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I became interested in that book when it first came out, having previously traveled to Croatia after the civil war in Yugoslavia. People there still talked about it and that tourism had not yet picked up again.
Having been told that the characters are not referred to as Serbs or Croats, I was worried that it might be confusing. Is it confusing? Many say the writing is "pretty" , but I also want clarity. This is why I have hesitated.
I am guessing she wrote about this having herself experienced the civil war in Sierra Leone,
In your view, what are the book's weak points? Please explain.


This is hy I figured I had to try the author, she has so many that people praise, Nice to know I have started with your favorite, Did you see any weaknesses in the The Hired Man? It has been my second choice.
Judy wrote: "I have started The Honjin Murders for next month's mod read - enjoying it so far."
That's good news Judy
I'm looking forward to reading it
I've just started RC's top tip from Netgalley
Mayflies (2020) by Andrew O'Hagan
Summer 1986. A close group of friends from Glasgow have finished school, and before they depart for their various new lives, they descend on Manchester for one unforgettable weekend. Their leader, burning brightest of all, is the great Tully Dawson.
2017. London. James - the quieter, bookish member of the group - receives a devastating message from Tully, asking James to accompany him through his final months, and to grant Tully his final wish.
That's good news Judy
I'm looking forward to reading it
I've just started RC's top tip from Netgalley
Mayflies (2020) by Andrew O'Hagan
Summer 1986. A close group of friends from Glasgow have finished school, and before they depart for their various new lives, they descend on Manchester for one unforgettable weekend. Their leader, burning brightest of all, is the great Tully Dawson.
2017. London. James - the quieter, bookish member of the group - receives a devastating message from Tully, asking James to accompany him through his final months, and to grant Tully his final wish.


Chrissie, like Hugh, I thought this started very slowly and it's almost gentle for its topic. I remember that I didn't believe in the narrator (Duro?) or that he'd suddenly tell his story to a family he's just met: the device felt clunky.
There are, of course, important things being told about civil war and its aftermath. For me, though, it felt like the book thought it was a revelation e.g. that former enemies were forced to live as neighbours whereas that's the same in other civil wars even if they don't have that name: Northern Ireland 'Troubles', post-apartheid South Africa, post-Occupation France, Spanish Civil War etc. etc.
I did like the book but it was less powerful than I'd hoped for. But it may be more personal for you as you've been to the area.
There are, of course, important things being told about civil war and its aftermath. For me, though, it felt like the book thought it was a revelation e.g. that former enemies were forced to live as neighbours whereas that's the same in other civil wars even if they don't have that name: Northern Ireland 'Troubles', post-apartheid South Africa, post-Occupation France, Spanish Civil War etc. etc.
I did like the book but it was less powerful than I'd hoped for. But it may be more personal for you as you've been to the area.

The Girl from Venice by Martin Cruz Smith - 3 stars - My Review

The Girl from Venice by Martin Cruz Smith - 3 stars - My Review"
I'm looking forward to the group's November buddy read by this author - Gorky Park

Bless Me, Ultima by Rudolfo Anaya - 4 stars - My Review

My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
Friends have liked this more than me. I found it confusing. Maybe this is a fault in me rather than the book.
I will soon begin The Wayward Bus by John Steinbeck
I've finished The Honjin Murders ready for next month, and have now started Table Two. Looking forward to our discussions of both.

My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I have begun High Adventure A Narrative of Air Fighting in France by James Norman Hall--an American pilot writing of flying in France during the First World War.

My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I have gone back to Émile Zola. I am about to begin The Kill, which is the English translation of the French title La Curée. The book concerns the frenzied hunt for pleasure and money and is a criticism of the French 2nd Empire.
Nigeyb wrote:
"I've just started RC's top tip from Netgalley
Mayflies (2020) by Andrew O'Hagan
Summer 1986. A close group of friends from Glasgow have finished school, and before they depart for their various new lives, they descend on Manchester for one unforgettable weekend. Their leader, burning brightest of all, is the great Tully Dawson.
2017. London. James - the quieter, bookish member of the group - receives a devastating message from Tully, asking James to accompany him through his final months, and to grant Tully his final wish."
And now I've finished
Thanks so much RC - I loved it, loved it, loved it.
Mayflies (2020) by Andrew O'Hagan is a wonderful, heartfelt book about youth, friendship, death, and what it is to be human.
Here’s my review
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"I've just started RC's top tip from Netgalley
Mayflies (2020) by Andrew O'Hagan
Summer 1986. A close group of friends from Glasgow have finished school, and before they depart for their various new lives, they descend on Manchester for one unforgettable weekend. Their leader, burning brightest of all, is the great Tully Dawson.
2017. London. James - the quieter, bookish member of the group - receives a devastating message from Tully, asking James to accompany him through his final months, and to grant Tully his final wish."
And now I've finished
Thanks so much RC - I loved it, loved it, loved it.
Mayflies (2020) by Andrew O'Hagan is a wonderful, heartfelt book about youth, friendship, death, and what it is to be human.
Here’s my review

