Fool's Assassin [Aug 15, 2020]

[Katie]

Siobhan wrote: "Katie wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "@ Katie Chapter 5 Great quote, I also love when ..."

Those moments were so great

Anni and Katie I..."

Right? I mean that doesn't bode well if that's the case. (view spoiler)[Does that mean the Fool is dead and another prophet is being born? Or is the baby just some kind of connection to that bond of Prophet and Catalyst? So many questions. (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

Up to chapter 7 now. It looks like our theories may infact be right. (view spoiler)[In that the next Prophet may be Fitz's child. That would make a lot of sense in what you are saying Barry! If the messenger was to warn Fitz. Or even if it was the Fool theirselves. I don't know about the later though. I feel like they have some pretty distinct features. And upon hearing them Fitz should have caught on...at least I would think.

So do we think that the baby is a little sponge to the Wit & Skill? She seems to cry every time she is surrounded by it. hmmm... Maybe that's why she doesn't look at them too?

And what was of that skill dream?? Of the Fool's past? :( Children can be awful. (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

Chapter 10
(view spoiler)[Oh my goodness you guys. How heartbreaking T_T It all happened so fast in the garden. Oh poor Bee. Poor Fitz :'(

He lost Nighteyes, Molly, and countless others before. I just hope he can find love for his daughter. Even though it is difficult. He just does not understand her quite yet. She doesn't hate him. She is super sensitive to his magics.

Also, having that chapter written in her perspective was super interesting. I had to start over, because i was at a loss at first. lol. But yes. It was horrible what those kids put her through. I'm glad that one groundskeeper was able to help her <3 Such a smart little girl. Scared of being different >_< (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

Chapter 13
I'm really enjoying the passages (view spoiler)[where Bee is finally opening up to Fitz. Now that he understands she is far more clever than initially thought. And that she is very in tune to the skill. They're trying to get back to the routine of things >_<

Showing her that secret passage was so precious. I can only imagine how excited she must have been to find a space her size where no one could hurt her. It was just heartbreaking when she became lost in the dark T_T

So Chade has another Farseer on his hands, huh? Shun? Okay, my initial thoughts were she is Chade's bastard. But now I'm thinking....of a noble family....no siblings and only nieces.....what if she is Fitz's child O.o When Fitz and Starling were a thing?! Starling was close with Chade....so he would help her out...and she is a noble now. I don't know if the age would add up....I can't remember how long its been. I also know she thought she couldn't have kids...but what if she did? Wouldn't that be something though?

Also, I was devastated that Fitz was looking to his mentor for comfort. The old man only called him because he needed him. Blah.

"When we are children, we believe that our elders know all and that even when we cannot understand the world, they can make sense of it. Even after we are grown, in moments of fear, or sorrow, we still turn instinctively to the older generation, hoping to finally learn some great hidden lesson about death and pain. Only to learn instead that the only lesson is that life goes on." ~pg333 (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

Re Chapter 15: "Wow! That's actually a great theory! (view spoiler)[ I also immediately asumed shw must be Chade's daughter but your absolutely right, she could as well be Fitz' daughter. I read the other books a long time ago, tho, so I can't remember exactly what happened to Sterling other than that she found herself a wealthy man and that they had a a bit of a falling-out.
But character-wise she could totally be Sterling's daughter... (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 15 (view spoiler)[ I really liked Bee's words on Shun, really well said! As she came back trying to distract Shun, while Fitz was trying to help the white messenger, she said something like: "Why did you brought her to help? She can't do anything" ... So right and sadly on the other hand so weong, as she's able to bring a lot of trouble...

Later she also said that it was sad what happened to Shun, but she couldn't bring herself to feel sorry, because of the way she told her story. And I couldn't agree more, she's so frustrating and self-centered (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

Sir Anni wrote: "Re Chapter 13: "Wow! That's actually a great theory! ..."

Right??!!! I got so excited when I thought of it. It would kinda make sense. But who knows XD

[Siobhan]

Katie wrote: "Chapter 13
I'm really enjoying ..."

I really enjoyed those parts too, Katie! Warmed my heart so much.

[Siobhan]

Sir Anni wrote: "Re Chapter 15: "..."

Totally agree on Shun, Anni!

[Katie]

Okay. So this is gonna be a sorta long post because I haven’t commented for a while on these chapters. And I can’t recall when everything happened. So I’ll say that all of these thoughts are up until Chapter 22

(view spoiler)[I commented in my status already. But gosh. Fitz is being given all of the children to care for, isn’t he? Nettle, Shun, and now the Fool’s son???

