sure the next 14 will be the same.

I agree about Gabe’s chapters are boring. The only one that I’m enjoying are Alice’s.
Who’s the girl in the mirror? That’s creepy as heck. I’ve always been scared of Bloody Mary growing up so that hits one of my fears.
Theory 1: dead man in trunk is Katie and Lous father.
Sandman is the Samaritan and part of the Other People.
Theory 2: Lizzy is the girl in the mirror, and Alice’s mother is a part of The Other People. Also the ones tracking them down.
Theory 3: Gabe is an unreliable narrator and he killed daughter, wife and the man in the trunk.

The biggest mystery do far for me is where in the world are Gabe and Fran getting money to fund their unusual livestyles. Also how can someone just casually get several credit cards with fake names?
Ok, crazy theories incoming: The comatose girl is Izzy. Girl in the mirror is also Izzy. Alice either is Izzy (I'm not sold on that one yet, so it's probably right, because I'm often wrong) or she knew Izzy since both of them were subjects to whatever their kiddnapers where up to. This also could be some paralel worlds - acccessible through mirors - and Alice is paralel world version of Izzy. Or something. I also think that the dead man in a car might be Katie's dad.


At first I thought Alice was Izzy, but I don’t think that’s true. So then I thought maybe Alice has contact with Izzy. She is the girl she sees during her episodes.
I just assumed that Fran was Alice’s mom, but she is not. So who is she??? How does Fran have money to keep moving? She says she has several credit cards under different names, and she says they are easy to get. Ummm, is it really that easy??
Who is the Samaritan? Can we trust him??
Is the man in the trunk the same guy that took Izzy?
I think “the other people” killed Katie’s dad, but why?
I need answers!!! I’m definitely intrigued, and will be reading all night!!


Can’t wait to read more tonight!

I also got this on loan from the library just a couple days ago too. Didn't think it was going to make it to me in time to read for the live show tomorrow but it did. I'm loving this so far too! Can't wait to finish it today and see how it ends.