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message 551: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments No, no, I didn't get your comment as meant to generate more panic. I just wanted to make clear that I understand this can be dangerous to some people, like elders and inmuno compromised people, but panic is far from helpful. I can see how someone in this situation is certainly concerned and worried, so what is the point of completely terrify them? Sorry if I didn't make my point clear enough.


message 552: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments @Kristie, Lol. I know. I go there from time to time too. :)


message 553: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Sandra wrote: "Sorry if I didn't make my point clear enough. "

Hehe all good! We are both having the same issues :)

Completely agree. I'm just looking forward to a holiday from work ;)


message 554: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59896 comments Shirley wrote: "I've been on the phone for 2 hours so far this morning, trying to find out if my travel insurance for the trip to Norway and Iceland covers cancellation due to corona. But they "appreciate my patie..."

When are you going to Norway, Shirley? I'm going mid August.


message 555: by Shirley (new)

Shirley | 1506 comments So ... here it is. Thanks to insurance wording, I may or may not be covered. The general wording seems to imply that because I bought the insurance well before we'd even heard about corona, I should be covered. However, there is a general exclusion: if your claim arises from, is related to or associated with: » an actual or likely epidemic or pandemic; or the threat of an epidemic or pandemic. That means I wouldn't be covered if corona is classed as an epidemic or pandemic. I asked about what happens in the event of closed borders to the country I am visiting, or leaving from. I was advised that I probably wouldn't be covered but couldn't state categorically, depending on the government wording when closing the border. I have a Premium police with added Cruise Pack, and I'm not covered if the borders are closed.


message 556: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Insurance agencies are arseholes.


message 557: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments That sucks Shirley. Hopefully all will be fine and your cruise will continue as planned.

I think we have a law or something that if the ministry of foreign affairs issues a negative travel advice for a country, you can cancel your trip and are entitled to a full refund. I have no idea though what happens if the agency or organisation you're travelling with decides to cancel flights or trips. I guess every insurance might have slightly different rules for that.


message 558: by Peggy (last edited Feb 28, 2020 01:59AM) (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments ʙᴀsʜ wrote: "The ministry of education in my country is going crazy right now, we were given two weeks of holiday since we caught a few cases of the Corona virus and its like they are punishing us for it, the d..."

That sounds extreme! And a good way to make people even more panicky.. it's interesting to see the differences in how this is handled in different countries.

We had our first confirmed case yesterday (edit: second case was confirmed just now, unrelated), but nothing changes. Health organisations will investigate who this person has been in contact with and depending on the risk and level of contact those people will be quarantained. But there's no closing schools or isolation entire towns. Actually, I read somewhere that with this virus (as opposed to flu) younger people are at a lower risk of getting and spreading it, so closing schools isn't necessary. Also, it's actually discouraged here to wear a face mask (even though many people seem to have bought them) because it's no use if you don't use them properly (which is not as easy as you'd think), and also because they need to be available for doctors etc who actually do need them.

You'd imagine all governments and organizations have the same information and act in line with that, but apparently that's not the case.


message 559: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Peggy wrote: "Actually, I read somewhere that with this virus (as opposed to flu) younger people are at a lower risk of getting and spreading it, so closing schools isn't necessary."

This was mentioned here today too but framed as that this is an observation, and that they need to test it. So while interesting, it's not a conclusion. They need months worth of data to work that out, but is a quirk at the moment.


message 560: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments True, it's all just guessing based on patterns at the moment.


message 561: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Peggy wrote: "True, it's all just guessing based on patterns at the moment."

And that's what we as humans love doing!

but I completely agree. It's amazing all the different takes on things that all our governments are telling us, even though they are getting the same information. Our government is trying to distract from it's own corruption by pushing the virus. Yet, I don't really mind as I said last night. We are really susceptible as an island, so if we plan for the worst and have extra medicine and the like, and just have to give it to pharmacies later as we are okay, awesome.


message 562: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Oh and I haven't forgotten about the corruption.


message 563: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Rusalka wrote: "Oh and I haven't forgotten about the corruption."