Poor Bee. Poor Fitz. Her father is becoming an assassin again and she can only see glimpses. I’m glad he gave the messenger mercy. But what had she done to get such a death? Who had she betrayed?

Shun woke into the mid of the night. I really wanna assume it’s because of the cat stuck in the walls. lol. We shall see.

Omg yes! Love it. Lol. It’s the thirsty cat XD

And now he’s taking in Fitz Vigilant? Jeez. Family is absolutely horrendous to their bastard born children >_<

I love how jealous Bee is of Shun. The attention she now wants from her father is being given to this stranger. It’s cute and accurate for someone of her age. Also Shun is so rude for thinking her pain is more than Bee’s >_<

Love how this is finally brought up between Chade and Fitz. Yes, I’m never gonna stop calling him Fitz XD

“Are you sure that you have not overestimated my ability to shepherd these lost lambs you’re sending me? Not at all. I regard your ability as a second only to my own.” page 437

Fitz has way too much on his plate I fear. With all of this new help...and talks of hunters and assassins...I would not be surprised if one of the new hires was malicious in intent.

Bee remembers FitzVigilant from when she was a child?!?

Oh Shun dear. It’s always been the Yellow Suite. You can’t paint it!! Lol

Revel is such a champ. Love this guy. Keeping the estate in ship shape order <3

I haven’t really liked Nettle in this book so far. Mostly due to her seemingly brash attitude. But good on her for talking to Fitz like that at the end of the chapter. He isn’t the only one in pain. He should be with his daughter more. And care for her. Nettle is right there. (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

Shun is so self-centered, you guys are right, XD

[Siobhan]

Katie wrote: "Okay. So this is gonna be a sorta long post because I haven’t commented for a while on these chapters. And I can’t recall when everything happened. So I’ll say that all of these thoughts are up unt..."

Love all these thoughts!! Like a stream of consciousness lol. I totally knew what you meant for all of them 😅

[Anni]

Katie wrote: "Okay. So this is gonna be a sorta long post because I haven’t commented for a while on these chapters. And I can’t recall when everything happened. So I’ll say that all of these thoughts are up unt..."

Haha, well said Katie and I agree completely! I reached the same point on Monday and then I couldn't stop because it was sooo good! So I finished by now and I'm so excited! The first time around I gave the book only 4 stars but bumped irt up to 5 stars now.

I hadn't written down any notes (shame on me!) But I'll of course stay to discuss and even comment further on a few scenes, but sadly I'm way too tired right now to think and write comprehensibly... Good night :D

[Katie]

I'm glad you all liked my jumble of thoughts as I read through all of those chapters XD

I totally agree with you Anni! There's just a point where you can't stop! So good! I'm glad to hear your re-read is a good one for this book ^^

Rest up! We'll be here to discuss it all! I'm going to keep on reading and try to catch up before the next BR XD

[Katie]

Oh my gosh you guys. Like. Oof. So many feels right now after finishing this book...just...oof...

Spoilers for End of Book
(view spoiler)[I can't even begin to process right now what happened in all of those last few chapters. My heart raced with Bee and Perserverance as they tried to make their escape from the manor. I'm so proud of our little girl Bee. Putting on such a brave face to save those children who had once treated her so poorly. And Perserverance just being the best little boy in her life, keeping her safe, and trying to get help <3 My word

So these people must be the ones the Fool spoke of. The servants? They were looking for a boy this whole time, but it was Bee? Maybe they had seen visions with the short hair and thought her a boy?

I mean I had suspected Bee being a white prophet...but the Fool's son!

I was shocked. Utterly shocked when it ended up being him at the market. I assumed...I mean all of that vision stuff was odd. And it would make sense. But he appeared so different. So beaten >_<

God damn it Fitz. There are more ways to incapacitate a person than to just kill them! You just had to stab the Fool >_<

I can't believe it though. He's really back.

I'm so glad Riddle is alright though. Him and Nettle are really good for one another <3

Gosh I'm all over the place here....but I kinda feel bad for FitzVigilant. He's dead?! I mean I was really really hating him in the last few chapters. By how he treated Bee and acted towards Fitz. Maybe it's the teen know - it - all attitudes, but those two (Shun too) were really getting on my nerves.

