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message 1151: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Ha. Didn't Betsy once say she hates a certain genre of film? What was it, romances? It could be that if I posed more romantic stars, she might have to 'knit her brow' somewhat more, to solve some of these! :)


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Betsy | 3472 comments Thanks for the praise, but I'm STILL working on #93, which is frustrating. He's just so 'typical', and there are so many of similar looks.

BTW, I don't dislike romance, just not in movies or books where it's not appropriate, such as most war movies.


message 1153: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments Okay, another guess for #93 - Arthur Loft?


message 1154: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
no cigar


message 1155: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments After going nearly crossed-eyed looking for #93, I have possibly narrowed it down to 4 names who look somewhat like him. Will you look at the 4, and just say 'yes' or 'no' if he's there? That way I won't waste time posting all of them. I will then try to narrow it down. Thanks. Edward McWade, Erskine Sandford, Charles D. Brown or Joseph Crehan.


message 1156: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Jul 23, 2020 10:02AM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Unfortunately none of these are he.

I would concentrate on Capra films to find this joe. Remember, I mentioned earlier the top directors he worked for. He only appeared in a handful of famous titles; though possessed of a lengthy career throughout the '30s.


message 1157: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
To put it another way: when I see mega-famous classics for this actor, I see them grouped between '39 and '43 (or whatever I stated earlier).

But his filmography is long; and guess what, he's got teeny appearances in these too:

The Roaring Twenties
Libeled Lady
China Seas
His Girl Friday
A Star is Born
...and a whole bunch of others.

All too often, he goes uncredited. I admit that. But his work for Capra almost makes him a Capra 'regular'.


message 1158: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments #93 - Wade Boteler?


message 1159: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
NOOOOO


message 1160: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Jul 23, 2020 01:59PM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
The toughest film quizzo I ever saw was on TCM's chat forums. They were ridiculously difficult. To a power of ten-fold beyond what I might ever master.

The whiz kids (I use 'kids' loosely) there -- I'm not fibbing when I say that I saw them identify actors in commercials in the 1950s. And they were using purely their visual memory. It was to marvel at.

Betsy would be able to hang with that crowd and Jill too.

I left those forums because it was a 'coterie' environment and all sorts of personal drama of the stripe I loathe. But the brain-trust there was astounding.


message 1161: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments Oscar O'Shea?


message 1162: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
naw


message 1163: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
to drive home my point re: #93
"He had roles in 200+ films between 1930 and 1946"

That's more than Anthony Quinn.


message 1164: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments Aaaaargh! Ramon Novarro? :>)


message 1165: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
is that an anagram of Ivor Novello?


message 1166: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments His 3rd cousin who changed his name since he didn't want to get mixed up with Ivor.


message 1167: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
it'd take a crowbar to keep them separate, har har


message 1168: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Quiz #97. American. Probably one of the easier challenges in this thread.




message 1169: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments #97 - Vaughn Taylor?


message 1170: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Yes for #97! Did you know him from his numerous appearances on Perry Mason? (That's why I suggested he'd be easy)


message 1171: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments Indeed


message 1172: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
although he's been in so many TV series besides that one, that Jill had a good chance of nailing him too


message 1173: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments Another guess for #93 - Harry Holman?


message 1174: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
nil


message 1175: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments I just missed posting Vaughn Taylor, darn it.I actually knew who he was. But #93 is a killer.


message 1176: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Maybe #93 is one of the Senators in 'Mr Smith Goes to Washington' who rustles his paper angrily as Jimmy Stewart filibusters in the Senate? I don't know but he looks like one of those types that Capra used a lot of

Or maybe he's one of the crowd of adoring, good-hearted Americans who climb to the top of city hall to protest John Doe from throwing himself over the parapet? Could be


message 1177: by Jill (last edited Jul 24, 2020 10:12AM) (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments I looked through the cast list for both of those films and couldn't seem to find anyone who looked like him but may have missed it.

I am going to be gone this afternoon so would you be kind enough not to post another picture until later today. Thanks, even though I am failing badly, I need to become even more desperate trying to make correct guesses.




message 1178: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
I reckon #93 may be one of the most un-credited actors in history. Even more so than Mitchell Lewis.

Its a wonder IMdb doesn't have any easy means of exposing these roles to view.

You're right, he isn't listed in the big Capra flicks I'm citing to you. It's almost as if you have to know his name in order to find him associated with the movie; they're enumerated in his filmography but nowhere else. What a killer trivia challenge!

Tip: when he is mentioned its usually in roles like 'minister', 'justice of the peace', 'judge', 'doctor', 'professor', etc etc etc


message 1179: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
I see he's in one of the Hope/Crosby 'Road To _____' romps...

and in, 'It Happened One Night'...

a Dick Tracy picture as well ...

