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FALSE FLAG OPERATIONS > Was 9/11 a false flag attack and 'Inside Job'? (GROUP POLL RESULT: 50% of you say YES)

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message 451: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Hale | 42 comments http://educate-yourself.org/cn/driver... LOOK AT THAT.. yeah. I heard years ago about Secret Service men.. ducking or being too close.. and I never have heard this one before..


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Isabella Hale | 42 comments Iain wrote: "Isabella wrote: "Do I believe in the Magic Bullet theory clip? No I don't believe in Magic Bullet, I am a scientist and the physics alone are impossible, but.. we can pretend for a moment.. there w..."

Iain wrote: "Isabella wrote: "Do I believe in the Magic Bullet theory clip? No I don't believe in Magic Bullet, I am a scientist and the physics alone are impossible, but.. we can pretend for a moment.. there w..."

I agree totally.. about 10 years ago I was at the Rec Center... and a woman starting talking to me.. turns out she was a Debarred attorney probably knew too much.. she gave me her card and told me to check out Zeitgeist and 9/11 theories. I am not sure why were talking about it.. but I always end up talking to people.. (extrovert) and somehow it gets around to topics like that. That is how I got interested in the 9/11 conspiracy theories and I was standing on the street and saw the puff of smoke arise from the Pentagon.. which is another all day seminar.. topic.. like why were the Cameras at the High rise (which I have been to) I grew up in DC.. and used cut through the Pentagon parking lot on 110 when I worked in DC.. those films of the "Plane that hit the Pentagon".. where are those?.. NOT the simulations. I did see the smoke.. and the total silence of the area was eerie..


message 453: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments The Bin Ladens and the Bushes: On 9/11 George Herbert W. Bush Meets Osama’s Brother Shafiq bin Laden
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-bin...


message 454: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Hello and YES! (Here it was all happening on 12 September so it's 12/9/01 by us. )
I sat with my 14 year old son who had been sent home from school after having been told that 10,000 people had been killed in the Twin Towers. Over the succeeding months we saw the death toll go down to just under 3000.
We also saw the two first wars start, Afghanistan on 8th October, my son's father's birthday, and Iraq months later.
My late brother was the most sceptical and over the next few years (he died in 2004) spent a lot of time in discussion online and collecting information.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Debby wrote: "My late brother was the most sceptical and over the next few years (he died in 2004) spent a lot of time in discussion online and collecting information...."

What was your brother's verdict in the end, Debby?


message 456: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments He died before a lot of things we know now could be known, but he thought there was something odd about it all, basically we thought it was all an excuse for the Patriot Act and for war.He was especially dubious about the anthrax attacks.


message 457: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Makes sense.

And you may also be interested in this thread:

The 2001 USA Anthrax Attacks: Real terrorism OR a "domestic conspiracy" and "inside job"? https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 458: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Thank you for that! (I couldn't get on to a computer for a while, sorry)


message 459: by Andy (new)

Andy | 1 comments Hey, I'm new to this group, but I love discussing this stuff.

This is really interesting to me.

Andrew Jackson. A pretty bad president if you ask me. He was a jerk to Native Americans with the Trail Of Tears. Andrew Jackson served as the seventh president of the United States from 1829 to 1837. But he just had a bad reputation. He is on our $20 bill. Now if you fold a $20 bill the right way, you can get a pretty good resemblance of 9/11. The 2 twin towers with smoke. Now even BEFORE 9/11 in November 1967. The universal emergency number was made. It was the numbers 9-1-1. 2 months before the 33rd anniversary of the number, we had 9/11. September 11, 2001. Anyway, what I am saying is, it WAS an inside job. If you review the footage slowly, you can see some bombs going off, therefore damaging the stability of the building. To even get a terrorist on a plane, they would have to go through security, which wasn't the best, but they still got in. Enough got in to hijack FOUR planes. Not one, but 4. 2 were at the twin towers. One went to the Pentagon in Arlington County, Virginia, where 55 military personnel died. And the 4th was apparently stopped by the crew and passengers fighting the terrorists. A high-ranking al Qaeda detainee told investigators the intended target of United Airlines Flight 93, which crashed into a Pennsylvania field on Sept. 11, was the White House. So here we have 4 planes. 2 going to the Twin Towers, 1 for the Pentagon, and another to the White House. But what I am saying is Andrew Jackson was a bad president. But we put his face on out $20 bill anyway. Folding his bill makes the twin towers smoking. But the bill was made this way WAY before 9/11 happened. Also, not a coincidence that it was on 9/11, the national emergency number. My guess is some people in power were found out what the bill formed. They then saw it resembled the twin towers. They got an idea, paid the security people to let in the 'terrorists', basically gave them 4 planes, but when one of the terrorists actually became a terrorist and went for the White House, they had to change plans and stop the plane. That is why that one never made it. I am also thinking there would be 2 for the Twin Towers and 2 for the Pentagon, either way, something didn't go according to plan and the 4th one never made it. Now we all know the government is crooked and has a ton of money, so they could have very easily paid people. Also, to get bombs planted IN the building, you have to be stupid to think that NO-ONE saw them plant them. Maybe someone did, so they had to get the planes and finish the job that way. Whatever it is, I know it has to be an inside job.