I thought the end of this book was going to be a happy winterfest. Fitz saving those poor puppies. ((oh my gosh that was horrid. What a terrible person that was. I'm so glad fitz was there. oh my gosh. Hobb really doesn't stray from animal cruelity, does she?)) Bee getting her own animal. And everyone to be happy.

But no. Fitz and the Fool are reunited, but Bee is now stolen away, Per is bleeding out hidden on the snow ((such a clever idea to use the cloak, I kept wondering when she would use it :'( )) , people of the withywoods are trapped inside , Revel and Lant dead ((I"m so soos soooo upset Revel died. I almost cried there T_T )) It's just. Ughhhh Hobbbbbbbb. Whyyyyy???? T_T (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

Also I have to say that (view spoiler)[those moments with Night Eyes / Wolf Father were so so heartbreaking/heartwarming for me. My goodness <3 (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

@ replies for ending spoilers
(view spoiler)[Just read everyone's thoughts. Seems like we were in the same mindset for a lot of it >_<

I'm mostly worried that you all think this series will end in the death of Fitz!!! I mean....I had thought....but oh no....I'm not ready for that conclusions :( (hide spoiler)]

[Siobhan]

Just realised I don't think I wrote any ending thoughts! Was obviously too busy crying. 🙃

Honestly Katie I couldn't put it better. (view spoiler)[ The last few chapters were so dramatic!!
The puppies, the Fool, them going through the skill towers and I think they're gonna save the Fool and all is well, then those bastards turn up to take Bee and kill poor Revel :'( I loved him so much! Lant dying was a shame too, I thought we'd see more development to his character. Poor Per!! I really hope he survives but I can't see how :'( Did Shun die? I can't remember, wish they'd took her instead...

I can't cope if Fitz and the Fool die in this series. Please please let them just go into retirement to end their days in peace!! ❤️ (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

Agreed! (view spoiler)[ It was a true rollercoaster!

To be honest Fitz-Vigilant's death didn't hit me really hard, yeah, it would have been nice to see him grow as a person... But I wasn't overly fond of him. Also are we sure he is dead? We only see him lying on the ground and Bee couldn't "feel" him. But what if he was more than he appeared to be, if he processed a bit of the skill as well, he maybe could habe raised his walls and play dead.

On the other hand Revel's death hit me pretty hard :( He was such a caring person, the way he was there for Molly when everyone thought her crazy and also for Bee :( Sooo sad! Bee didn't even had the chance to give him her presents.

I don't think Shun died, but I don't think we know. Bee used her screening and wailing as a distraction to escape and run to Per.
Speaking of Per, I really, really don't want him to die :( He's such a good friend to Bee and I loved how he said that he only beat that bully boy after he spoke ill of his sister. Bee didn't realized, but I'm sure he meant her! Awww! :) I hope he'll honors his name and stubbornly go on and help finding Bee!

I'm also so glad Fool is back, even with the state he's in... But I agree with what Barry said before, I understand the plot point, but I don't see Fitz stabbing a blind beggar, just for leaning on Bee. Yeah, he's protective and also trained to kill, but knocking him down or something would have been enough, don't you think?

"I can't cope if Fitz and the Fool die in this series. Please please let them just go into retirement to end their days in peace!! ❤️"

I would love that, but does that sound like something Hobb would do? 😩 (hide spoiler)]

[Siobhan]

Sir Anni wrote: "Agreed! "

Maybe!! She lives to surprise us! 😅😅

(view spoiler)[ You're right I didn't care for FitzVigilant much either. I think he's really dead, he didn't seem to have any aptitude for much at all.

Ah yes that's right, Shun is probably alive then. I think she's more likely to show some Skill eventually if she's Chade's bastard (or another Farseer).

Yeah you're right, Fitz stabbing the beggar was a bit out there. Surely he would just hit him, knock him down or something.

I hope Perseverance perseveres too!! ❤️ (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

@Anni & Siobhan for ending thoughts~
(view spoiler)[I am in total agreement with you both about dear Revel. He didn't deserve to die like that :'( He was such a decent person

Lant just was kind of a selfish kid, so that connection wasn't there when he died. Maybe if we had time to see him grow like you mentioned...but....Still...poor kid

Per has to live! He has to! He was totally defending Bee in that moment, you're right Anni. 3

I really want to see Fitz retire too after all is over...but you're right in that it is Hobbs. Oh no.... >_< (hide spoiler)]

[Katie]

Also, found this art on Pinterest (end spoilers)
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