Evidence for scientifically advanced Ancient civilizations?

[James, Group Founder]

Archaeological Developments At Giza, Egypt (University of Arizona webpage) http://www.u.arizona.edu/~hazey/Sphin...

Excerpts:

1. The 'Door' In The Great Pyramid
In March 1993, a small 'door' made of marble or limestone with two copper handles fixed on it was discovered by a mechanized robot (Upuaut II, "The opener of the way" in ancient Egyptian) at the end of a long narrow shaft (8 x 8 inches and 200 feet long). Since then the discoverer, robotics engineer Rudolf Gantenbrink from Munich, has been banned from resuming the exploration and opening the door.
The official reason given by the Egyptian Antiquities Authorities (known as the Supreme Council of Antiquities - SCA - ) was that Gantenbrink leaded the news of the discovery to the British Press in April 1993 and thus, apparently, broke a 'rule' of archaeology. The director of the German Archaeological Institute in Cairo, Dr. Rainer Stadelmann, sided with the Egyptians and condemned Gantenbrink for his press action. Dr. Stadelmann was adamant about the non-importance of the find. "This is not a door; there is nothing behind it." The President of the Supreme Council for Antiquities, Dr. Muhamad Bakr, went as far as claiming a 'hoax'. "The orifice of the shaft is too small for the robot to go through" and accused the "German scientist" of not having the correct 'approvals' from the SCA to carry out the exploration.

Dr. Bakr fired the Chief Inspector of the Giza Pyramid Plateau, Dr. Zahi Hawass, although the official reason given was that a valuable ancient 'statue' under the custody of Hawass was stolen from Giza. Three months later, in June 1993, Dr. Bakr himself was fired and replaced by Dr. Nur El Din. Amid accusations of malpractice and fraud, Dr. Bakr spoke of a "Mafia" which had been involved with the Pyramids for the "last twenty years". Refusing to give names, Dr. Bakr said, "I wanted the whole matter investigated by the prosecution authorities, but my request was refused."

Meanwhile, Dr. Hawass, who went to the USA, claimed that the discovery of the 'door' was "THE discovery in Egypt," and speculated that there are important artifacts behind it. In early 1994, Dr. Hawass was reinstalled at his post at the Giza Pyramids. Meanwhile, Gantenbrink offered his robot to the Egyptians and also offered to train an Egyptian technician to man the equipment and open the door. The Egyptians rejected the offer; "We are very busy at the moment," replied Dr. Nur El Din. About the same time, Dr. Hawass was to declare that "I do not think this is a 'door' and there is nothing behind it."

In March 1996 however, Dr. Hawass changed his mind once again and declared Gantenbrink's find as being one of huge interest and that the 'door' would be opened in September 1996 by a Canadian 'mission', but not including Rudolf Gantenbrink or his robot. The Canadian 'mission' is owned by Amtex Corporation of Canada, a multi-media CD-ROM company, who are reported to be raising the huge sum of $10 million to promote a staged 'live opening' of the door on television networks. "I'm working with a private guy who is a personal friend of Hawass and we are absolutely going to drum this thing to death. Whatever the event we are going to stage, it will be televised live," reported Amtex Corporation's president, Mr. Peter Zuuring.

2. Tunnels & Chambers Under The Great Sphinx
(I) In a series of expeditions between 1991 and 1993 led by John Anthony West, and independent Egyptologist, scientific investigators conducted geological and seismic surveys around the Great Sphinx of Egypt. The chief geologist was Dr. Robert Schoch, Professor of Geology at Boston University, and the chief seismologist was Thomas Dobecki from the highly-respected Houston consulting firm, McBride-Ratclif & Associates.
(II) The team's conclusions were as follows:

A. Geology, The pattern of erosion on the Sphinx indicates that it was carved at the end of the last Ice Age, when heavy rains fell in the eastern Sahara - perhaps more than 12,000 years ago. This contrasts starkly with the 'orthodox' Egyptological dating for the Sphinx of around 4,500 years ago.

B. Seismography. The seismic survey indicated the existence of several unexplored tunnels and cavities in the bedrock beneath the Sphinx, including a large rectangular chamber at a depth of some 25 feet beneath the monuments front paws.

