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message 1: by Niledaughter (last edited Jul 14, 2015 05:28AM) (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod


**We will have three stops this year :
- Egypt ....(January - June)

- Sudan and Horn of Africa ( Somalia or Djibouti )... (July - September)

- Reading from Central Asia and south Asiaand south Asia countries (Afghanistan , Kazakhstan or Pakistan ) ... (October - December)


** Updates :
- Our first read from Egypt The Harafish - January first until the end of February 2015
- Our second read from Egypt is In the Eye of the Sun starting from February 15 and until April 15 - 2015

- our third read from Egypt will be The literary atlas of Cairo: One Hundred Years on the Streets of the City from April first until the end of May .

- Our fourth read from Egypt will be Diary of a Country Prosecutor from May first until June 15 - 2015.

- Our last read from Egypt Brooklyn Heights from June first until July 15 - 2015

- From Sudan we will be reading The Translator from July 1st until August 31 .

- We are having a guest book from Ethiopia to read , we will be reading The God Who Begat a Jackal: A Novel from August 15 to September 30 - 2015 .

- About Pakistan and Bangladesh We will be reading A Golden Age from September 15 until November 15 .


message 2: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 928 comments Great! I've ordered The Harafish for January!


message 3: by Marieke, Former moderator (new)

Marieke | 1179 comments Mod
I have a copy somewhere and hope to find it! Otherwise, library... :)


message 4: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Looking forward reading The Harafish :) !


message 5: by Ardene (last edited Dec 14, 2014 02:50PM) (new)

Ardene (booksnpeaches) | 116 comments Here are a few books from Pakistani authors from the DSC Prize for South Asian literature lists:

Nadeem Aslam: The Blind Man’s Garden
Uzma Aslam Khan: Thinner Than Skin & Trespassing
Bilal Tanweer: The scatter here is too great
A Golden Age & The Good Muslim by Tahmima Anan (really set in Bangladesh, about the civil war between East & West Pakistan where Bangladesh becomes independent)

Others -
The Wandering Falcon by Jamil Ahmad
In other rooms, other wonders short stories by Daniyal Mueenuddin
A case of exploding mangoes by Mohammed Hanif
Sadkia's way by Hina Haq
The Swallows of Kabul by Yasmina Khadra


novels of partition
Ice-Candy man (Cracking India) by Bapsi Sidhwa
Train to Pakistan by Khushwant Singh
also check out this page


non fiction
Children of Dust by Ali Eteraz
Bed of red flowers by Nelofer Pazira

PS I plan on joining in on Harafish.


message 6: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Thank you so much Ardene ! I am glad to see you around again :)


*******
The second poll is over , We will be reading In the Eye of the Sun starting from February 15 and until April 15 .


message 7: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 928 comments Are you sure we have time to read all the "stan" books? It is not that I don't want to read them, but it just seems a bit much. Personally for 2015 I'd rather just focus on the books of the countries of the Nile this time. That leaves me more choices in 2016!


message 8: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
:D I love your enthusiasm !
We are not planning to read all the "stan" books in 2015 but we will study your point and see how things will turn out :)


message 9: by Ardene (new)

Ardene (booksnpeaches) | 116 comments Nile daughter, I hope to be around a bit more consistently in 2015. I have good intentions and then real life gets in the way . . .

I am definitely interested in the January & February reads. The "stan" books - I think we'll have to choose one or two when we get there. I put a bunch up so I would have a place to look for them later in the year.


message 10: by MiA (last edited Dec 27, 2014 10:47AM) (new)

MiA (mirhershelf) | 61 comments Ardene wrote: "Nile daughter, I hope to be around a bit more consistently in 2015. I have good intentions and then real life gets in the way . . .

I am definitely interested in the January & February reads. The..."


Same here. I haven't been participating much in group activities lately. I hope I can make it up this year.

As for the "stan" readings, I own a copy of The Wasted Vigil by Nadeem Aslam and I'll be so much grateful if I got to read this in a group.


message 11: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Ardene , Great !:D

Marwa , I really hope to see more of you too :) more recommendations for the "stan" readings ! I think we will open a special thread for it soon .

HAPPY HOLIDAYS ...MERRY CHRISTMAS ...HAPPY NEW YEARS ! :D


message 12: by MiA (new)

MiA (mirhershelf) | 61 comments Nile daughter wrote: "Ardene , Great !:D

Marwa , I really hope to see more of you too :) more recommendations for the "stan" readings ! I think we will open a special thread for it soon .

HAPPY HOLIDAYS ...MERRY CHRI..."


