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message 1051: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) That was my third Faulkner. It is more like his reputation in terms of difficulty for the reader. My review includes: Faulkner is at once simple and complex. The people are simple: their motivations not necessarily so and sometimes Faulkner makes up words, or uses words that are familiar only to these back country people. His sentence construction is sometimes non-existent, but the thought processes are more easily understood.

I am amused at the "his sentence structure is sometimes non-existent" - I do remember having to take my time with this. I'm not trying to put you off. If you're going to experience more than one Faulkner, this should be one of them. I should note that I have not yet read Absalom, Absalom!. And why not, I should ask.


message 1052: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12068 comments Mod
Thanks, Elizabeth, you're certainly not putting me off, rather the opposite as I'm getting more curious to see how I respond to Faulkner.


message 1053: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) I look forward to hearing about your journey!


message 1054: by Tania (new)

Tania | 1240 comments I finished Memoirs of a Fox-Hunting Man by Siegfried Sassoon and would like to get hold of Memoirs of an Infantry Officer soon.infantry
For now, I've started Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day by Winifred Watson for another group. Love the Illustrations in this one.


message 1055: by Chrissie (last edited Jul 01, 2020 10:40AM) (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Iris Murdoch has become my latest favorite author. Here is another really, really good book by her-- The Black Prince.

My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

I have begun Mr. Loverman by Bernardine Evaristo. The writing is good, but I have not come very far yet. Several of you have mentioned Evaristo as being a good author.


message 1056: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 10 comments Published in 1996 and set mostly in 1951, this hidden gem is a light and fun historical fiction about time traveling back to the days of Hank Williams:

Carry Me Back by Laura Watt - 4 stars - My Review


message 1057: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) Joy D wrote: "Published in 1996 and set mostly in 1951, this hidden gem is a light and fun historical fiction about time traveling back to the days of Hank Williams:"

Back to my childhood.


message 1058: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Bernardine Evaristo is a contemporary author to keep an eye on. I enjoyed Mr. Loverman, except for the ending.

My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

I am testing now another contemporary author--Graham Swift. The book chosen is Waterland.


message 1059: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) I hope you like Graham Swift, Chrissie. I liked Waterland, but it is not a happy book.


message 1060: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 802 comments I really liked Waterland, but two friends I lent it to couldn't get on with it


message 1061: by Judy (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 4841 comments Mod
I liked Waterland a lot too, but definitely quite disturbing. The film with Jeremy Irons was also good, as I recall.


message 1062: by Chrissie (last edited Jul 03, 2020 09:18AM) (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Waterland has definitely captured my interest. You must pay attention, the way it jumps around in time doesn't make it simple to follow. I am not lost, no yet at least. I like the prose. It plays with ideas in ways that I like, on example being that stars are bits of heaven.

Sounds promising, since many of you have liked it.

I don't mind disturbing books. I prefer them over unrealistic fluff.


message 1063: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12068 comments Mod
I also liked Waterland and still vividly remember one scene... which I won't mention for fear of spoilers. But I've never fancied any of Swift's other books.


message 1064: by Val (new)

Val | 1707 comments Waterland is on my to-read list and I have read a couple of other Swift books, so perhaps I should move it up the priority list.
I have been finishing off some of my part-read short story collections and reading some of the books I downloaded to my original kindle. (The battery won't charge, so I had stopped using it.) There is not anything I would really recommend, but it has kept me going until the libraries reopen.
Southampton have now published their plans; they are doing click and collect only from Monday until the end of the month, but that means I can collect those of my reservations which were not out on loan to someone else.


message 1065: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments I do like Waterland, but tell me what is the advantage of jerking back and forth in time in the telling of a story?! This has become so popular nowadays!

Am I the only one to note the satire?

It is pretty easy to see the connection between the drowning and the thread describing the historical development in the Fens--the brewery and the shipping.


message 1066: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 789 comments I read Waterland years ago but don't remember it clearly enough to comment, though I know I liked it. Have read several other Swift novels too, mostly before I joined GR


message 1067: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15941 comments Mod
I was a little underwhelmed by Waterland


Here’s my review

Chrissie wrote: "I do like Waterland, but tell me what is the advantage of jerking back and forth in time in the telling of a story?! This has become so popular nowadays!"

Ah yes, the old non-linear narrative.

Perhaps it mirrors the water running in different directions?

Perhaps Swift thought it was a more interesting way of telling the stories?

Either way, it was something I struggled with. As I say in my review...

