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Berkley Publishing Group (berkleypub) | 37 comments Mod
The thread is for discussing any and all things Dresden Files!


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Paulum Mortis | 93 comments A completely open thread for the Dresden Files? So I could ask detailed magic and worldbuilding questions about the Dresdenverse and like…. crowdsource the internet to see if what I’m thinking is even possible?

Without worrying about spoilers or anything?


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Will Bell | 1 comments I don't know if Butcher has said this anywhere, but I feel like The Dresden Files are the journals that McCoy suggests Harry should write.


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Paulum Mortis | 93 comments I’ve come up with three questions; a big one, a little one, and a naughty one. And even if it’s FOOL MOON applicable I’ll save the big one for another day I think.

So, White Court vampires have low levels of fecundity and immunity to infection. You can tell because Whites don’t have swarms of baby vamps clomping underfoot, and Thomas doesn’t seem concerned with the extended consequences of a gut-shot. We know the demon is offering more than combat prowess. What I want to know is whether the Hunger is obliterating ALL infection before it takes hold, or simply making it so they can’t feel any of the symptoms?

It doesn’t matter how hetero you think you are; you, me, and everyone else in the world could be convinced to burn a year or so tongue down with Lara Raith…

Will I have to spend what’s remaining of my truncated lifespan carrying around something nasty? ‘Cos I really don’t like the idea of that at all!


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Paulum Mortis wrote: "I’ve come up with three questions; a big one, a little one, and a naughty one. And even if it’s FOOL MOON applicable I’ll save the big one for another day I think.

So, White Court vampires have lo..."


the Hunger does heal the body - the whites can take incredible amount of abuse and bounce back once they feed. regarding bacterias and viruses - good question - I guess they won't show the symptoms, but they may still be carriers of all sorts of things. Also - if you have someone like Thomas that is starving himself - his ability to regenerate is compromised.

regarding a session with lara or lord wraith - i'd hate to lose my little self-control - but maybe that's just my personal issues. I don't see the appeal of getting fed on by any of the vampires.


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Spoilers allowed? yay - I have a big question that is driving me nuts for a while:
All those references to Harry being some sort of super-wizard that can take on Outsiders - are they going anywhere? Will we ever see a story about how Harry's parents met? We know Margaret left lord Wraith and then when he tracked her she was with Harry's dad - but what happened in the middle? Did she know she's supposed to do that? The message she left in Thomas and Harry suggests she had prior knowledge - she died in childbirth, how was she supposed to do that message if she didn't even know Harry?
Anyway - maybe Lea could shed some light on the subject, not that she'd do it willingly...


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Paulum Mortis | 93 comments Yasmin wrote: "I don't see the appeal..."
…clearly you’ve never met Lara Raith. Heh. Unimportant.

How his parents met, and the situation surrounding his birth… don’t think we have enough information yet to give a proper answer, but I can offer a couple of hints:

Mags LeFay was in a Twilighty relationship for a while before Thomas came along. DuMorne and she at least knew one another, and both he and White King were connected to Walks Behind… Thomas is less than six years older than Harry, and Thomas remembers his mother a little… so, three or four when she left… with enough time having passed for at least a “probably” fell in love with Malcolm.

The timeline is a bit cramped, but possible, and he was born Samhain Night to Thomas’s Valentine’s Day. LeFay did know it was coming, as you’ve said, ‘cos she had the wherewithal to both dope slap Raith with a death curse and leave a psychic voicemail…

Dunno if that answers a question or even helps. Guess it could be Harry Pottered up, and have Dresden turn out to be a child of prophecy. This... wouldn’t surprise me, what with the whole Starborn confluence thingy we don’t know anything about.

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Will: "the journals that McCoy suggests Harry should write"

Could go into a fair bit of detail as to why this is probably true… two different scenes with Mab, and “Don’t look at me like that […] it made sense at the time” seems maybe something you’d write down after the fact?


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Greg (danceyeah) | 4 comments Yasmin wrote: "Spoilers allowed? yay - I have a big question that is driving me nuts for a while:
All those references to Harry being some sort of super-wizard that can take on Outsiders - are they going anywhere..."


I read somewhere...I don't recall where...that Butcher has some sort of apocalyptic trilogy planned for somewhere down the line. So, yes to the Gatekeeper/superwizard/chosen one/star born sort of thing, I think.

