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message 151: by Erin (new)

Erin Bottger (Bouma) (erinbottger) | 8 comments Hi, I'm Erin,
I do a lot of reading and realize, at age 77, I better get going if I'm to get through all the interesting books I've collected or hope to read. I like hard copies, but also access e-books and audiobooks.

I grew up in the Pacific Northwest in a reading family and I'm so grateful that, when I left home at 21 to move to San Francisco, we still had not bought a TV. The school and public libraries were resources, and it has never taken me long to fill up bookshelves. I love to learn, and reading was one of the best ways to explore the world, history and people of all sorts doing all sorts of things with their lives.

From 1991 to 2014 I lived in Moscow, Russia teaching English and it was tremendously fulfilling and educational. I was also in a position there to travel to parts of Russia, the former USSR and northern Europe. One of my high points was a successful American Literature Discussion Club I led for 3 years. Of course, I have been reading (in translation) the Russian classics and moderns as well as Russian history. I continue to find interesting books in this area to add to my understanding.

Now, I have been living in Montgomery, Alabama for 5 years with my husband and so have tried to learn more about the South in general, the Civil War and Reconstruction Period, and Southern authors.

When I learned about this Goodreads book club and that it was reading "Abigail" by Magda Szabo, I readily joined. I have already read her "Iza's Ballad" and "The Door" and "Abigail" was already in my library. For my taste and needs, too many book clubs do not take on challenging or serious books. I'm hoping I've at last found a pretty good match.

At present I have a whole stack of books I've finished in the past 5 months that I must get around to reviewing soon. My husband insists I move them along to other readers.


message 152: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 383 comments Mod
Sara wrote: "My name is Sara and I found this group almost by accident. I already know a number of people here and hope to get to know others. Sorry I missed Abigail, but I'll be ready to join in on the next read."

Welcome, Sara! You'll make a wonderful addition to this thoughtful group.

I am missing Abigail also, but very much looking forward to the next read.


message 153: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 383 comments Mod
Erin wrote: "Hi, I'm Erin,
I do a lot of reading and realize, at age 77, I better get going if I'm to get through all the interesting books I've collected or hope to read. I like hard copies, but also access e-..."


Welcome, Erin! What interesting experiences you've had. I am feeling the need to read faster too, but I think you'll enjoy the pace here, and our choices are serious but we bring fun to them too. Looking forward to you adding to the discussions!


message 154: by Jan (new)

Jan (janrog) | 271 comments Erin wrote: "Hi, I'm Erin,
I do a lot of reading and realize, at age 77, I better get going if I'm to get through all the interesting books I've collected or hope to read. I like hard copies, but also access e-..."


Welcome, Erin!

I couldn't help but smile reading your last comment about sending books forward to other readers. That's what I'm doing, too.

I also appreciate your titles; I've enjoyed reading "Abigail" and now look forward to reading others by her (after making it through a patient tower of books before me.)

I'm happy you're part of our group.
My Best, Jan


message 155: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) Erin, delighted to meet you!

Kathleen, totally happy to be here with you all.


message 156: by Sandra (new)

Sandra L L. | 180 comments Mod
Welcome, Erin. So nice to gain yet another perspective in our “obscure” group! Thanks for sharing such wonderful background about yourself.


message 157: by Darrin (new)

Darrin (darrinlettinga) Welcome Erin!


message 158: by Sue (new)

Sue | 255 comments Welcome Erin. I too wonder how I will ever read a reasonable portion of the books on my tbr list . I’m 72 now with some thousands of ideas for reading to choose from. But it is a delightful predicament.


message 159: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) I think many of us are realizing we will die with a TBR a mile long. I might request that the list of unread books be buried with me, just in case heaven has a library. 😃


message 160: by Jan (new)

Jan (janrog) | 271 comments Sara wrote: "I think many of us are realizing we will die with a TBR a mile long. I might request that the list of unread books be buried with me, just in case heaven has a library. 😃"

Now THAT would be a lovely heaven; I may try a bit harder to get in now. (ha ha)


message 161: by Diane (new)

Diane Barnes I have a friend who is certain her tbr insures immortality. Just as she starts each book, she prays "God, don't let me die til I finish this one!". But that library in Heaven sounds pretty good too.


message 162: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) No matter how much we pray, Diane, we are destined to die in the middle of a book.


message 163: by Diane (new)

Diane Barnes That's quite true, Sara. I just hope it's one I was going to dnf anyway!


message 164: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 383 comments Mod
Sara wrote: "No matter how much we pray, Diane, we are destined to die in the middle of a book."

Hmm. This is a problem I hadn't thought of. I wonder if it would it be overly-Egyptian to request to be buried with my current reading ...


message 165: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) Diane wrote: "That's quite true, Sara. I just hope it's one I was going to dnf anyway!"

lol. We can but hope. Maybe if I feel the first pangs of death I will have time to get hold of something I'm sure I won't like.


message 166: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
Welcome, Erin, and thanks for the newsy background. I'm a bit of a Russophile myself, not because I regard Putin & Co. in a positive way, but because I'm a big fan of the Golden Age of Russian Lit. in the 19th Century. Also, I visited the USSR in 1975. Seems like yesterday but it's not even yesteryear. How about yesterdecade?


message 167: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
Regarding death and books and TBR piles, isn't there a king and queen buried side by side in England with reposed likenesses holding hands?

