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message 101: by J. (last edited Jan 12, 2020 05:48PM) (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Iran plane crash: Britain condemns Tehran's arrest of UK ambassador

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51077897


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Ian Miller | 1857 comments Rather messy. It was illegal to detain an ambassador, but the police presumably did not know who he was, given that the link says he was released after they found out. The article says he was detained for three hours, or released after fifteen minutes when his identity was confirmed. What does that mean? The news link is a bit confused, but in such times, should an ambassador do something such as attending rallies that may be unauthorised that have the potential for making the situation worse? If he believed it would be a legitimate vigil, should he have alerted the Iranians of his intention to attend, since they are technically responsible for his safety?

overall, either Iran behaved badly, or they are out of luck. Which one?


message 103: by J. (last edited Jan 13, 2020 04:06PM) (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Journalists quit Iranian state broadcaster over crash cover-up

https://www.theguardian.com/world/202...


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments Ian wrote: "The article says he was detained for three hours, or released after fifteen minutes when his identity was confirmed. What does that mean?..."

It is probably both. It took only fifteen minutes to release him once his identity was confirmed after he was at the station for three hours. Let us suppose for the moment that Iran was not playing games. Would the ambassador speak Farsi or the local police speak English? That might take time to straighten out. It sounds like once the deputy foreign minister found out, he moved very fast to release the British minister.

As for the ambassador attending a rally, it might have started out as a vigil and then turned into something else. When it comes to Iran, it is impossible to figure what really happened.


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Ian Miller | 1857 comments J. wrote: "Journalists quit Iranian state broadcaster over crash cover-up

https://www.theguardian.com/world/202..."


I don't know whether this is wishful thinking, but this could be the start of the end of the theocracy, provided there is momentum and people to take over quickly, with a clear view on what they want. If it is just people annoyed, the authorities may well make them wish they had kept their annoyance private because a dictatorial regime cannot tolerate internal dissent.


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments Ian wrote: "J. wrote: "Journalists quit Iranian state broadcaster over crash cover-up

https://www.theguardian.com/world/202..."

I don't kno..."


Think about it this way, the original theocracy started off as protests. Not sure if this is going anywhere, but one can hope.....


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