Reading the 20th Century discussion
Archive
>
What books are you reading now? (2020)
message 651:
by
Judy
(new)
May 01, 2020 12:52AM

reply
|
flag

I also (tonight) discovered that Terence Davies made a film of the novel starring Gillian Anderson (from 2000). Sounds like a good romp after finishing the novel, don't you think?

I've enjoyed others of hers and really should make the time to read more. Perhaps I'll pick up 'House of Mirth' soon.

I've enjoyed others of hers and really should make the time to read ..."
Ah, Tania, you just reminded me that Wharton has tons of short stories as well. I was not at all familiar with Xingu .Hmm, this will last for a while. At least the social quarantine helps with reading habits.....


Thank you ! :)
I'm also a Wharton fan and read her The Custom of the Country a few months back. It's different in tone from The House of Mirth which I love, but I'd recommend it highly.

I've enjoyed others of hers and really should make the..."
You can get Xingu free on the net here: http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-sto...

How does Wharton succeed in making readers interested in a character that is SO unpleasant? I am worried I will get fed up.
Haaze wrote: "I also (tonight) discovered that Terence Davies made a film of the novel starring Gillian Anderson (from 2000). Sounds like a good romp after finishing the novel, don't you think? ..."
The film is excellent - I would like to see it again some time.
The film is excellent - I would like to see it again some time.

Well, I'm not a reader who has to like characters to be interested in a book so it wasn't a problem for me. I'd say that Wharton is casting a prescient and disenchanted eye over American consumerist culture that is all about exteriority, social status, money and possessions - everything, it seems is available to be bought and sold, and Undine is the result. In that sense, even though it was written a hundred years ago, it feels very modern.

Neither do I have to like the characters to like the book. The problem for me in Mirth was that I failed to have any emotional response to the characters until the very end, by which time I almost didn't care.
I don't know if in the UK you have the phrase "keeping up with the Joneses". It means simply conspicuous consumption. Edith Wharton was born of the Jones family that was so wealthy it spawned that phrase. She knew the wealthy elite of New York well.

I did like The Custom of the Country. The shallowness of Undine is presented differently, I think, than that of Lily Bart. I complain when authors give us only one-dimensional characters. In this case, it is because the character is truly one-dimensional and Wharton presents her perfectly.

I see your point. I don't usually need to like the characters in a story but it does help if there is a side figure that counteracts the negative ones. So you don't explode, I think Undine will irritate me tremendously.
Oh sorry for the confusion, my comment was in response to Chrissie #659 on Undine Spragg in The Custom of the Country.
I love Lily Bart and I certainly saw her as far more than ' brainless' - in fact, I saw that as her tragedy. If she had been stupid, she could have simply fallen in with the frivolous superficial values of her set. It's her cleverness and sense of something beyond the commercial that prevents her from doing that and from selling herself in marriage.
Yes, we do have 'keeping up with the Joneses- - I always thought it was English! Wharton may certainly have been of the wealthy elite but she doesn't endorse their values or way of life in her novels, in my view.
I love Lily Bart and I certainly saw her as far more than ' brainless' - in fact, I saw that as her tragedy. If she had been stupid, she could have simply fallen in with the frivolous superficial values of her set. It's her cleverness and sense of something beyond the commercial that prevents her from doing that and from selling herself in marriage.
Yes, we do have 'keeping up with the Joneses- - I always thought it was English! Wharton may certainly have been of the wealthy elite but she doesn't endorse their values or way of life in her novels, in my view.
Chrissie wrote: "So you don't explode, I think Undine will irritate me tremendously."
Haha, Undine is breathtaking in her vanity, materialism and inability to understand why she's still not happy no matter how many husbands, pearl necklaces or designer dresses she has. I can see why a reader may find that irritating - but that's sort of the point of the book :)
Haha, Undine is breathtaking in her vanity, materialism and inability to understand why she's still not happy no matter how many husbands, pearl necklaces or designer dresses she has. I can see why a reader may find that irritating - but that's sort of the point of the book :)

I thought the whole point was that if she'd had any money that was exactly what she would have done. But she didn't have any money and she couldn't keep up. She was cut because of it.

Not at all. The book was 4-stars for me.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I thought the whole point was that if she'd had any money that was exactly what she would have done. But she didn't have any money and she couldn't keep up. She was cut because of it."
But she had men wanting to marry her despite her not being wealthy: the transaction, that she resists, is her beauty for their wealth.
She falls in love with the penniless man whose name I don't recall but they both agree they can't marry because neither has any money and it wasn't the done thing to go and get a job. Even though, at the end, that's exactly what Lily does - she goes out to work.
For me, the tension was that she'd been brought up to value wealth and all the lovely things that money can buy, and had been told that female beauty was currency, but that she's also smart enough to see through the traps that creates, especially for women. This schism in her soul is what the book was about for me.
But she had men wanting to marry her despite her not being wealthy: the transaction, that she resists, is her beauty for their wealth.
She falls in love with the penniless man whose name I don't recall but they both agree they can't marry because neither has any money and it wasn't the done thing to go and get a job. Even though, at the end, that's exactly what Lily does - she goes out to work.
For me, the tension was that she'd been brought up to value wealth and all the lovely things that money can buy, and had been told that female beauty was currency, but that she's also smart enough to see through the traps that creates, especially for women. This schism in her soul is what the book was about for me.