message 460: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments Thank you, I didn't know that about Andrew Jackson.


message 461: by Kreday (new)

Kreday Sirohi | 1 comments Everyone shut up


message 462: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Kreday wrote: "Everyone shut up" including you?


message 463: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments More on the Warren Commission...Sorry, I mean the 9/11 Commission...

9/11 Commission Report Questioned by Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government Officials https://www.wanttoknow.info/officials...

Many respected senior members of the military, intelligence services, and government have expressed significant criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report. Some even allege government complicity in the terrible acts of 9/11. Below are the highly revealing public statements on this vital topic of over 50 prominent public servants with links for verification and further investigation.

The collective voices of these respected senior officials along with over 100 esteemed professors, over 250 pilots and aviation professionals, and over 3,000 architects and engineers give credibility to the claim that the 9/11 Commission Report is tragically flawed. These dedicated individuals from across the political spectrum are not irresponsible believers in some 9/11 conspiracy theory. Their sincere concern, backed by decades of service to their country, demonstrate that criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report is not only reasonable and responsible, it is in fact a patriotic duty.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/officials...


message 464: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments WERE THE 9/11 PLANE PHONE CALLS FAKED? David Icke On London Real | londonreal.tv/live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZryW...


message 465: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimliedeka) FBI reveals name of Saudi embassy official thought to have supported 9/11 hijackers

https://boingboing.net/2020/05/13/fbi...


message 466: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments SEVEN Official Teaser (2020) | World Trade Center Building 7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL9CC...
“SEVEN” is a documentary about the extraordinary conclusions of the University of Alaska Fairbanks study on the destruction of World Trade Center Building 7 and the epic failure of our institutions to tell the truth.


message 467: by John (new)

John Banks | 224 comments All I can say is: Despite all arguements, despite the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with it yet was invaded, despite all the absolute BS from the US govern, IT WAS FAKE!
It happened but certainly not how the official BS stated it did!!!


message 468: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments John wrote: "All I can say is: Despite all arguements, despite the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with it yet was invaded, despite all the absolute BS from the US govern, IT WAS FAKE!
It happened but certainl..."


Agreed, John. Absolutely.


message 469: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments "The widely held belief that the Twin Towers collapsed as a result of the airplane impacts and the resulting fires is, unbeknownst to most people, a revisionist theory. Among individuals who witnessed the event firsthand, the more prevalent hypothesis was that the Twin Towers had been brought down by massive explosions."

9/11 News Coverage: How 36 Reporters Brought Us the Twin Towers’ Explosive Demolition on 9/11 https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-36-...


message 470: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments COVID-911: From Homeland Security to Biosecurity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAyJ...

9/11, as we were told repeatedly in the days, weeks, and months after the attack, was the day that changed everything. And now a new event has come along to once again throw the world into chaos. But whereas the post-9/11 era introduced America to the concept of homeland security, the COVID-19 era is introducing the world to an altogether more abstract concept: biosecurity. This is the story of the COVID-911 security state.


message 471: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments From 9/11 to the Great Reset. From Al Qaeda to Covid The Virus… https://www.globalresearch.ca/911-gre...
Davos types issue a new 'with us or against us' ultimatum eerily reminiscent of the old 9/11 world


message 472: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Rumour has it the building insurers know the truth about 9/11 and have seen evidence to confirm it was an Inside Job...

Why Aren't Insurers 9/11 Truthers? - Questions For Corbett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYz3Y...


message 473: by James, Group Founder (last edited Sep 14, 2020 07:18AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments NEVER FORGET: In 2020, a 4 Year Study Found that ‘Fire Did Not Cause Building 7’s Collapse on 9/11’ https://thefreethoughtproject.com/nev...

As TFTP reported in April, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth announced the completed partnership with the University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) in their final report of an in depth four-year study on what they say actually brought down WTC 7. According to the press release, contrary to the conclusions of NIST, the UAF research team finds that the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11 was not caused by fires but instead was caused by the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.

“Our study found that the fires in WTC 7 could not have caused the observed collapse,” said Professor Leroy Hulsey, the study’s principal investigator. “The only way it could have fallen in the observed manner is by the near-simultaneous failure of every column.”


message 474: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments THE TRUTH SHALL BE REVEALED -- Richard Gage & Matt Campbell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1PKt...