As for more about Harry's parents; it's hard to say. Sometimes authors leave things a little untidy, rather than wrapping them up in a nice little bow. At one point, Harry gets to talk to his dad for a minute, which is cool. I personally appreciate when an author doesn't tell you everything. There's something true to life about that.


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Laura Thatcher  (lar-z) | 2 comments Holy freaking shirtballs! I just read the Morgan POV entry. It opens up so many things!


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Paulum Mortis | 93 comments Jesus, have you seen the Taylor Walpol picture of Karrin Murphy… most artists seem to miss that she looks a little Buffyesque, but not at the same time, and this portrait of her about to shoot me in the face with a revolver… orders of magnitude closer/better than anything I’ve ever seen!

My question: do the entries for Feb 13th need to be visual art? ‘cos I’ve got something I really want to donate… though it might take me longer than nine days to finish

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Addendum: “Laura: …shirtballs! I just read Morgan’s POV”

Oh bloodyhell, can’t believe it took me 4hrs to put this together…

“It wasn;t your fault you got raised by that son of a bitch DuMorne” – Ebenezer #6BR This line has bothered me for years. As has the question of HOW Justin knew he’d used magic for the first time during the school Olympics thing.

Had DuMorne planted him in foster care and masked his presence soundly enough that even Blackstaff McCoy couldn’t find him… Ruthless, he didn’t five a piss about the kid, just picked him up when finally old enough to be useful?


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Laura wrote: "Holy freaking shirtballs! I just read the Morgan POV entry. It opens up so many things!"

me too - wow - morgan was supposed to do what?!? that takes Tough Love to a whole new level!
Given the choice between those 2, I'm pretty sure I'd want to run back to the orphenage...


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Paulum Mortis wrote: "Jesus, have you seen the Taylor Walpol picture of Karrin Murphy… most artists seem to miss that she looks a little Buffyesque, but not at the same time, and this portrait of her about to shoot me i..."

they're doing artist spotlights on the site - I'm sure they'd appreciate art donations on anything.


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Morgan's POV story raises an interesting question - Margaret knew some of the future - she know Wraith would come after her, she knew Harry would probably lose his father too - so who did she want to raise Harry after her death?
Justine? Ebenezer? Lea? surely not Morgan?!
Ebenezer wanted Morgan to do it, I bet Margaret and Justine had some sort of arrangement of their own.


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Ted (tedeg) Wait, what Morgan POV story?


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Meryl | 25 comments Paulum Mortis wrote: "Jesus, have you seen the Taylor Walpol picture of Karrin Murphy… most artists seem to miss that she looks a little Buffyesque, but not at the same time, and this portrait of her about to shoot me i..."

YES - I just read that Morgan journal entry. That more or less turned over my whole worldview about Morgan. Wow wow wow. And, that Margaret had put Morgan into the mix of her protections for Harry is also a mindblower.


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Ted (tedeg) Oh, that Morgan POV story.


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Nasim Bahador | 7 comments Laura wrote: "Holy freaking shirtballs! I just read the Morgan POV entry. It opens up so many things!"

???Where do I find this???


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Rashaun | 19 comments The Morgan POV is on jim-butcher.com


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Nasim Bahador | 7 comments Rashaun wrote: "The Morgan POV is on jim-butcher.com"

THANK YOU!!!!!!


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Rashaun | 19 comments Nasim wrote: "Rashaun wrote: "The Morgan POV is on jim-butcher.com"

THANK YOU!!!!!!"

You are welcome


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Julie Gattis (jukiee) | 42 comments Hi, I've had a question that has been bothering me. When did he acquire Bob and where did he hide him? Bob the Skull helped Harry at the mini market from the video game, but Harry didn't seem aware it wasn't part of the game. When he was gaining power with Lea, I don't think he had the skull. Unless Lea gave it to him, but that is a huge gift. After the duel with Justin is when I assume he picked up Bob's skull. Wouldn't Justin have hid the skull and not left it for easy pickings? Then he was captured and put on trial by the White Council and ended up on Ebenezer's farm. Where and when did he hide Bob? The Council would have searched him. Did he have Bob on the farm?


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Julie Gattis (jukiee) | 42 comments I must have missed that Nicodemus is balding, I was surprised by Walpole's illustrations.