Sometimes, when I picked this up, I thought how good it was, however it never truly grabbed me: the non linear structure, multiple narratives, and contrasting styles, were ultimately too jarring.


message 1068: by Chrissie (last edited Jul 04, 2020 03:58AM) (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Nigeyb wrote: "I was a little underwhelmed by Waterland


Here’s my review

Chrissie wrote: "I do like Waterland, but tell me what is the advantage of jerking back and forth in time in..."


I don't want to read your review until AFTER I have completed it and written my own review. I like to see what I think uninfluenced by what others say.

But I liked your statement--"Perhaps it mirrors the water running in different directions?"


message 1069: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) I loved this, as I’ve said and it’s non-linear ness. The opening paragraph speaks to history. Telling history is not linear. We are in the present and our memories jump around.

My Review


message 1071: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15941 comments Mod
Extraordinary Hugh - thanks


message 1072: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12068 comments Mod
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Telling history is not linear. We are in the present and our memories jump around."

I'd agree with this and also Nigeyb's point about the flow of water.

Cultural theory connected to modernism and post-modernism also engages with these ideas of fragmented narratives and the operation of memory. It's partly a response to the linearity of nineteenth century narratives.

I heartily agree with Chrissie's original point that it's so over-used as a storytelling technique now in everything from lit fic to throwaway airport thrillers.


message 1073: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: " Telling history is not linear. We are in the present and our memories jump around.
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Elizabeth, that makes sense to me. Good explanation.


message 1074: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) Roman Clodia wrote: "I heartily agree with Chrissie's original point that it's so over-used as a storytelling technique now in everything from lit fic to throwaway airport thrillers.
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I agree that sometimes the method is just a gimmick. But I also think that sometimes it is the best way of telling the story.


message 1075: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12068 comments Mod
Yes, it can be the best way to tell a particular story - just sometimes I feel it's a knee-jerk reaction from authors who haven't really thought about alternatives. I'm thinking especially of popular domestic noir and similar - I've had to stop reading them out of irritation!


message 1076: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 10 comments Published in 1986 and set in 1948-1950 in Japan, this book is a deep character study of a retired artist. Themes include conflict avoidance, differences in generations, the desire for a meaningful life, and how memories are altered over time to conform to one’s self-concept.

An Artist of the Floating World by Kazuo Ishiguro - 4 stars - My Review


message 1077: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14251 comments Mod
I just finished, and loved, this months buddy read The Death of the Heart The Death of the Heart by Elizabeth Bowen I was not sure I could love Elizabeth Bowen but this novel made me determined to read all of her novels that I haven't yet read.

I have just embarked on an interesting looking NetGalley book, The Quickening by Rhiannon Ward The Quickening


message 1078: by Chrissie (last edited Jul 05, 2020 01:08AM) (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Susan wrote: "I just finished, and loved, this months buddy read The Death of the Heart The Death of the Heart by Elizabeth Bowen I was not sure I could love Elizabeth Bowen but ..."

I liked that one by Bowen a lot too--excellent prose and characters that live and breathe . The others I have read by her have not been as good.


message 1079: by Susan (new)

Susan | 14251 comments Mod
I am a huge Bowen fan and have enjoyed all the books I have read by her so far. The Death of the Heart was fabulous though - a bit special and I am pleased I have read it.


message 1080: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments RC and Elizabeth, I am approaching the end of Waterland. My appreciation of it grows the further I go. I agree that the nonlinear telling is remarkably well done by Swift,


message 1081: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12068 comments Mod
Susan, delighted to hear you loved the Bowen! I'll be getting to it very soon. I do think she's very good at getting into the head of young women and their first ventures into the world.


message 1082: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12068 comments Mod
Chrissie wrote: "RC and Elizabeth, I am approaching the end of Waterland. My appreciation of it grows the further I go. I agree that the nonlinear telling is remarkably well done by Swift,"

Oh good - looking forward to your review :)


message 1083: by Judy (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 4841 comments Mod
Chrissie, I also remember really liking Last Orders by Graham Swift - I must have read it pre Goodreads.


message 1084: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Roman Clodia wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "RC and Elizabeth, I am approaching the end of Waterland. My appreciation of it grows the further I go. I agree that the nonlinear telling is remarkably well done by S..."

I don't know how to write a review. I liked it a lot so I know I must give it four stars. I have to figure out WHY I have enjoyed it so much. I don't really understand my reaction.


message 1085: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Judy wrote: "Chrissie, I also remember really liking Last Orders by Graham Swift - I must have read it pre Goodreads."

