القرآن الكريم القرآن الكريم question


58 views
Discussion of Secular View on World Religions
deleted member (last edited Nov 23, 2014 01:47PM ) Nov 08, 2014 04:13PM
Holy Bible: King James VersionTanakh: The Holy ScripturesThe Book of Mormon

Honestly, why are not all the major texts of world religions treated by secularists with the same amount of negatively biased scrutiny as each other? I pride myself on having very progressive values, but cannot tolerate how differently the texts of the Bible and the Quran are treated on this website in reviews. Yes, there are fundamentalist Christian assholes who have published hate speech on the reviews here even though it is morally detestable, but why is it a thing among many non religious people to bash Christians but hold Islam in high regard just because it is the progressive thing to do? They both should be respected as should the Torah, the Book of Mormon, and other religious texts...just my opinion, what is yours?

- A baptist and a student of anthropology



I think, as a 3rd party, that it results from the irresistible draw of the perception of an easy target. Defenders of religious texts often provide circuitous or flawed reasoning for defending their beliefs to non-believers, and then doggedly persist in argument against a foe who wishes only to stoke such fires for entertainment. In short, because some people like to start flame wars.

Caveat of course, in that some proponents of religious belief can preset strong cases for their faith, just as in any discussion about any topic. But just like the sentiment that 90% of music is crap, 90% of theological defense is crap, and this is taken advantage of. There are those of us looking for that10% of "good" music (subjective) and that 10% of good argument, in which premises, hypotheses and questions are all presented systematically and without engaging in personal flame wars or crusades, forgive the pun.


Think religious, or any other form of belief, should be a personal preference, not open to debate and not enforced, enforcement including parental preferences, or beliefs. Start with right, wrong, good and bad. Life and circumstances, without dogmatic restriction allows individual belief to grow naturally. Religious books all have the same core messages, sectarianism is disagreement of interpretation. I believe in belief regardless of personal perception. Accept every belief as equally true.


Sheala (last edited Jan 13, 2015 06:36PM ) Dec 25, 2014 05:08PM   0 votes
I have noticed that also. It seems particularly prevalent in the West where Christianity was once held in high regard. It feels like a pendulum to me; since it had such a high standing in the past, people are excessively reacting to move the pendulum the other way. I prefer the middle area myself, but I have my own biases so what can I say?!

Jan. 13 addition: Good insight, Kenneth! Probably a lot of truth to what you're saying.


I think that the texts themselves, the Scriptures, are not known by most. Even those who profess to follow the particular text don't really understand them.

If you ask a question about them, you will get an answer from their clergy or leadership (from their perspective) but not from the Scriptures themselves. Thus, most people have an understanding based on what they are told not what they read. This is the reason that there are hundreds of divisions in each of the popularly known religions--each reads/understands it differently.

Some feel that the corruption in the world would be erased with a return to their particular belief/understanding of their Scripture and try to enforce that through fatwas, staging sit-ins at the funerals of soldiers or other offensive behaviors. That is, they try to force their understanding and actions on others. What happens is that by their actions, they make it seem that the rules and laws that are in their Scriptures are not intended for themselves but for others who are not believers in their way. They are more interested in being judges of others. Thus, they make their religion unlikable.

However, there are others who try to live a godly life and lead by example. Those do not try to force others to live by their understanding of what God wants. They live the rules and commandments of their Scripture as well as they can knowing that they won't always meet the standard. When others become interested in their way, they share.

These attitudes are applicable across religions. That is, you can find examples of both in each religion...the attitudes are not religion specific but person specific depending upon the spiritual quality and understanding of the individual and Who/who he or she follows.


back to top