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Paulum Mortis | 93 comments Julie wrote: "...been bothering me. When did he acquire Bob and where did he hide him?"

There is a gap here I think.

So he goes to school alone because Elaine is “sick.” Comes home early because he’s worried, skipping sixth period Spanish. DuMorne and an enthralled girlfriend try to talk him down, and when that fails attack him, he jumps out a window and runs off. Watches stoner Stan die and fights Walks Behind.

THEN, Lea shows up. Makes the bargain of “life for power” but really just tortures him for a week Magic Feather style. Returns to outskirts Des Moines, Iowa… kills his teacher in a duel, and burns their house to the ground. With Elaine trapped inside.

*BEAT*

White Council show up some time later, he gets bound, gagged, and McCoy saves him under the Doom of Damocles. Elaine ends up protected by the Summer Court.

Between DuMorne’s death and the Wardens arresting him, he has time to “dig through the smouldering ruins of Justin’s lab,” find Bob, and I think bury the skull under a rock, where it remaines hidden for a couple of years… I still think there’s a gap though. Like how did Elaine escape, how did he have time, and how did the Wardens know? There may be a blank spot in his memory and Harry himself doesn’t remember everything that happened.


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Julie wrote: "Hi, I've had a question that has been bothering me. When did he acquire Bob and where did he hide him? Bob the Skull helped Harry at the mini market from the video game, but Harry didn't seem aware..."

ooohh - you're right - Harry said he got Bob from Justin but he couldn't have had it with him during the trial...
Possibly Bob was hidden somewhere in the burned house, and Harry went back to look... not necessarily for Bob, but just look around for whatever he could find - and then found Bob?
Another option is he did find Bob right after Justin died, but he either hid it or Bob hid himself from others - the skull looks like a regular skull if Bob isn't making it sparkle.


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Julie Gattis (jukiee) | 42 comments In SK when Harry calls the White Council for help and Morgan flips out, in his rant he says, " Insanity was pulling you from that burning house two years ago." In previous readings I didn't look at the time and assumed it was Justin's house so he was arrested right away. Could it have been Bianca's mansion?
Had the war been going on two years? No first chapter Billy tells Dresden he burned down her place last Fall. two years?


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Julie Gattis (jukiee) | 42 comments Duh. the fire at the Lake House in Storm Front. Like Rosanne Roseannadanna, " Nevermind."


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Lee (2scoutmom) | 6 comments A couple of people have mentioned “Mirror Mirror”. What is this? Is it a short story or a graphic novel? I thought I was caught up on short stories and I know I have a few graphic novels that I have missed. TIA!


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Paulum Mortis | 93 comments Mirror, Mirror is a diverging chain of events set off by ONE CHOICE made differently during the events of GRAVE PERIL. It apparently results in the kind of universe where Dresden had gone more-or-less super evil, and Marcone has a goatee… thereby, making him evil too I guess?

So Evil-Dresden kidnaps Prime-Dresden and—I think frames him for murder. It’s the book after PEACE TALKS… so #17.

What’s funny is, I am absolutely certain I know the line in bk#3 which diverges the series, to the point I’d be willing to bet actually cash money on being right!


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Paulum Mortis wrote: "Mirror, Mirror is a diverging chain of events set off by ONE CHOICE made differently during the events of GRAVE PERIL. It apparently results in the kind of universe where Dresden had gone more-or-l..."

LOL - good one - but not a helpful answer - it's the book after Peace Talks and we don't know anything about it.


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Lee (2scoutmom) | 6 comments Thank you. I just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss anything.


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Brian Layman (brianlayman) | 10 comments This question mentions a minor, non-plot related incident at the end of Blood Rites. So, it may be spoiler-esque for those not to that point again.

I went through the first few books really quickly in my re-read this time around. I had them playing in the background as I pulled all-nighters. I may have missed a few things. So I wanted to confirm my understanding of He Who Walks Behind, what it was in the first book and what it is now. In the first book, when the prisoner pumped up on the special Third Eye Ju-Ju Juice (TM) looked at Harry, he actually SAW He Who Walks Behind. Didn't he?

I had the impression that Harry was under current persecution or at least that the demon was some sort of impending Sword of Damn-o-cles hanging over Dresden. It seemed a thread that was Butcher set aside until the end Blood Rites when he pulled on it again - except that now it seems the thread is attached to a completely different sweater.