I have added that now to my wish-list. Isn't that what he got a Booker for?


message 1086: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) Judy wrote: "Chrissie, I also remember really liking Last Orders by Graham Swift - I must have read it pre Goodreads."

That is the other by Swift that I have read. I thought I had read more - it must just be that I'm planning to read more.


message 1087: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) Chrissie wrote: "Judy wrote: "Chrissie, I also remember really liking Last Orders by Graham Swift - I must have read it pre Goodreads."

I have added that now to my wish-list. Isn't that w..."


Yes, and that book also won the James Tait Black Memorial Prize.


message 1088: by Jill (last edited Jul 05, 2020 09:40AM) (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 802 comments I think I was just about to read Last Orders when they put the film on the TV , so I put it off and forgot about it


message 1089: by Joy D (last edited Jul 05, 2020 10:56AM) (new)

Joy D | 10 comments Published in 1993 and set in Louisiana in 1947, a teacher is asked to counsel a condemned man before he dies for a crime he did not commit. The story shows the struggles of the black community living in the era of Jim Crow laws and segregation. It brings them to a personal level, showing how difficult it is to live with dignity in the shadow of racism. Grant has no desire to attempt to “teach” moral knowledge, but he does it out of courtesy to his aunt and her friend. Initially there is little response from Jefferson but in the end, they both learn “a lesson before dying.” The tone is mostly bleak, but somehow the author ends it with a tiny ray of hope, and this is no small feat considering the subject matter. It is a powerful and emotional story.

A Lesson Before Dying by Ernest J.Gaines - 4 stars - My Review


message 1090: by Chrissie (last edited Jul 05, 2020 12:55PM) (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Here is a contemporary author I like a lot--Graham Swift. I think you should read Waterland. Many, but not al,l here in this group have liked it.

My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

I have begun Gorillas in the Mist by Dian Fossey. I wonder if it will say something about her murder. It is her extended fieldwork with the gorillas that interests me most.


message 1091: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Chrissie wrote: "Judy wrote: "Chrissie, I also remember really liking Last Orders by Graham Swift - I must have read it pre Goodreads."

I have added that now to my wish-l..."


Sounds promising.


message 1092: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Joy D wrote: "Published in 1993 and set in Louisiana in 1947, a teacher is asked to counsel a condemned man before he dies for a crime he did not commit. The story shows the struggles of the black community livi..."

I found that a very emotive book. I gave it four too!


message 1093: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 12068 comments Mod
I finished the disappointing Face It, an autobiography by Debbie Harry, and have just started listening to the audiobook Widow Basquiat.

Coincidentally, Debbie Harry was the first to buy one of Basquiat's paintings, and he played a DJ in one of her films.

So with these and On The Road, I'm having a counter-cultural moment!


message 1094: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 10 comments Published in 1988 by a Brazilian author:

The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho - 3 stars - My Review


message 1095: by Chrissie (new)

Chrissie | 1869 comments Joy D wrote: "Published in 1988 by a Brazilian author:

The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho - 3 stars - My Review"


I never understood he that got to be so popular!


message 1096: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 10 comments Published in 1991 and set in 1917, I found myself totally immersed in this marvelous book about a psychiatrist and his patients suffering from PTSD:

Regeneration by Pat Barker - 5 stars - My Review


message 1097: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 10 comments Chrissie wrote: "I never understood he that got to be so popular!"

This was the first book I had read by Coelho. It didn't inspire me to read more, but if anyone has a suggestion for one they really enjoyed, I will give it a try.


message 1098: by Nigeyb (new)

Nigeyb | 15941 comments Mod
Joy D wrote: "Published in 1991 and set in 1917, I found myself totally immersed in this marvelous book about a psychiatrist and his patients suffering from PTSD: Regeneration"

Regeneration is a splendid read


message 1099: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) Nigeyb wrote: "Joy D wrote: "Published in 1991 and set in 1917, I found myself totally immersed in this marvelous book about a psychiatrist and his patients suffering from PTSD: Regeneration"

Regeneration is a splendid read"


Yes. I think this was my first by Pat Barker, surely couldn't have started in a better place. As one with an interest in all things WWI, I learned a lot from this novel and the others in the series as well.


message 1100: by Jan C (new)

Jan C (woeisme) | 1655 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Nigeyb wrote: "Joy D wrote: "Published in 1991 and set in 1917, I found myself totally immersed in this marvelous book about a psychiatrist and his patients suffering from PTSD: [book:Regeneration|..."

I think I'm still reading it - lost somewhere on my kindle.


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