'Broadway Bill' (another Capra title)

'Mr. Deeds Goes to Town' (can you see the Frank Capra trend here?)

he's in one of the 'Gold Diggers of 193_' movies

and also, 'Mr. Skeffington'...


message 1180: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
in a film career of 200 performances, our man #93 is cast as 'uncredited' in 163 of them. whew!


message 1181: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Quiz #98, British. His heyday is '50s and '60s.



message 1182: by Jill (last edited Jul 24, 2020 06:06PM) (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments #93 - Frank McClure? or Bert Moorehouse?


message 1183: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
naw


message 1184: by Betsy (last edited Jul 25, 2020 11:08AM) (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments #93 - Harry C. Bradley?

If not, I have more to try.


message 1185: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
That's close enough. Three cherries for Betsy! Harry C. Bradley, 1869 - 1947!

Last gasp buzzer basket!


message 1186: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments At last!!! Good job, Betsy. I had a list I was going to try but he wasn't on it. That may be the hardest of the quiz yet.


message 1187: by Betsy (last edited Jul 25, 2020 11:21AM) (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments Sorry about that. I had written his name down wrong because of my arthritis. (Harry looked like Henry.) It's no wonder we had so much trouble because the only pictures I found of him, he must have been 20 years younger. It's certainly one of the hardest and most frustrating!


message 1188: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Bwaahaha. One of the thorniest yet, I agree. And I plucked him at random.

Yep, there's very few pictures of ole Harry. The portraits which turn up are like, tintypes or daguerreotypes from the 1890s, when they still used nitrate and hooded cameras and magnesium flashbars. The guy was born just a generation after the Civil War. Incredible.

Keeping track with pencil and paper when you do your homework for this quizzo! Now that is true 'grit'


message 1189: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments #98 - Right off the top, he looks like Ronnie Barker but I think that is wrong. He popped into my head immediately.


message 1190: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments I think #98 looks like Edward Sinclair to some extent.


message 1191: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
Harry C. Bradley's name will live in infamy thencefor'd


message 1192: by Jill (last edited Jul 25, 2020 08:23PM) (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments He will be right up there with the "Mary Astor affect" and Ivor Novello and his cousin Ramon Novarro! Our Hall of Fame.


message 1193: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Jul 25, 2020 08:49PM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
I can't quite recall the other real difficult ones. The Welshman was one, I vaguely remember. I will splat (asterisk) them in the rankings if you remind me of their difficult-level...

w00t! Only two more challenges until #100 is reached


message 1194: by Jill (last edited Jul 25, 2020 09:29PM) (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments That is a great idea.....mark those ones that were really difficult.

PS.....I went through the lists and the hardest ones were:

Paul Sutton
Dan Riis
Joan Caulfield (which shouldn't have been)
Estelle Taylor


message 1195: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments #98 - I don't really rate this as more than a fifth-rate guess, but I love his name - Alfie Bass?


message 1196: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments I guess that Ronnie Barker, Edward Sinclair, and Alfie Bass are all misses.


message 1197: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
When I review the past challenges I recall more tussles than you've named above. There were names that took days upon days to solve.

These ones:
#1 Zachary Scott (very dark photo)
#5 Wallace Ford
#17 Guy Thomajan ('Panic in the Streets')
#18 Dan Riss ('Panic in the Streets')
#21 Michael O'Shea (Irishman)
#28 Joan Caulfield
#53 Raymond Huntley (Ealing player)
#54 John Boxer ('uncredited officer' type)
#55 Percy Walsh (in 'Pimpernel Smith')
#60 Alan Wheatley (Sheriff of Nottingham)
# 63 Hugh Williams (Welsh idol)
# 66 Susannah Foster (Phantom of the Opera '43)
# 69 Estelle Taylor (silent-era beauty)
#89 Mitchell Lewis (from 'Wizard of Oz')


Some others were pretty bad too, but these I recall as causing particular vexation.

Anyway, bravo! Quite a feat!


message 1198: by Jill (new)

Jill Hutchinson (bucs1960) | 3890 comments I guess I did leave out a few. You have done a great job finding people that we can trace down but it really takes a while sometimes.


message 1199: by Betsy (last edited Jul 27, 2020 02:59PM) (new)

Betsy | 3472 comments Since we did not get a reply to Jill's 1196, would you favor us with another clue or two for #98?


message 1200: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3637 comments Mod
gonna be busy today; won't be able to post new clues or pics until I get a bunch of stuff taken care of ...


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