At the end of the Blood Rites, He Who Walks Behind is said to be a Demon that Harry somehow beat in a one-on-one and rather than having followed Harry, has just now been reminded of Harry. This is very different than what I thought it was. I remember in my first read through waiting and waiting for HWWB to appear again and thinking he never would. Now in BR, he's/it's here but different.

Am I correct on this? Is it a retcon or did I simply mis-understand the original book's concept?

(Edit: There is an implied reference to HWWB in Dead Beat too, but not by name. It is in chapter 11. It seems to support the original concept. So maybe I just misunderstood Blood Rites and I should wait till that book's thread is opened. I thought I was asking a more general question.)


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Brian Layman (brianlayman) | 10 comments Lee wrote: "A couple of people have mentioned “Mirror Mirror”. What is this? Is it a short story or a graphic novel? I thought I was caught up on short stories and I know I have a few graphic novels that I hav..."

My knowledge of this book was limited to the quote on Goodreads:
"The next book after this one (Peace Talks) is called Mirror Mirror and there's just going to be eye patches and goatees and everything." Jim Butcher, DragonCon 2015.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...


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Lillicat | 57 comments Brian wrote: "This question mentions a minor, non-plot related incident at the end of Blood Rites. So, it may be spoiler-esque for those not to that point again.

I went through the first few books really quickl..."


In Storm Front, it says that having been targeted by HWWB left a sort of dark stain on Harry that others with the third eye could see; he likens it to a scar.There’s no knowing exactly what the junkie saw or how he knew to even call it HWWB, but I think he’d have been even more freaked out than he was if he’d been able to see the demon itself. My understanding is that Harry spends most of the books under the impression he beat it, but in a much later book (Skin Game?) he thinks maybe HWWB wasn’t really trying that hard, and was just sort of swatting him around to toughen him up in preparation for his anticipated role as the opener of the Outer Gates, which seems to be what the bad guys were grooming Harry for.


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Lillicat | 57 comments Yasmin wrote: "Morgan's POV story raises an interesting question - Margaret knew some of the future - she know Wraith would come after her, she knew Harry would probably lose his father too - so who did she want ..."

Given prophecies exist in the Dresdenverse, and given Lydia in GP saying Harry is the one who has the ability to change the future path, and given the Star Born thing that has yet to be explained but which sounds danged important, and given (Luccio?) in a later book calling Harry’s mom a “selfish bitch” IIRC (which could simply have been due to her not telling Harry’s dad about her first kid), and the likelihood mom knew she’d been targeted by Raith and had time enough to let loose a death curse on him, and (deep breath), it rather looks like his mom, who was said to run with a bad crowd prior to having a change of heart — deliberately set out to give birth to the child of prophecy, perhaps originally intending to have the kid be Bad Harry, in cahoots with the bad crowd, and then realizing she wanted Good Harry instead. We don’t know what changed her allegiance near the end. Perhaps it was simply meeting Harry’s dad. But I’ve always wondered if part of the reason Luccio calls her a bitch is because she’s thinking “what sort of mother would WANT her son to have to fulfill some hideous prophecy?” And all this means that you could be right and that she originally intended Harry to be influenced by Justin — they might have been evil buddies before she changed her mind. I can’t remember any reference to whether she and Justin knew each other or not. But I bet she wouldn’t have wanted him raising Harry after she switched sides.


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Lillicat | 57 comments Yasmin wrote: "Julie wrote: "Hi, I've had a question that has been bothering me. When did he acquire Bob and where did he hide him? Bob the Skull helped Harry at the mini market from the video game, but Harry did..."

Hmmm. This is a good question. My sort of vague recollection is that Harry killed Justin and burned down the house. Then searched the ruins, perhaps looking for Elaine, and finding Bob and taking him. (The wardens knew about Bob, I think ‘luccio mentions it and Harry decides to not mention that he has the skull. ) In The Zoo short story, he says he was too exhausted to put up any resistance when the wardens came for him. The question is how quickly did they know what happened to Justin? If it took days for them to find out and track Harry down, was he exhausted from being homeless, traumatized, hungry and maybe unable to sleep, but having had time to hide Bob? Presumably if they’d shown up at the actual duel, they’d have searched the rubble and found Bob. Or maybe Justin had a secret room that Harry knew about and he went back later, after the trial, although you’d think Morgan would have been on his tail and caught him doing it. Maybe I’ve forgotten something; I’m only on Blood Rites in my current read through... Something to watch for!