I'm delighted you loved this, Nigeyb - I thought it was exactly you as I was reading it!
And what a perfect ending to the book, I though O'Hagan got it exactly right.
And what a perfect ending to the book, I though O'Hagan got it exactly right.
Didn't he just? Very, very moving
Thanks so much for thinking of me. I really appreciate it
Next up, I've got another shared read with my 16 year old son. He has chosen...
Station Eleven (2014) by Emily St. John Mandel
I know little about it so will be interested to find out more
It's published by Picador which is usually a good portent
It's also had a degree of acclaim....
Winner of the Arthur C. Clarke Award
Longlisted for the Baileys Women's Prize for Fiction
National Book Awards Finalist
PEN/Faulkner Award Finalist
I'll let you know
Thanks so much for thinking of me. I really appreciate it
Next up, I've got another shared read with my 16 year old son. He has chosen...
Station Eleven (2014) by Emily St. John Mandel
I know little about it so will be interested to find out more
It's published by Picador which is usually a good portent
It's also had a degree of acclaim....
Winner of the Arthur C. Clarke Award
Longlisted for the Baileys Women's Prize for Fiction
National Book Awards Finalist
PEN/Faulkner Award Finalist
I'll let you know


I have begun The Sandcastle by Iris Murdoch. The beach on its cover makes me think it appropriate for the season, and Murdoch has become one of my favorite authors..

Station Eleven (2014) by Emily St. John Mandel."
I've had this one on my library list for years having heard good things of it, but it's not one of my go to genres, so it hasn't got any further than a virtual list. I'll be interested to see what you make of it.

Next up, I've got another shared read with my 16 year old son. He has chosen Station Eleven...
I read that a few years ago. I'm not quite sure why it was nominated for/won quite so many awards, but it was skilfully put together and an enjoyable read.

Themes include belonging, independence, dealing with change, and the joys of living a simple life. Berry advocates stewardship of the earth and compassion for its inhabitants. I enjoyed spending time in Port William and found this book delightful.
Jayber Crow by Wendell Berry - 4 stars - My Review

Themes include belonging, independence, dealing with change, and the joys of living a simple life. Berry advocates stewardship of the earth a..."
I gave that one by Berry four stars too. Now you havet o read The Memory of Old Jack.another very good one by the author.
I've just finished....
Who Owns England? by Guy Shrubsole
A fascinating investigation into land and property ownership in England
Here’s my review
5/5
Who Owns England? by Guy Shrubsole
A fascinating investigation into land and property ownership in England
Here’s my review
5/5


Midnight in Chernobyl: The Untold Story of the World's Greatest Nuclear Disaster by Adam Higginbotham - 4 stars - My Review

My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I have begun The Siege of Krishnapur by J.G. Farrell. The impression I am getting is that it is a satire . Am I off? Am I right? Please help me--those who have read it! I wasn't expecting a satire.

There is certainly a vein of dark humour running through it, and I guess you could say that the depiction of the British is satirical, especially at the beginning. But I think there is more to it than just a satire.


There is certainly a vein of dark humour running through it, and I guess you could sa..."
Well, I am now at the start, so I guess i have interpreted it correctly. Thank you for telling me.

I say this because clearly we are to be laughing AT, or in other words, critical of the characters' behavior. I have just begun. Maybe the tone will change. Pamela says it does.



It is so interesting how we have different reactions to books, isn't it? I have not read all the trilogy, but I did read The Siege some years ago and remember being impressed by it.

Interesting that this subjugation of peoples would have an element of farce.
I've had these books on my radar but did wonder how I'd react to these serious topics being treated with an element of farce - so haven't read Farrell yet.

Do the three books need to be read in order? I mean, are they just linked thematically or are there characters or families who appear across them?

No, they do not need to be read in order. They are in different countries and different time periods, although the Ireland and Singapore ones are not too far apart. No recurring characters.
I did read them in order, as I thought maybe one should. On reflection, I'd say I should have been surprised that the writing style was already firmly developed in Troubles, so that you don't even think that was somewhat uneven as first novels are and that his writing style improved.


Shows how much I noticed. But in my defense, I read those two more than 15 months apart (and 5 years ago).
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Perhaps one of our differences in reaction, Chrissie, is that you're listening to someone who interpreted it as satirical, and therefore put that into his reading."
Yes, audiobooks do insert another's interpretation, mediating the book. I had to abandon an audiobook recently because the reading was so different from mine, though I can't remember which book it was.
I also had to stop listening to something very English (Hardy?) because it was read by someone with an incredibly strong American accent - Texan, possibly!
Yes, audiobooks do insert another's interpretation, mediating the book. I had to abandon an audiobook recently because the reading was so different from mine, though I can't remember which book it was.
I also had to stop listening to something very English (Hardy?) because it was read by someone with an incredibly strong American accent - Texan, possibly!

Ha! We've talked about that before. I think it was in the context of reading Elizabeth Bowen without an English accent. As to Hardy, or Trollope for that matter, I can only 'hear' my own pronunciation of English and I can understand how that would be disconcerting to the British. But I don't want to hear Texan either. ;-)

I do not believe so. If a listener consciously thinks about every word it is possible to ignore the audiobook narrator's interpretation. It takes an effort but I am willing to do this because I do not have the possibility of picking up the print version, as you know, because of poor eyesight. I enjoy doing this because for me it is a pleasure to analyze prose.
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