I'll do my best :)

Merry Christmas everyone and wish you all a happy new year.


message 13: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Ardene and Marwa , do you mind re posting your recommendations in this thread :
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

I will be so grateful :)


message 14: by MiA (new)

MiA (mirhershelf) | 61 comments Done :)


message 15: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Thanks :)
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We will be reading The literary atlas of Cairo: One Hundred Years on the Streets of the City from April first until the end of May .


message 16: by Ardene (new)

Ardene (booksnpeaches) | 116 comments #13 Done. (Sorry it took so long, I was out of town early in January, and am trying to get caught up on my online book conversations.)


message 17: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Thanks :) ...welcome back !


message 18: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
We will be reading Diary of a Country Prosecutor from May first until June 15 .


message 19: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
The last poll from Egypt is over and We will be Brooklyn Heights from June first until July 15 - 2015 .


message 20: by Steve (new)

Steve Middendorf (stevemid) | 75 comments Hi Again, Well I finally finished Time of White Horses (which I think is how I found this group) and have started on In the Eye of the Sun (did MENA authors ever hear of a 300 page novel?)

Just one admin question if I may: Am I supposed to create a MENA or a 2015 Cruise bookshelf or some such?

Thanks again.
Steve


message 21: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Great you did , I hope you enjoyed it :)

Stevemid wrote: " (did MENA authors ever hear of a 300 page novel?)..."

They sure did :D , our upcoming reads are shorter .

Stevemid wrote: "Just one admin question if I may: Am I supposed to create a MENA or a 2015 Cruise bookshelf or some such?"

As you wish , but you must create a one if you want to participate in any challenge , that is how Goodreads challenges work , we have this one for now and we are working on anther one .

https://www.goodreads.com/challenges/...


message 22: by Dee (new)

Dee Where's the discussion for the Literary Atlas of Cairo, or will it be posted when the group finishes reading?


message 23: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "Where's the discussion for the Literary Atlas of Cairo, or will it be posted when the group finishes reading?"

It will be opened soon , hopefully in a day or two .


message 24: by Dee (new)

Dee Ok, great. I actually own that book, so looking forward to discussion.


message 25: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Great ! :) here it is

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 26: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
we will be reading The Translator from July 1st until August 31 .


message 27: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Thanks for sharing :)
I am not sure where they fit , may be we can make a thread in this section "cruise special tours -not books
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group...


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Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
We are having a guest book from Ethiopia to read , we will be reading The God Who Begat a Jackal: A Novel from August 15 to September 30 - 2015 .


message 29: by Niraj (new)

Niraj 123 (njdreads) | 27 comments Wonder if you're considering reading Tayeb Salih's 'Season of Migration to the North' as part of your cruise? (btw, love the idea of a gentle literary cruise through all of these countries in North/East Africa! You could go all poetic and draw parallels between words, their flow, and the flow of the river - but I'll stop there...)

The Nile is a central reference point for Salih constantly throughout the novel - and especially at the very end, which i won't reveal for anyone who hasn't read it. A deeply interesting and at times, puzzling read - but as some of my Arabic friends tell me, a real classic in Arabic fiction.

Hope I can come along on your literary journey - problem is, I'm a pretty slow, plodding reader, so it'll take me a while to get through the big, heavy novels. Maybe I can follow behind the cruise ship in a dinghy? Haha.


message 30: by Marieke, Former moderator (new)

Marieke | 1179 comments Mod
Lol Niraj, a dinghy! I might be in that little boat with you. I'm a mod here but can't keep up much of the time! Maybe I'm just Adrift on the Nile?


message 31: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Marieke ...Lol! :D
Welcome Niraj :) here is the link to Season of Migration to the North discussion thread:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

I would love to see any discussion revive again :) and don't worry about being late ;)


message 32: by Niraj (new)

Niraj 123 (njdreads) | 27 comments Thanks for that link Niledaughter - I'll definitely be adding my thoughts to that thread. I wanted to write a thorough review of the book, but life's ups and downs/bits and bobs have been stopping me from doing so so far. Typical life, screwing up my reading plans!
It's a novel I will definitely revisit - there are so many ideas, so many things, going on in the pages of the novel. I almost felt, something I'll elaborate on the thread, Salih's playing a 'game' with you, the reader - what is colonialism/postcolonialism/modernity/tradition/development/non-development etc.
I wonder what Salih would make of Sudan's current situation and position in the world today too - I think Season would still speak volumes about Sudan, the Middle East in general, even the entire history of post-colonisation across the world.
My Arabic friends told me it's incredibly moving in the original Arabic - but also quite controversial. I'll have to take their word for it...
So it's kickstarted my interest in reading more North African fiction, novels from Egypt, Sudan. A friend recommended Women At Point Zero to me too (anyone who has read that have recommendations too?)
Marieke, think of it as flowing with the tides! Yes, I am a crazily slow reader - how I made it through an Eng Lit degree is still beyond me...


message 33: by Marieke, Former moderator (new)

Marieke | 1179 comments Mod
Najib, you should definitely checked the group's shelves and mine as well. I have read Woman at Point Zero but there is another one of hers I liked so much more but I'm blanking on the name of it--oh it was The Innocence of the Devil. Also for Egypt I really enjoyed Sonallah Ibrahim's Zaat. Sorry I can't link to it because I'm using my phone. I also liked No One Sleeps in Alexandria by Ibrahim Abdel Meguid and the Pistachio Seller by Reem Bassiouney.