At this point is almost like a part time job, but yeah, none of us should forget about corruption.


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uncomfytomato | 265 comments Peggy wrote: "ʙᴀsʜ wrote: "The ministry of education in my country is going crazy right now, we were given two weeks of holiday since we caught a few cases of the Corona virus and its like they are punishing us ..."

Thats because parents were pressuring the ministry of education, At least thats what I heard from a coworker so It was an order by the ministry of health, last time I checked we had 5 confirmed cases and everyone is freaking out.


message 565: by Shirley (new)

Shirley | 1506 comments Janice wrote: "Shirley wrote: "I've been on the phone for 2 hours so far this morning, trying to find out if my travel insurance for the trip to Norway and Iceland covers cancellation due to corona. But they "app..."
I’m going mid-May so we won’t cross paths. Are you cruising?


message 566: by Shirley (new)

Shirley | 1506 comments Rusalka wrote: "Insurance agencies are arseholes."
Couldn’t have said it better myself.


message 567: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Shirley wrote: "Rusalka wrote: "Insurance agencies are arseholes."
Couldn’t have said it better myself."


That said, I really hope you get your holiday!


message 568: by Esther (new)

Esther (nyctale) | 5191 comments Rusalka wrote: "Oh and i took a new job. I wasn't going to tell you all until I signed a contract, but I found out my new boss told the School today, so I guess it's happening even without the contract. I'm going ..."

congrats!


message 569: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59896 comments Shirley wrote: "Janice wrote: "Shirley wrote: "I've been on the phone for 2 hours so far this morning, trying to find out if my travel insurance for the trip to Norway and Iceland covers cancellation due to corona..."

Yes, we're doing a 7 day cruise of the fjords. I land in Iceland on my way to Copenhagen (where we board the cruise), and again on our way home. But we won't spend any time there.


message 570: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11629 comments Rusalka wrote: "My understanding is that there is little understanding at the moment of the incubation period, and therefore how long you are infectious before you exhibit symptoms, so medical advice is a bit all ..."

True Rus. Also the world was recovering from WW1 and many were malnourished and/or recovering from injury. I think we are a better position to deal with this now.

Mam and I are both in the vulnerable population. If there were cases near to us we would take precautions but, as usual, the media is trying to hype things up.

There is one confirmed case in Ireland, in the north.

We are expecting to be hit by storm Jorge tomorrow and I think it will a bad one. The road Pete drives to work is almost under as it is, it's not going to survive another week of rain. It is one of the two main roads into the town, thankfully the other still looks OK but it won't get him there. Most of the back roads are impassable :(


message 571: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Rusalka wrote: "Oh and i took a new job. I wasn't going to tell you all until I signed a contract, but I found out my new boss told the School today, so I guess it's happening even without the contract. I'm going ..."

Congratulations, Rusalka!


message 572: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11629 comments Stupid Jorge!


message 573: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments I think Jorge was the storm you were posting about, Margo. I hope it is not too bad for you.

My daffodils in the front yard are all starting to open, and as I was pulling out of the driveway to go to the library, it started hailing (only raindrop size thankfully, not golf ball size like Rusalka got). It was funny to see it rolling and pelting off of the roof. It is pounding down rain outside now. I am at work on my laptop and even with another floor in the building between me and the roof, I can hear the rain beating on the roof.


message 574: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 18550 comments Jorge hasn't been the worst one here. It did blow the canoe off the roof which made an almighty crash and woke us up. Dennis was definitely the worst for us. No damage nearby to us but a ridiculous amount of water. We've had a storm that has been named every weekend for a month now. It's ridiculous.


message 575: by Saar The Book owl (new)

Saar The Book owl | 2650 comments We've got Jorge yesterday, but it wasn't as bad. The baddest was Ciara, then Dennis and then Ellen.
Just heard there's a second person in Belgium with corona. The first one got cured.


message 576: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19148 comments I'm so excited! Someone put in a little free library down the street from me! I know there are a few in my general area, but this one is just around the corner. I could walk to it. I drive by every time I leave my house and can't wait to stop and see what they have. :)


message 577: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Let us know what you find there Kristie!


message 578: by Saar The Book owl (new)

Saar The Book owl | 2650 comments Oh, that's a great initiative! I'm curious on what you'll find. I have a litle vegetable garden and there's a gardenshed for all of us who rent a vegetable garden there and in the gardenshed there's also a litle free library.


message 579: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19148 comments I will, Peggy!