(III) In 1993 John West and his team were physically expelled from the site by Dr. Zahi Hawass then (and now) the Egyptian government's Chief Inspector of Antiquities for the Pyramids and Sphinx. He appeared to be angered by the suggestion that the Sphinx might be far older than the civilization of Egypt itself - and thus the work of a lost civilization - and was particularly incensed by an NBC television film that was made about the team's work. This film linked the Sphinx to Atlantis and suggested that the chamber beneath the paws might contain the legendary "Hall of Records' of Atlantis. Hawass called these claims, "American hallucinations...There is no scientific base for any of this. We have older monuments in the same area. They definitely weren't built by men from Atlantis. It's nonsense and we won't allow our monuments to be exploited for personal enrichment. The Sphinx is the soul of Egypt."

(IV) An article in the Egyptian press responding to the NBC film quoted Dr. Hawass on his further reasons for expelling John West and his team from the Sphinx enclosure: "I have found that their work is carried out by installing endoscopes in the Sphinx body and shooting film for all phases of the work in a propagandistic but not scientific manner. I therefore suspended the work of this unscientific mission and made a report which was presented to the permanent commission who rejected the mission's work in the future."

(V) The NBC film was produced by a certain Boris Said and partially financed by investments from the members of the Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE). The ARE, headquartered in Virginia Beach in the US, is a multi-million dollar organization that exists to promulgate the teachings and prophecies of an American psychic, Edgar Cayce, who died in 1947. Prominent amongst Cayce's pronouncements were many statements to the effect that the Sphinx hand been built in 10,500 BC and that survivors of Atlantis had concealed beneath it a 'Hall of Records' containing all the wisdom of their lost civilization and the true history of the human race. Cayce prophesied that this Hall of Records would be rediscovered and opened between 1996 and 1998. He connected the opening to the second coming of Christ.

(VI) In 1995 John West and Professor Robert Schoch of Boston University put in an application to the Egyptian authorities to resume their research. Their application was ignored.

(VII) At the beginning of April 1996, the Egyptian authorities granted a one- year license to a new team to conduct surveys around the Sphinx and the Giza necropolis using seismic equipment and ground-penetrating radar. This team, which claims academic sponsorship from Florida State University, is largely financed through the Schor Foundation of New York - by Dr. Joseph Schor, an American multimillionaire.. Dr. Schor is a life member of the ARE and wrote on the 24th of May 1994 of his great personal interest in corroborating "the Cayce records which indicated that the culture which led to the building of the Pyramids dates to 10,400 BC." He also stated his wish "to further delineate that civilization."

(VIII) On April 11th 1996 Dr. Schor stated of his current project at the Sphinx: "We do not work for the Edgar Cayce Group... The major purpose of the Schor Foundation and the Florida State University is to aid in the preservation and restoration of the Pyramids and Sphinx. In addition, we are surveying the underground of the Giza Plateau to find faults and chasms that might collapse. This will increase the safety of the plateau..."

(IX) Also financed by Dr. Schor is a short video film shot at the end of 1995 by Boris Said and produced in early 1996. The film opens with Dr. Zahi Hawass scrambling into a tunnel leading under the Sphinx. When he reaches the bottom he turns to face the camera and whispers to the viewer: "Even Indiana Jones will never dream to be here. Can you believe it? We are no inside the Sphinx in this tunnel. This tunnel has never been opened before. No-one really knows what's inside this tunnel. But we are going to open it for the first time." In commentary the film's narrator goes on to state, "Edgar Cayce, America's famous 'Sleeping Prophet', predicted that a chamber would be discovered beneath the Sphinx - a chamber containing the recorded history of human civilization. For the first time we'll show you what lies beneath this great statue...a chamber which will be opened tonight, live, for our television cameras."

(X) Dr. Schor has stated (on the 11th of April 1996) that this video is not a promotional venture aimed at hooking a major US network to televise a live opening of a chamber under the Sphinx. On the contrary, he insists, "It was made to test script and equipment and was made in November 1995 which was many months before we received approval for our expedition. We have abandoned its use..."

(XI) On the 14th of April 1996, Dr. Zahi Hawass announced in the Egyptian press that there were secret tunnels under the Sphinx and around the Pyramids and stated his belief that these tunnels would prove to "carry many secrets of the building of the Pyramids."

http://www.u.arizona.edu/~hazey/Sphin...

[James, Group Founder]

The Dogon Speak on Space Travel, Technology, and the 117 Year Old Dogon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEdZ...