Or did Harry steal Bob before the duel? I haven’t re-read the book that describes the fight with He Who Walks Behind, but I don’t remember anything about Bob helping him there.


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Jay Parker | 13 comments Has anyone ever wondered why Thomas doesn't seem to have ant magical abilities. JB mentions in one of the books (I think White Knight) that magical talent tend to be passed on from the mothers bloodline. Harry has magic from Margaret but why not Thomas. Even Lord Raith has magical talent so it should go double for Thomas.


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Brian Layman (brianlayman) | 10 comments Lillicat wrote: "HWWB left a sort of dark stain on Harry that others with the third eye could see; he likens it to a scar."

That makes a lot of sense. I think I was taking the name too literally. On my first read through I was expecting HWWB to appear in the second book and there was nothing and nothing in the next book either. That impression has stayed with me for every read through since. Thank you for pointing that phrase out to me. Things fit better now.


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Brian Layman (brianlayman) | 10 comments Jay wrote: "Has anyone ever wondered why Thomas doesn't seem to have ant magical abilities. "

I spent a moment wondering what "ant magic" would actually look like.. You do make a good point. However, since Raith kills all male offspring, I would think that he would work rather hard at squashing an magical ability that Thomas ever expressed. That's my thought anyway.


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Kevin Runde | 4 comments In Side Jobs - BackUp Thomas talks about being able to cast some simple spells and says it is different than what Harry describes it as. So I think Thomas can cast spells, but hasn't invested time into it. His father probably never encouraged it either.


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Lillicat wrote: "Yasmin wrote: "Morgan's POV story raises an interesting question - Margaret knew some of the future - she know Wraith would come after her, she knew Harry would probably lose his father too - so wh..."

well - Maraget knew Justin, they were buddies in the group of young wizards dissatisfied with the while council and doing their best to get the rules of the council changed. Maybe Justin went further than Margaret was willing to go toward the end.
Don't forget that Justin was the apprentice of Simon from Archangel - so he was white council himself at the begining.

Considering how many White Council wizards have been infected by the Adversary, I'm surprised it took until Turn Coat for most of the council to notice... although having Harry to blame on the treasons probably helped keep the real traitors undercover.

Anyway - my bet is Margaret and Justine were young members of the White Council, and they were angry about how the rules where abused - considering Harry and Molly were struggling with them too - i guess most young wizards would at one point or another ask "what's so bad about tampering with someone's mind, why can't i use magic to kill bad guys, why am I hobbled when the warlocks are free to do what they want"... and they were going more extreme and hanging out with disreputable crowd to get the different POV from that of the Council...
but then Margaret had a change of heart and Justin just went on with the original plan...

I would really like to know what happened then.

Also - that would explain why she wanted Justin to raise her son at one point.

So - any bets on how many necromancers are in the white council like Grevane?


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Brian wrote: "This question mentions a minor, non-plot related incident at the end of Blood Rites. So, it may be spoiler-esque for those not to that point again.

I went through the first few books really quickl..."


He Who Walks Behind is a creature from outside the outer gates.
Justine sent him to get Harry back after he runs away from his attempted binding.
We don't know a lot about them, aside from the fact that they are so nasty that even Nicodimus is not on their side, and the whole Winter fae court is dedicated to stopping them.
We know that the Winter Lady is supposed to be guarding the border, but she has been neglecting her duties for years as Maeve - so bad that Mab wanted her killed.
We know Margaret and Justin were challanging White Council rules, so that's one of them. We know Margaret was hanging out with Lea from the Winter Court, maybe that's why they were talking in the 1st place...
We know Harry has the power to defete the Walkers - Margaret was trying for something like him?
In Ghost Story, we learn HWWB was mostly testing Harry and not putting an effort to kill him. I wonder if he was ment to be the one who opened the Outer Gates and let them in at one point, or if his role is pivotal and can go either way - open the gates or close them.

The Adversery is linked to the Walkers too - they probably started it in the 1st place.
I wonder how hard it is to actually talk to one of those in a summoning circle, and how hard it is for them to stay in this world.