Oh, that’s a nice location, Saar.

I thought about starting one in my neighborhood, but I’m not on a through street so no one ever drives by. This location is much better. Everyone in the neighborhood drives by it most days.


message 580: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Nice Kristie! Enjoy :D


message 581: by Margo (last edited Mar 06, 2020 07:58AM) (new)

Margo | 11629 comments Sarah wrote: "Jorge hasn't been the worst one here. It did blow up. Dennis was definitely the worst for us. No damage nearby to us but a ridiculous..."

Dennis was definitely the worst here too Sarah but I think the water is only coming down from the mountains now to flood the local roads. Pete has to take a detour to work which adds 15 minutes each way onto his journey.

Coronavirus treat has been raised to critical here. So much for the power of positive thinking LOL The number of cases in Ireland has doubled overnight. OK, that only brings it to 13 but the stats are worrying. If It contuse to spread at that rate.....


message 582: by Renee (new)

Renee (elenarenee) | 1650 comments There has been a coronavirus death not far from me. The person uses the same library as I do. The head of circulation called me to warn me. I doubt books are a vector. But just in case I have told my husb. I am going to be buying my books for a bit. LOL He fell for it. I am so naughty. I really don't think books can carry a virus but I want more books. I can be so greedy.


message 583: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19148 comments lol, Renee! I have a couple of library books at the moment and I was thinking about how many germs are probably on them. I think not sharing books with sick people is a good excuse to buy books right now.


message 584: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Haha Renee!

We have 128 cases now, and the first death. I also had an email from work that everyone has to take their laptop and other necessary things home each day. If the school closes (not likely) or you have to be quarantained but are not sick, at least some of the work can still be done.


message 585: by Saar The Book owl (new)

Saar The Book owl | 2650 comments Haha, Renee, that's a good excuse! I don't know how many sick people we have, but I think it's near 70 or so. I work at a hopsital and they're finally taking precoutions. The handgel is already out and they ordered new one.


message 586: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11261 comments Loved your excuse, Renee! :)


message 587: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11629 comments Haha Renee! One excuse is as goid as another 😆


message 588: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11629 comments Peggy wrote: "Haha Renee!

We have 128 cases now, and the first death. I also had an email from work that everyone has to take their laptop and other necessary things home each day. If the school closes (not lik..."


A section of Trinity College was closed today as a student went down with the virus. I think we will a bunch more cases soon.


message 589: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Mar 06, 2020 05:22PM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Renee wrote: "There has been a coronavirus death not far from me. The person uses the same library as I do. The head of circulation called me to warn me. I doubt books are a vector. But just in case I have told ..."

I think that's a good option for you, Renee, even if you're being greedy :P That's great of your Librarian. The paper would probably be okay, I'd be concerned about the covers for you.

"How long does coronavirus last on surfaces?
It's a question a lot of people have been asking, and science is starting to give us a clearer picture of the answer.

One study that brought together data from 22 previous studies on coronaviruses (but not this new 2019 strain) found human coronaviruses could theoretically last on surfaces at room temperature for up to nine days.

That sounds like a long time, but a lot of factors come into play, tweeted Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia university in the US.

Some of these factors include:

The type of surface: Viruses survive on shiny, hard surfaces longer than soft ones
Whether it's exposed to sunlight: UV radiation kills viruses
Temperature and humidity: Viruses last longer at lower temperatures and lower humidity
But the best way to avoid getting infected from touching a contaminated surface? Keep your hands clean and don't touch your face." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-0...