[David]

Maybe time to really do some serious investigations. Reading Schoch's book leads to some interesting references like this one: http://etheric.com/paul-laviolette-bio/

[David]

Will have to check that one out. I think we need to understand that history as taught in the last half of the 20th century needs major revisions

[Jim]

Even if you take out the speculative stuff, new discoveries are changing paradigms right and left. The evolution of H. Sapiens is turning out to be a lot more complicated than we thought. Out of Africa is going to have to be seriously modified and might turn out not to be true at all. Clovis First has gone the way of the dodo. It seems only Egyptology is immune to new facts.

[David]

Egyptology has a ton of vested interest issues and "Experts" who won't want to be proven wrong.

[David]

Is this the stuff of legend, or tinfoil hats, or the truth? https://gizadeathstar.com/2018/09/of-...

[James, Group Founder]

Jim wrote: "I'm reading a book by Laird Scranton that demonstrates advanced scientific knowledge encoded in the myths of many cultures. He traces the tradition back as far as Gobekli Tepi but it must be a lot ..."

One of Scranton's books on the Dogon? Or another one?

[David]

I really do the Dogon had been cultured contaminated by the astronomers.

In the 1930’s two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germain Dieterlen, recorded this legend from four Dogon priests. The tribal elders not only shared their amazing understanding of Astronomy but Physics as well. They knew that the Earth was not flat, as many primitive tribes believed, but a spherical orbiting body in ‘space’.

This website thinks not: https://www.trinfinity8.com/african-d...

However: Q Why do the Dogon people of Mali believe they were visited by amphibious beings from the star Sirius 3,000 years ago? Have any planets been discovered around Sirius? DR West, Glasgow, Scotland

A The first reports of the Dogon myth came from the French anthropologist Marcel Griaule who studied them between the 1930s and 1950s.

Their apparent extraordinary knowledge of Sirius was reported in 1946 when Griaule told of their belief that it was a binary star system whose secondary star took 50 years to complete an orbit, all of which is correct but cannot have been discovered or verified without sophisticated equipment.

They also seemed to know about the rings of Saturn and moons of Jupiter.

You may choose between two explanations: the Dogon learnt it from alien visitors, presumably from Sirius itself, or they based the information on what they heard from a team of astronomers who visited Mali to see a solar eclipse in 1893.

No planet has yet been discovered orbiting Sirius but the German composer Karlheinz Stockhausen was reported to have said that he came from such a planet and that he was educated on Sirius itself.

He also wrote a science fiction opera called Sirius.

from https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/...

[James, Group Founder]

There is some evidence (tho not proof) that the Dogon's advanced astronomical knowledge pre-dates the French astronomers who visited them in 1893.

For example, they have certain tools (shaped what looks to be identical to the Sirius B star system) and these possibly ceremonial tools seem to depict the celestial orbit made...The tools were created hundreds of years before the 19th century.

They also have an apparently ancient ceremony called Sigui that is all about movements of the Sirius System/Sirius B (and there are four hundred-year-old masks that have been found used in the Sigui ceremonial rites). I believe that ceremony is only done once every 60 years - again, I think that's to mark solar systems or planets aligning, although I could be wrong about that bit.

Not many books have been written on the Dogon, surprisingly. But there may be more POTENTIAL evidence laid out in these titles:

The Science of the Dogon: Decoding the African Mystery Tradition



Sacred Symbols of the Dogon: The Key to Advanced Science in the Ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs



The Cosmological Origins of Myth and Symbol: From the Dogon and Ancient Egypt to India, Tibet, and China



Conversations with Ogotemmêli: An Introduction to Dogon Religious Ideas



The Sirius Mystery: New Scientific Evidence of Alien Contact 5,000 Years Ago

[David]

You must have a contract with them? Great Public Relations effort. I don't see Sirius having any planets? Here is another question. If they did contact the Dogons, why only them? Why choose such an obscure place and time (to steal a line from the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar)?

[James, Group Founder]

David wrote: "You must have a contract with them? Great Public Relations effort. I don't see Sirius having any planets? Here is another question. If they did contact the Dogons, why only them? Why choose such an..."

Haha, I always get a kick outta you Dave!