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Frank | 4 comments Brian wrote: "Lillicat wrote: "HWWB left a sort of dark stain on Harry that others with the third eye could see; he likens it to a scar."

That makes a lot of sense. I think I was taking the name too literally. ..."


If I remember it correctly, this was during a scene in Fool Moon when Harry is at the police station and some guy on Third Eye looks at him and mentions HWWB. At this point Harry's narration states an aside (explaining HWWB) that goes something like: "For whatever reason, I have been indelibly marked by a creature..."

So...

Since the Third Eye drug was stated as conveying Wizard's Sight, this suggests (though doesn't guarantee) that people who have Wizard Sight (wizards) will/can see that mark on him (think about the implications of that), though nothing is stated about whether people who share a Soul Gaze with Harry will or won't see it as part of what they perceive. Still, it's very curious that a druggie on Third Eye would just happen to not only see HWWB, but also "know" him by name.

I've always been curious-- is this part of what Marcone might have seen during their Soul Gaze, too?


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Brian Layman (brianlayman) | 10 comments Still, it's very curious that a druggie on Third Eye would just happen to not only see HWWB, but also "know" him by name.

I've always been curious-- is this part of what Marcone might have seen during their Soul Gaze, too?"


You raise an interesting point as I have little doubt that Morgan would have looked at Harry with his sight.

As to Marcone, I don't know that a soul gaze would have shown the mark of HWWB. It may have shown the effect of it, but not the mark. I think of wizard's sight as showing the truth as to what is on the outside of the individuals and a soul gaze as showing what remains after all of that has been stripped away. The core that has been affected or perhaps even effected by what is on the outside.


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Considering Bob's personality is affected by whoever owns him - what does it say about Harry that he has a sex-maniac for a lab assisstant...

yeah - Harry's a perfect gentleman, but the cold shower thing seems to be his preference.

BTW - here we use solar water heaters with a very simple design - no electrical parts needed - I guess chicago doesn't have enough sunny days to make it worthwhile.


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Lillicat | 57 comments Yasmin wrote: "Considering Bob's personality is affected by whoever owns him - what does it say about Harry that he has a sex-maniac for a lab assisstant...

yeah - Harry's a perfect gentleman, but the cold showe..."


I don’t think the sex maniac thing goes away. Bob is fascinated by Andi’s boobs when Butters has the skull. Of course, it’s likely that so is Butters. ;-)

I have the impression Harry can blow out pretty much anything with electricity without even trying. I bet solar panels wouldn’t last very long around him, but it’s an interesting idea.


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Lillicat | 57 comments I’m on Proven Guilty. Harry says Mac is “downright angelic” when he brings him a much-needed beer. In a later book, an Outsider, IIRC, calls Mac a Watcher. Hmm.


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Chris (perrins2win) | 31 comments I've actually always wondered why he didn't set up a Thaumaturgical solution to the cold water thing a long time ago. If he can store Kinetic energy in a ring there should be no reason why he can't do something similar with his fireplace then apply that energy to the water in his water heater.

I've always assumed he just has a martyr complex that he needs to work out. Which come to think of it, he does.


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Yasmin Mazur | 196 comments Regarding Mac - he is not human, but we still don't know what his deal is. We do know he has a neutral accord ground establishment - so whatever he was, he wants out.
I wonder how long he can stay out with all that's going on...


Caryl Huffstetler | 54 comments Will wrote: "I don't know if Butcher has said this anywhere, but I feel like The Dresden Files are the journals that McCoy suggests Harry should write."

Until Harry's place is firebombed in Changes, we are told many times, in several of the books that he has leather bound journals and notes aplenty all over the lab. Plus, he has case files in his office file cabinets, which are destroyed when the office building is blown up, also in Changes. Either could be the source of the Dresden Files up until Changes. But unless Ivy has had a way to recreate these writings for Harry, as a gift maybe?, where are the newer books coming from? Hmmm - Gotta suspend a little disbelief occasionally in works of fiction.


Caryl Huffstetler | 54 comments Yasmin wrote: "Lillicat wrote: "Yasmin wrote: "Morgan's POV story raises an interesting question - Margaret knew some of the future - she know Wraith would come after her, she knew Harry would probably lose his f..."

People, it's JUSTIN - the evil foster father and JUSTINE- Thomas' love interest. Let's please watch the spelling and not get that wrong before people get throughly confused.


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