So buy away! And now you have the science to back you up ;)


message 590: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments So #toiletpaper was the top hashtag in Australia all week as Aussies have been loosing their minds! Supermarkets have put limits on how much toilet paper you can buy per transaction now. Someone pulled a knife on another customer in the toilet paper aisle in Parramatta, in Tamworth someone got tasered by cops in the tp aisle.

Corner shops are all fine, but the major supermarkets are cleaned out. I went to the one next to Lexx's work on Thurs (I skipped Costco next door which is like the fricking Hunger Games), and shelves were empty - no pasta, no rice, no coconut cream, no soap, no tp (but I was steering clear of that aisle, that's where the crazies live). I think there is just this overwhelming leftover trauma from the summer that people have lost the plot.


message 591: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 59896 comments Rusalka wrote: "So #toiletpaper was the top hashtag in Australia all week as Aussies have been loosing their minds! Supermarkets have put limits on how much toilet paper you can buy per transaction now. Someone pu..."

Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and bottled water is flying off the shelves here and there are no reported cases in Alberta. Yesterday, I had one roll of toilet paper left and a super busy day. I ordered TP and other groceries online and scheduled pick up at 8:00 last night. The only thing missing from my order was the TP. Number one priority today was - shopping!


message 592: by Grainne (new)

Grainne Coughlan | 1297 comments Rusalka wrote: "Renee wrote: "There has been a coronavirus death not far from me. The person uses the same library as I do. The head of circulation called me to warn me. I doubt books are a vector. But just in cas..."

Good thinking Rene. It's a good chance to buy some of your favorite books.

Bank notes are thought to be a source of virus transmission. Here in Korea, the food delivery services have asked that we pay online when ordering food to minimize the transmission of the virus. So, when I ordered I paid by card online. It saves on counting cash and giving change for the delivery men.

I hope you can find some toilet roll.

Stay safe if you have other medical conditions.


message 593: by Jayme, Moderator (new)

Jayme | 4519 comments What's wrong with people? I don't see wine on anyone's list of necessities!! :)


message 594: by Shirley (new)

Shirley | 1506 comments Renee wrote: "There has been a coronavirus death not far from me. The person uses the same library as I do. The head of circulation called me to warn me. I doubt books are a vector. But just in case I have told ..."Good plan Renee. I love the way readers are so devious in their efforts to get more books.

Rusalka wrote: "So #toiletpaper was the top hashtag in Australia all week as Aussies have been loosing their minds! Supermarkets have put limits on how much toilet paper you can buy per transaction now. Someone pu..."


message 595: by Shirley (new)

Shirley | 1506 comments Rusalka wrote: "Renee wrote: "There has been a coronavirus death not far from me. The person uses the same library as I do. The head of circulation called me to warn me. I doubt books are a vector. But just in cas..."
So Queensland’s endless sunshine and relentless humidity is good for something at last!


message 596: by Shirley (new)

Shirley | 1506 comments Jayme wrote: "What's wrong with people? I don't see wine on anyone's list of necessities!! :)"Hey let’s not encourage that idea. We don’t want empty shelves in the local Bottle Shop.


message 597: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11629 comments Jayme wrote: "What's wrong with people? I don't see wine on anyone's list of necessities!! :)"

I hear you Jayme! My wine rack is fully stocked at all time so no panic buying required LOL


message 598: by Grainne (new)

Grainne Coughlan | 1297 comments Jayme wrote: "What's wrong with people? I don't see wine on anyone's list of necessities!! :)"

Haha where are peoples priorities?!


message 599: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Jayme wrote: "What's wrong with people? I don't see wine on anyone's list of necessities!! :)"

THIS! Jayme is my people!


message 600: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Mar 07, 2020 05:24AM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19206 comments Shirley wrote: "Jayme wrote: "What's wrong with people? I don't see wine on anyone's list of necessities!! :)"Hey let’s not encourage that idea. We don’t want empty shelves in the local Bottle Shop."

*snort* My Dan Murphy's, Boozebud, and Beer Cartel orders all arrived this week! Quarantine at my place!!!


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