But I was just going by memory and not an astronomer so may have used orbit to accidentally allude to planets (wrong terminology) when I meant stars. However, there is definitely a Devil's Advocate case against the 1893 theory put forward (not necessarily saying I believe it, but just pointing out nothing has been proven or debunked either way)...And as mentioned there is at least some evidence (not proof) that the Dogons knew about this star system long before then, as per certain Dogon ceremonial tools apparently shaped exactly like the Sirius constellation as well as the Sirius ceremony said to be hundreds of years old according to 400 year old ceremonial masks found...I think from memory that particular Sirius ceremony is only done by the Dogons once every 60 years, which is a bit odd also.

The 1893 French astronomer argument could simply be rigid academia attempting to disprove something they couldn't possibly believe in or accept - And if you research the Dogon they definitely say their astronomical knowledge passed down in oral tradition goes back long before then...Not saying I believe the Dogons either, but their definite reply to criticisms from academia complicates things at least as 1893 isn't that long ago (e.g. you'll note further up this thread I posted a video with a still living Dogon over a 100 years old, 116 I believe he is, so if you think about it that man's parents would have been born long before 1893).

As to your other question, I think the Dogons are some of the oldest people around, so if the Ancient Aliens theory is legit (again, not necessarily saying I believe that either), then potentially the Dogons might be one of the few peoples left on Earth to be able to remember it (oral tradition)...But plenty of others around the planet allude to something similar e.g. Nazca Lines seem to be aware of Sky Gods, likewise Australian Aboriginals have various sky beings in their oral traditions... So I think the old popular debunking attempt many "maninstreamers" use of simply saying "Why ONLY these people and nobody else" isn't really a relevant question, especially concerning very ancient peoples like the Dogon...

And lastly, we also are assuming here that knowledge of distant star systems would necessitate ETs coming to our planet (kinda a modern perspective and perhaps a byproduct of a Hollywood-influenced culture). Who is to say those who built the pyramids and similar feats were not capable of travelling to Sirius with physical technology or something else (e.g. remote viewing).

Possibilities here are endless, mate, so I'm remaining on the fence.

[David]

A well-reasoned answer. I will need more of a smoking gun to be convinced. I sometimes forget to say thank you and your dad for all the work and effort you put into this community. THANKS!

[James, Group Founder]

Cheers, Dave. And thanks to you and others like Jim for bothering to keep sharing info or asking the important questions. I for one am learning a lot from you all. This group is nearing 10,000 members, so my hope is in time - as we attract renowned scholars and the like - we may as a global collective be able to solve certain mysteries...

[Ian]

As to the absence of planets around Sirius, if we were there with our current technology, it would be highly unlikely that we could see our planets, or find any evidence for them. One of the problems with the Kepler probe is they found so many systems that everyone thinks finding planets is easy, but Kepler only worked when the planets transited the star, which means the equatorial plane of the planets had to be on our line of sight. While they found a lot of systems, they surveyed an enormous number of stars and found nothing, as would be expected due to geometry. Not saying Sirius has such a civilization, but merely we cannot rule out planets yet.

At the risk of self promotion, my theory of planetary formation would suggest all, or at least most, stars start off with planets, because planet formation gets around the problem of how the material falling into the star during accretion can get rid of its angular momentum. If that is not got rid of somehow, the star spins so fast it would shed stuff.

[David]

follow up for Jim. Scranton's first video and links to further ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=...

A list of ebooks from Google Play
https://play.google.com/store/search?...

[David]

spot on Jim. I am reading one of Dr. Schoch's book now. Even a Carrington event would be a mega FUBAR for most of the world. No money access at all unless you have stashed it. That alone causes riots. Food shortages,etc. Damn, sounds like a bad movie indeed.

[James, Group Founder]

Jim wrote: "Also, as sophisticated as their stonework is, I'm pretty sure they didn't discover string theory. ..."

Big call! :)

[Ian]

Jim wrote: "Also, as sophisticated as their stonework is, I'm pretty sure they didn't discover string theory. …"

Actually, I would argue, neither have we :-) . So far there are supposed to be about 10^500 possible string theories, and maybe the truth is lurking in there, but I would say we have hardly discovered it.

[Roberto]

That old map (can't remember its name) that showed Antarctica without snow and divided into two land masses as it really is. I think that proves at least advanced exploration before the last ice age, maybe even flight?

[Roberto]

I'm not sure. The one I vaguely remember was a different one from Piri Reis... This discussion makes me want to re-read some old books I have in my personal library...

[Remy]

As an historian I truly believe that we have barely begun to scratch the surface of the past. There is so much that we have yet to uncover; so much that needs to be tossed out of "records" that suited someone's purpose.