The Stone Raft by José Saramago - 4 stars - My Review"
Lovely review, Joy. I have put it on my TBR list. I have wanted to read Jose Saramago for a while.

I was fortunate enough to tour her house and hear all those stories about her life, her marriage, and more. I think it adds a lot to the reading of her work.



My review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I have begun a book about Celts--The Ancient Celts by Barry W. Cunliffe. Where I live many names are written in Celtic. I am curious to learn more about the civilization and its people.

All of the major prizes (and many of the minor and vanity prizes) are listed on individual Goodreads book pages. Awards that are given for an author's achievement are not listed, and that is why you won't see a listing for the Nobel on any book page.
There are several listopia that list books by Nobel laureates. This is one of them.
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/9...

Dillard is such a good author. Are you enjoying it?

Very much. I think it unlikely that I'll try any of her others though, more due to subject than for writing.

Sold on a Monday by Kristina McMorris - 3 stars - My Review

Yeah, you are right, he won it, NOT for this book---BUT the reason for why he got the award does fit the book. That is what I meant but expressed myself poorly.
To make you happy, I have gone up and fixed my original message.

How is this book going? Please share your thought:s.

I will soon begin The Yellow House by Patricia Falvey.


I am finding it amazing, which in a way is surprising because it is effectively a series of linked short stories - and I just finished reading another book structured in this way, Victoria Hislop's Carte Postales From Greece, which I didn't enjoy at all.
Neither book is my usual cup of tea at all but I guess the lockdown is making us all start to work through our To Be Read piles a bit more briskly than we expected and in my case there are a lot of books I bought from charity shops as experiments.
The writing quality of Make Me A City amazes me, especially for a debut writer. Although some if it is quite sad, I keep turning the pages addictively. I am struggling to think what it reminds me of most - in its ironic use of multiple third-person narrators, most unconscious of their own defects, perhaps The Moonstone. With a dash of English Passengers.

Montana 1948 by Larry Watson - 5 stars - My Review

I just started The Glass Bead Game by Herman Hesse. It was first published in 1943 in German. In 1946, Hesse won the Nobel Prize for Literature. I’ve barely started it but think I will like it! I just finished Green Island by Shawna Yang Ryan, which I thought was amazing. So, I was having a hard time finding something equally interesting!

Montana 1948 by Larry Watson - 5 stars - My Review"
Thanks for this. (Not that I need to be adding any more books to my already over-burdened wish list.)

Montana 1948 by Larry Watson - 5 stars - My Review"
I think I read this book back in about 1995. It was borrowed and returned after a train ride and I'd forgotten the plot details, exact title and author but thought it had Montana in the title. I remembered it as well written and capable of being read during a 3 1/2 hour train ride.
I'll have to read it to see if it triggers any memories, so I've ordered a copy. No matter what, it sounds like I will have read a good book.
I'm not reading this (yet) but wondered if anyone has read The Bridge over the Drina
or
Bosnian Chronicle both by Nobel winner Ivo Andrić?





I've read the first. It's amazing. It's beautiful. It is about a bridge but actually about people. And of course the Balkans. I gave it five stars.



I've read The Bridge over the Drina, I liked it a lot. My review .

It's amazing. It's beautiful. It is about a bridge but actually about people. And of course the Balkans. "
I too have read The Bridge over the Drina. While I agree that the book is amazing, there were descriptions of events in the book that I would certainly not call beautiful, though. l did learn a lot from the book and it certainly piqued my interest to learn more about the Balkans.
I gave it 4 stars.

Thanks Chrissie, Pamela and Bryan for your thoughts on Drina - sounds like a book for me based on what you've all said.
Were none of you tempted to go on to Bosnian Chronicle? My understanding is that they're books 1 and 2 in what is loosely a trilogy.
Sadly, they're not on Kindle so difficult to get hold of till bookshops re-open.
Were none of you tempted to go on to Bosnian Chronicle? My understanding is that they're books 1 and 2 in what is loosely a trilogy.
Sadly, they're not on Kindle so difficult to get hold of till bookshops re-open.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I did not especially care for it. There is no story, no characters you can hang your hat on. I gave it 2 stars, yet I remember clearly bits and pieces of it, so maybe it was better than that."
Ah thanks Elizabeth - our posts crossed. Just popping over to read your review now.
Ah thanks Elizabeth - our posts crossed. Just popping over to read your review now.
Books mentioned in this topic
Anna of the Five Towns (other topics)Riceyman Steps: A Novel (other topics)
Anna of the Five Towns (other topics)
Riceyman Steps: A Novel (other topics)
The Namesake (other topics)
More...
Authors mentioned in this topic
P.G. Wodehouse (other topics)Jhumpa Lahiri (other topics)
Arnold Bennett (other topics)
Vladimir Nabokov (other topics)
Arturo Pérez-Reverte (other topics)
More...