Heck, if they can do that, they can surely bury us with a book likeness in our hands. Or a book in the casket. Or a book in our ashes. Or whatever we can get Marcus Aurelius to approve!


message 168: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 383 comments Mod
Ken wrote: "Regarding death and books and TBR piles, isn't there a king and queen buried side by side in England with reposed likenesses holding hands?

Heck, if they can do that, they can surely bury us with ..."


Great idea! Marcus A--now that's yester-millennium!


message 169: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
Kathleen wrote: "Ken wrote: "Regarding death and books and TBR piles, isn't there a king and queen buried side by side in England with reposed likenesses holding hands?

Heck, if they can do that, they can surely b..."



I recently finished my reread of the lovely Meditations and am amazed at how similar his outlook (and the Stoics, for that matter) is to the Buddhists. Very much a living-in-the-moment kind of thing working in that great mind. That and working like hell to accept the naturalness of death. (I can attest that it's a task.)

Aurelius calls it logos, but the Buddhists would use another word. Not sure which one because they use so many and not all are clear to me (I am not a blackbelt Buddhist by any means). ;-)


message 170: by Sue (new)

Sue | 255 comments I love that prospective conundrum of dying while in the middle of a book. Diane, while I appreciate your idea of it being a DNF, I think I’d rather I be enjoying some wonderful prose, maybe forever lost in a Faulkner sentence, though I think I may reach a point where I won’t be able to find my way through a Faulkner sentence!


message 171: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
I swore Faulkner off and didn't even need 12 steps!

Meanwhile, I wrote my review of good-old Abigail this morning, as I finished it out on the dock overlooking a Maine lake yesterday.

More exciting yet? I get to post the final discussion thread tomorrow night (What? Sunday already?), and we get to compare notes on Szabó's ability to bring it home, as they say.

Looking forward to that!


message 172: by Erin (new)

Erin Bottger (Bouma) (erinbottger) | 8 comments Sara wrote: "I think many of us are realizing we will die with a TBR a mile long. I might request that the list of unread books be buried with me, just in case heaven has a library. 😃"

What a lovely idea! Maybe I should put my Kindle in my will. It's loaded with 300+ books in it.


message 173: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) Sue wrote: "forever lost in a Faulkner sentence"

What a lovely thought, Sue.


message 175: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
A Bjorn Killer, that one.


message 176: by Sara (last edited Jun 13, 2020 08:27PM) (new)

Sara (phantomswife) lol. hilarious.


message 177: by Daniel Archer (last edited Aug 31, 2020 05:45AM) (new)

Daniel Archer | 1 comments Hello all!

I’ve just discovered your group and am happy to join! I’m a former English teacher from San Francisco, now a copywriter in Nice, France. I am a constant reader, especially drawn to classics and, well, more obscure titles. I’m looking forward to your discussions!

Feel free to friend me as I always appreciate seeing what others are reading.

All the best,
Daniel 📚


message 178: by Sandra (new)

Sandra L L. | 180 comments Mod
Hurray and Welcome, Daniel! I’m a retired English teacher! We have great discussions here.


message 179: by Yvonne (new)

Yvonne S (revyvonne) | 86 comments Welcome, Daniel! That's my dream, spending my life reading and getting paid for it. Just friended you -- Yvonne


message 180: by Darrin (new)

Darrin (darrinlettinga) Welcome, Daniel. I am going to friend you too. I am a constant reader also and of a wide range of genres though classics have always been a weak area for me. I look forward to seeing your reading list.


message 181: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
Who would've thought that "friend" would outverb (!) befriend some day (but it has... at least online). Great to have you in the group, Daniel. There are a few teachers and a few ex-teachers here. Just a few. ;-)


message 182: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 17 comments Hello!!!

I am so excited to find this group. I am a lover of the classics and have finally discovered Thomas Hardy. In this short time, I have become 100% completely obsessed with his writing.

I recently finished Far from the Madding Crowd and Return of the Native. Just started Tess of the D’Uberville.

I’m not the greatest with technology 🤣 but my friend Ann uses goodreads to the fullest and I asked if she could find a Thomas Hardy group for me and here I am!

I live in Florida with my dog, Eddie. He's listened to all of the books with me, a well-read guy 😉

Looking forward to future discussions!
Kelly


message 183: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
(Uh-oh.) Sad to say this, Kelly, but we are not a Thomas Hardy group. We just happened to choose a Thomas Hardy novel for our first group discussion.

I hope you read some non-Hardy books, too. You know. Obscure ones. Like that Jude dude.


message 184: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 17 comments Haha no worries! I’ll check it out.


message 185: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
In addition to Kelly, we've picked up a few new members during our voting this week. They are welcome to vote, too, by scrolling all the way down on the group's home page, checking out the October nominees (ten, as of today), and voting for one.


message 186: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 383 comments Mod
Welcome Daniel and Kelly, and don't forget to vote! :-)


message 187: by Jan (new)

Jan (janrog) | 271 comments Sara wrote: "lol. hilarious."