[James, Group Founder]

Remy wrote: "As an historian I truly believe that we have barely begun to scratch the surface of the past. There is so much that we have yet to uncover; so much that needs to be tossed out of "records" that sui..."

Hi Remy, hope all is well there in Louisiana.
James

[Remy]

James,

Doing okay and so waiting for the cool weather! Rain, more rain, humidity and heat! I am an autumn woman! Best to you and Lance!

[Lance, Group Founder]

Remy wrote: "James,

Doing okay and so waiting for the cool weather! Rain, more rain, humidity and heat! I am an autumn woman! Best to you and Lance!"

Thanks muchly Remy! Glad you dodged Florence I bet.

[James, Group Founder]

The Incas were better at skull surgery than Civil War doctors https://www.zmescience.com/science/ne...

[Ian]

James wrote: "The Incas were better at skull surgery than Civil War doctors https://www.zmescience.com/science/ne..."

For what it is worth, it is generally accepted that having received a battlefield wound, and considering equivalent wounds more or less, your chances of survival in a Roman legion were only exceeded in WW2, when antibiotics became available. Some of the ancients learned a lot about some sorts of medicine, especially for problem on the exterior of the body, where they could see what the results were. The Romans had discovered some things with antiseptic properties by trial and error (even if they did not know about bacteria) and it took a surprising length of time to rediscover even the need to be clean. We must not run down some of the ancient's ability to learn

[James, Group Founder]

So what happened, Ian?
Did we lose a lot of medical knowledge during the Dark Ages, I assume?

[Ian]

A lot of knowledge was lost at the collapse of the Roman empire because apart from a few priests, and a very few others, people stopped reading (by and large they did not know how) and the priests were only interested in religion. Medical standards fell drastically, and it was only until very recently surgeons even started washing their hands again. I saw an interesting TV program some time ago where someone found some Roman surgical tools and showed them to a modern surgeon, and his comment was, he knew exactly what they were for, and apart from the fact they were not made of stainless steel, they would fit quite well into a modern surgical kit. Of course the Romans did not have anaesthetics so surgery would have been a painful experience. Some of the "prescriptions" for internal failings were absolutely "kill or cure", and in the odd event of the latter, it would probably have cured itself anyway. WE are an awful lot better off today, but not a couple of hundred years ago or so in many cases.

[Saroya]

Many alternative archaeologists, geologists, astro-theologians and other scholars have at least one consensus. They all agree there was a Global Civilization that was in communication with one another using the technology of their time: the earth. There are obelisks, stone circles and other geometric and astrological stone structures all over the planet, along with the 'Ley Lines' (specific electromagnetic pathways that run across the earth in every meridian direction). When seen from the air, many of the temples, sculptures and monuments are configured like chipsets and processors of the kind found on electronics circuit boards. Take a look at the *entire* layout of the Parthenon and Giza Plateau and you will see what I mean. In addition, most of the S. African stone circles look like Magnetrons while Adam's calendar has electric, harmonic resonance frequencies and heat signatures that are off the charts for something 'earthly'. The Nazca lines follow the electromagnetic meridians, and their harmonic subsets, with particular figures etched upon power spots (where multiple major lines cross at right angles) and indicate astronomic locations and constellations. Not to mention the Great Pyramid and the temple complex at Karnak (R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz' 'The Temple in Man' details all of the complexities found there, throughout Egypt and the Sudan [Nubia]). This World-wide civilization existed up until 10,000-12,000BC when a global cataclysm took place. This timeline corresponds with the asteroid that hit the Atlantic ocean (in the area off the coast of Florida). There is evidence of a major Solar plasma event, in addition to the asteroid impact, all across the South East and far Western Plains and Mid-West of N America. There is also remnants of a crater in the Southern part of the Atlantic. It is documented by the Tibetans, and others, that they were warned in regard to the asteroid collision and saved much of the ancient knowledge in their possession underground (there were massive underground cities found in Turkey in the past decade -- with similar places found in N/S America and N/E Europe [check out the Bucegi Mountain area]). It is truly unfortunate that the documentation, held by that civilization, was virtually destroyed because it is that place in time which would provide such a indispensable plethora of answers. However, cultures such as the Tibetans, Dogon and Hopi actually have a great deal of knowledge from that civilization (both written and orally transmitted). It is a travesty, and a crime, that they are not taken seriously by 'mainstream' scholars and academics.