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Niraj 123 (njdreads) | 27 comments Marieke wrote: "Najib, you should definitely checked the group's shelves and mine as well. I have read Woman at Point Zero but there is another one of hers I liked so much more but I'm blanking on the name of it--..."
Thanks for all those suggestions Marieke, I'll hunt down as many of them as I can do! These Goodreads forums are certainly Broadening my literayr knowledge outside of the few authors/writers I knew from North Africa - Naguib Mahfouz, who I do want to read at some point, and Tayeb Salih.


message 35: by Melanie, Marhaba Language Expertise (new)

Melanie (magidow) | 782 comments Mod
Welcome Niraj - For the record, I find Tayyib Salih's writing (in Arabic) often beautiful too, in a sweet, simple way. I prefer some of his short stories, such as حفنة تمر - A Handful of Dates. Season of Migration is controversial, I suppose, due to the sex, violence, and dysfunctional family relations.


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Steve Middendorf (stevemid) | 75 comments Niledaughter wrote: "we will be reading The Translator from July 1st until August 31 ."

It's yummy. Just finished.


message 37: by Melanie, Marhaba Language Expertise (new)

Melanie (magidow) | 782 comments Mod
Oh! Steve, please feel free to share more of your ideas with us! I'm looking forward to reading The Translator soon!


message 38: by Steve (last edited Jun 11, 2015 03:59PM) (new)

Steve Middendorf (stevemid) | 75 comments Melanie wrote: "Oh! Steve, please feel free to share more of your ideas with us! I'm looking forward to reading The Translator soon!"

Thanks Mel, you all are so welcoming. Here's what I said about The Translator on my review:

"If you know that the politics of the West with respect to the Middle East are wrong, then stop reading political analysis and start reading historical fiction. Books like The Translator will connect you with the heart and soul of this land. You'll be richer for having gained a glimpse of humanity."

After I finished The Translator, I went straight back to the 2015 Cruise summary looking for what I could download next. I made a great find on Amazon: The Conference of the Birds for 99 cents! And 20 beautiful illustrations! http://www.amazon.com/Conference-Bird... Because of the illustrations I'm having to read this on my iPad - which is too heavy to read with in bed really, but my Kindle just doesn't do colour. I'm leary of translated poetry but I must say my initial impressions are very positive.


ReemK10 (Paper Pills) | 498 comments Stevemid wrote: "Melanie wrote: "Oh! Steve, please feel free to share more of your ideas with us! I'm looking forward to reading The Translator soon!"

Thanks Mel, you all are so welcoming. Here's what I said abou..."


Steve,You do know that there is a thread open for the Conference of the Birds under medieval texts. Do drop by and visit.


message 40: by Steve (new)

Steve Middendorf (stevemid) | 75 comments Thanks Mel, I just started reading, so not I'm ready to contribute yet but I'll go there soon.
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message 41: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
We will be reading A Golden Age from September 15 until November 15 .


message 42: by Zanna (new)

Zanna (zannastar) | 166 comments Oh I'd love to join that read Niledaughter...


message 43: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2903 comments Mod
Zanna wrote: "Oh I'd love to join that read Niledaughter..."

Great ! I want to read it too .


message 44: by Steve (new)

Steve Middendorf (stevemid) | 75 comments Susan Abulhawa denied entry to Palestine. Makes me so mad.
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/07/leading...


message 45: by Marieke, Former moderator (new)

Marieke | 1179 comments Mod
Poll results! We will be reading The Railway, beginning in November!


message 46: by Catherine (new)

Catherine (catjackson) Looks like a really good book...and I can get it through interlibrary loan.


message 47: by Niraj (new)

Niraj 123 (njdreads) | 27 comments Tahmima Amin visited Manchester (UK) where I'm based for the Literaure Festival two years back, and I heard her read from A Golden Age then. Sounded very interesting from what I can remember hearing from way back then! Hope I can join all of you with that - at the moment, I'm making my way through a Ben Okri novel, with a hefty number of pages, so will take me some time to get through all that...
Hopefully also squeeze in The Translator if I can!


message 48: by Zanna (new)

Zanna (zannastar) | 166 comments Haha good luck finding your way out of Okri, rather you than me with that! ;-)


message 49: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 928 comments Marieke wrote: "Poll results! We will be reading The Railway, beginning in November!"

That looks great! I will definitely read it with the group!


message 50: by Jalilah (last edited Aug 29, 2015 03:46AM) (new)

Jalilah | 928 comments The discussion for The God Who Begat a Jackal: A Novel has started! Is anyone still interested in reading it! I just read it this year and can highly recommend it. It is very epic, based on Both Ethiopian history and mythology. I will definitely be joining in on the discussions.here it is: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


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