Welcome, Daniel!
I look forward to this new book and learning more about all these wonderful readers. You're in fine company, indeed.


message 188: by Matthew Ted (new)

Matthew Ted | 92 comments Hi all, I've just joined the group and looking forward to some discussions. I'm Matt, I'm twenty-three years old from Worthing near Brighton in the south of England. Thanks for inviting me, Ken. Look forward to reading some good books with you all.


message 189: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
Matthew wrote: "Hi all, I've just joined the group and looking forward to some discussions. I'm Matt, I'm twenty-three years old from Worthing near Brighton in the south of England. Thanks for inviting me, Ken. Lo..."

Great to see you here, Matt!


message 190: by Sandra (new)

Sandra L L. | 180 comments Mod
Welcome, Matt.


message 191: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) Welcome aboard, Matt.


message 192: by Bionic Jean (last edited Sep 02, 2020 12:48PM) (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Hi everyone,

I'm Jean and have been "lurking" a couple of weeks reading the posts, so thought I should introduce myself. How I found you is unusual ... Someone liked a review of mine ... I checked out his profile (we are now friends ... Hi JimZ :) ) and was intrigued by your group's name so looked further!

As a lover of Thomas Hardy's novels and some poetry, I thought that any group who thoroughly enjoyed reading (what I consider) his best work, must be a interesting group of people :) Even if you never read anything by him as a group again ;)

So here I am, and delighted now to see my good friend Sara here and others!

Just realised that this is supposed to be a "quick hello" so will close by saying thank you for making this an open group. I'm English, a Charles Dickens fanatic, and am looking forward to the occasional intriguing read with you all :)


message 193: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 17 comments Hello jean!

I just joined as well for similar reasons! I was looking for a group where people might also love Thomas Hardy’s work as much as I do, so I’m very glad to meet you!

I will add you as a friend if that is all right :)


message 194: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) Jean - So happy to see you here. This will be my first read with the group, but I lurked during the end of the read of Abigail and knew this was a group I would want to be a part of.

Kelly - nice to meet you as well. I'm also a big fan of Hardy!


message 195: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Kelly wrote: "Hello jean! ..."

Hello! Of course, yes :) Thank you.


message 196: by Bionic Jean (new)

Bionic Jean (bionicjean) Thank you Sara :)


message 197: by Helen (new)

Helen | 3 comments Hello - I have just discovered this group thanks to Bionic Jean, and followed her trail to the Obscure Reading. I have come to United States more than 20 years ago from Eastern Europe, and am looking forward to reading my first novel of Thomas Hardy. Unfortunately, this author has not been a part of my school program - sadly, this is true for most classics discussed here - but I am happy to enjoy and experience it all without the push and the pressure of mandatory school reading.

Professionally, I started as an engineer and then gradually changed course to finance, and then to data analysis and business intelligence.

I was really "stirred and shaken" by "Sophie's Choice" and am looking forward to reading along with you.


message 198: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
Bionic Jean wrote: "Hi everyone,

I'm Jean and have been "lurking" a couple of weeks reading the posts, so thought I should introduce myself. How I found you is unusual ... Someone liked a review of mine ... I checked..."



Hello and welcome, Jean.

I'm from New England just across the pond from Jolly Olde. Glad we are increasing our international perspective here.

As for Dickens, maybe next go-round someone (you, perhaps?) will nominate a more obscure novel of his. I've read The Pickwick Papers, Oliver Twist, David Copperfield, Great Expectations, A Tale of Two Cities, Hard Times, and A Christmas Carol (umpteen times, as a licensed sentimentalist).

CDs I've yet to play include the more obscure but critically acclaimed Bleak House as well as Our Mutual Friend, Nicholas Nickleby, Martin Chuzzlewit, and God knows what else I can't think of.


message 199: by Ken (new)

Ken | 797 comments Mod
Helen wrote: "Hello - I have just discovered this group thanks to Bionic Jean, and followed her trail to the Obscure Reading. I have come to United States more than 20 years ago from Eastern Europe, and am looki..."


Hi, Helen, and welcome. Maybe some day we'll read another Thomas Hardy. Maybe, too, I need to rewrite the introduction to this group so people don't think it is a Thomas Hardy Only book group. I don't know.

I do know I'm happy to see you here. I have Polish roots myself (close?), but mostly Irish ones.


message 200: by JimZ (new)

JimZ | 12 comments Bionic Jean wrote: "Hi everyone,

I'm Jean and have been "lurking" a couple of weeks reading the posts, so thought I should introduce myself. How I found you is unusual ... Someone liked a review of mine ... I checked..."

Hi Jean. Nice to see you on here! I found this group because a friend suggested I might be interested in it. It is nice how we all end up in a group such as this...I was pleased at the potential selections for this coming read....indeed the books were a bit off the beaten path but appear to deserve a wider audience.


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