[James, Group Founder]

James wrote: "What's your opinion of the Coral Castle in Florida and its creator Edward Leedskalnin?

“I have discovered the secrets of the pyramids, and have found
out how the Egyptians and the ancient builders in Peru, Yucatan, and Asia, with only primitive tools, raised and set in place blocks of stone weighing many tons!” –Edward Leedskalnin

Who was Edward Leedskalnin http://coralcastle.com/whos-ed/

The Incredible Mystery Of Coral Castle http://www.rense.com/general39/coral.htm

Coral Castle Mystery, Edward Leedskalnin, Anti-Gravity, Stargate Portals and More! http://www.labyrinthina.com/coral-cas......"

Coral Castle & off the hardware store shelf "Ancient Technology" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owmlj...

Lost Ancient Knowledge: Levitation Secrets of Coral Castle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRsAW...

[Jim]

I've read some speculation about acoustic levitation. In principle, it could work if you could produce a relatively low frequency at sufficient volume. Not sure how that could be a one-man job, though.

[James, Group Founder]

Jim wrote: "I've read some speculation about acoustic levitation. In principle, it could work if you could produce a relatively low frequency at sufficient volume. Not sure how that could be a one-man job, tho..."

Is that Coral Castle well known in America?

[James, Group Founder]

Professor Robert M. Schoch postulates the following on pages 180-181 of Forgotten Civilization: The Role of Solar Outbursts in Our Past and Future (thanks to Dave for the tip off):

Most scientists feel the decay rate is constant

Some authors have raised doubt about the invariability of decay constants, which would invalidate the exponential-decay law and the foundation on which the common measurement system for radioactivity is based. Claims were made about a new interaction – the fifth force – by which neutrinos could affect decay constants, thus predicting changes in decay rates in correlation with the variations of the solar neutrino flux. Their argument is based on the observation of permille-sized annual modulations in particular decay rate measurements, as well as transient oscillations at frequencies near 11 year−1 and 12.7 year−1 which they speculatively associate with dynamics of the solar interior. In this work, 12 data sets of precise long-term decay rate measurements have been investigated for the presence of systematic modulations at frequencies between 0.08 and 20 year−1. Besides small annual effects, no common oscillations could be observed among α, β-, β+ or EC decaying nuclides. The amplitudes of fitted oscillations to residuals from exponential decay do not exceed 3 times their standard uncertainty, which varies from 0.00023 % to 0.023 %. This contradicts the assertion that 'neutrino-induced' beta decay provides information about the deep solar interior.

[Jim]

James wrote: Is that Coral Castle well known in America?

I'm not sure if it is among the general public. People like me who are interested in oddities certainly know about it.

[David]

Sometimes greed and money create historical lies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian...

Sometimes you gotta really look at the reality. Did Finish the Schoch book and he mentioned how greed, money and power skews science and history.

[James, Group Founder]

Mysterious Ancient Rock Carvings Found in India https://www.coasttocoastam.com/articl...

Explorers in India have discovered thousands of ancient petroglyphs atop hills in India and they suspect that they were created by a lost civilization. The remarkable drawings depict humans and a number of different animals as well as odd geometric designs. According to the BBC, experts who examined the petroglyphs say that the manner in which they were created suggests that they date back to prehistoric times.

Sudhir Risbood and Manoj Marathe are credited as the researchers responsible for uncovering the vast array of ancient drawings. The duo became intrigued by the petroglyphs after spotting a handful of the drawings in various villages where the artwork was considered sacred. Risbood and Marathe subsequently went on a quest to find more of the petroglyphs. The vast majority of the drawings had been concealed by the proverbial sands of time and literal dirt and mud.

The nature of the petroglyphs, experts say, shed some light on the community of people who made them as they seem to give no indication of any agricultural knowledge. Perhaps the most wondrous detail about the drawings is that some of them are of animals which are not native to India, such as hippos and rhinos. Archaeologists are uncertain if this means that the people of the time had come from a place where those creatures live or if such animals actually resided in India in the distant past.

[James, Group Founder]

Experts baffled by mysterious prehistoric civilization in India that left behind thousands of rock carvings - including pictures of animals native to Africa https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...

-Archaeologists have uncovered thousands of ancient petroglyphs in India’s western state of Maharashtra
-The images show human figures and animals, including African animals such as hippos and rhinoceroses
-Experts have no idea how they would have come in contact with these animals while living in India
-It's thought they could have migrated from Africa, or that the animals could have roamed a larger territory

[James, Group Founder]

Am Watching TV series "The Pyramid Code" on Netflix
www.netflix.com/title/70212989?source...

Well worth a watch.

Some of the stones seem to be machine carved as they are way too precise to have been done manually.

The little known pyramid found on a mountain top in Egypt seems to debunk a lot of commonly accepted Egyptology theories as well

[David]

watched second episode. Some interesting observations but no smoking gun yet.

[James, Group Founder]

Jim wrote: "Brian Foerster has some YouTube videos that address obvious machining on various Egyptian artifacts including granite blocks, "sarcophagi," and other things.

Christopher Dunn also addresses much o..."

Ok thanks.

Is there any way, in your opinion, that the Egyptians could have carved stones as perfectly and precisely as some of the stones found, by using KNOWN technologies of that era?

I would have thought it would have been impossible without machinery or else something radical (e.g. telekinesis)...But just playing the Devil's Advocate for a moment.

[James, Group Founder]

Not sure about this one, but posting in case it's true...

Watch "The Mystery of the Balochistan Sphinx | Indus Valley Civilisation | Ancient Architects" on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC_7c...

[David]

Interesting-but to me it seems a real stretch. (postulated by the old Grinch in New Mexico). The temple part is tough to buy.

[[deleted user]]

James wrote: "Not sure about this one, but posting in case it's true...

Watch "The Mystery of the Balochistan Sphinx | Indus Valley Civilisation | Ancient Architects" on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=..."

Thanks, that's very interesting

[James, Group Founder]

Ancient Artifacts In Egypt That Egyptologists Do Not Understand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SENlu...

Above presentation is by Brien Foerster who wrote Lost Ancient Technology Of Egypt

[James, Group Founder]

Yes, bad assumptions are made all the time, But an equal problem in my view is dismissing an entire thesis (and this advanced ancient civilization is becoming an academic thesis remember, albeit a minor one) based off of listing mistakes made by amateur theorists. We need to allow for the mystery of these things to be solved (that's why this thread heading is a question not a fact).

[James, Group Founder]

Great Pyramid Hoax: In the second half of Saturday's show, Egyptian pyramid researcher Scott Creighton spoke about his work on what he calls the 'Great Pyramid Hoax,' which points to the perpetration of fraud concerning its construction date and the history of Ancient Egypt. Quarry marks within the Great Pyramid’s hidden chambers discovered in 1837 by Colonel Howard Vyse supposedly refer to the 4th Dynasty king Khufu. "I am convinced... that these [quarry] marks are, indeed, fake," Creighton argued, noting how he hopes the evidence he has uncovered will nudge mainstream Egyptology to take another look.

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2...

[James, Group Founder]

Exploring Ancient Enigmas: Mark Carlotto is an aerospace engineer with over thirty years of experience in satellite imaging, remote sensing, signal and image processing, pattern recognition, and app development. In the latter half of Tuesday's show, he delved into questions concerning human origins, ancient technology, and archaeological enigmas including evidence that sites such as Machu Picchu, Chichen Itza, and the Acropolis are far older than previously thought. Looking at the research of pole shifts by Charles Hapgood, he found that various sites around the planet appear to have been built so they were aligned with the four previous positions of the North Pole, stretching back over the last 100,000 years. This led Carlotto to hypothesize that civilizations with advanced technology existed tens of thousands of years ago, and their constructions were remade or altered by their ancestors, who may have viewed the original builders as ancient gods.

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2...

[James, Group Founder]

Roberto wrote: "TThat old map (can't remember its name) that showed Antarctica without snow and divided into two land masses as it really is. I think that proves at least advanced exploration before the last ice age, maybe even flight? ..."

There was a mythical Great Southern Land in Maori myths and various other native peoples of the Southern Hemisphere (and maybe some in the Northern Hemisphere too?). Anyway, many explorers went searching for it. When they found only ice and a few rocks in Antarctica, they assumed it was just a myth not reality... But maybe Antarctica was it all along?

[Jim]

There's some contention over how long Antarctica has been covered with ice. Traditionally is was thought to be millions of years but in the last 30 years or so, some have been making arguments for thousands.