Richard Gage the founder of AE911Truth.org mentions a big event which will serve to reveal the TRUTH about what happened that day.


message 475: by James (new)

James Conway | 2 comments James wrote: "**December 2016 update:

The 9/11 poll in this group recently ended and the verdict is in:
According to half of our members and the biggest group of voters, 9/11 was some kind of an “inside job” a..."


I've been researching this topic and associated topics for over 10 years and I say yes. It was kind of obvious wasn't it? but my research into a lot of "conspiratorial" and any number of poorly written diatribes, has led me to understand why it happened and why it will continue to happen.

This is my first post in this group so I'll shut up before I sound like a conspiratorial crazy man. But, how many facts do you need before a theory becomes a fact?


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Michael Scharen | 17 comments James wrote: "James wrote: "**December 2016 update:

The 9/11 poll in this group recently ended and the verdict is in:
According to half of our members and the biggest group of voters, 9/11 was some kind of an ..."


You are right on the money. As one who has had some training in basic probability (and one does not need training, just common sense) I was surprised myself at just how obvious the lies are and how often I had been duped in the past. I have a B.S./M.A. in physics and I should know much better, but I was lazy and complacent. No longer. Once you start looking, the truth is often there in plain sight. We have a powerful media and governments who would not exist unless they could gas-light most of us or publicly shame the dissenters (and worse) until they just give up or are so broken that they can no longer fight.


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James Conway | 2 comments Michael wrote: "James wrote: "James wrote: "**December 2016 update:

The 9/11 poll in this group recently ended and the verdict is in:
According to half of our members and the biggest group of voters, 9/11 was so..."


The truth is hidden in plain sight. Is absolutely correct. I've been researching things for about 10 years now and am working on the first draft of a book for the past few. The roots of 9/11 go back hundreds of years. In 1694 the central bank of England was established by The Crown. But, the Crown is not the monarch but the Monarch and the advisors. Who are the advisors? The bankers. The Bank of England is located in the City of London. The City of London isn't what people would assume the city of London is. It is a square mile within metropolitan London that has it's own sovereign government.

The colonies were corporations. Joint ventures between very wealthy people (monarch, bankers, British East India Company) to spread the risk of loss. We might have won the revolution but the owners of the corporation must still be paid or else the states would not receive financing for trade.

The united States is a confederation of sovereign nations. The United States is the name of the Federal Government whose jurisdiction is constitutionally limited to the 10 square miles of Washington DC.

I'll stop there because I don't want to go rambling on like a crazy man. But, this is how they hide in plain sight.


message 478: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments 9/11 Families Tell Biden to Skip Memorial If He Doesn’t Declassify Files https://www.theepochtimes.com/9-11-fa...

The families of victims who died during the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks sent a letter to President Joe Biden asking his administration to declassify evidence about the incident.


message 479: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments US invented air attack on Pentagon, claims French book https://www.theguardian.com/world/200...


message 480: by Anni (last edited Aug 21, 2021 10:21AM) (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments James wrote: "Michael wrote: "James wrote: "James wrote: "**December 2016 update:

The 9/11 poll in this group recently ended and the verdict is in:
According to half of our members and the biggest group of vot..."


As you are probably aware, David Icke was also called a crazy conspiracy theorist and laughed at for 30 years. Well, they’re not laughing now - so don’t give a damn about what people might think of you, James. We’ll be vindicated in the end.


message 481: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Anni wrote: "so don’t give a damn about what people might think of you, James..."

Of course not - what other people think of me is none of my business ;)

Thanks Anni, you're my favourite librarian ever!


message 482: by Anni (last edited Aug 21, 2021 11:31AM) (new)

Anni (annih) | 398 comments James wrote: "Anni wrote: "so don’t give a damn about what people might think of you, James..."

Of course not - what other people think of me is none of my business ;)

Thanks Anni, you're my favourite libraria..."


Cheers James


message 483: by Izraul (new)

Izraul | 1 comments 9/11 was absolutely a false flag, and there's 1 piece (or rather 20,000 pieces) of evidence that proves it.

In the FEMA report you'll find a section that talks about what happened to the 3,000 people inside the towers. 2,000 of the 3,000 people inside the buildings were turned into 20,000 tiny pieces of human remains, found as far as 1,400 feet from ground zero, That's the distance of 4 football fields. The other 1,000 simply vanished.

A gravitational collapse would crush victims. And they would all be recovered. Gravity can not, and does not, blow 2,000 humans into 20,000 tiny pieces the length of 4 football fields. That's not even a matter for debate. It's common sense.

I knew the minute I saw the destruction that bombs were detonated because falling buildings don't cause 100's of cars that are parked up to 5 blocks away to catch fire.

And roof fires can not cause structural damage to high rise buildings.


message 484: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments Is this a slow and gentle beginning of revealing 9/11 was an Inside Job?

CBS NEWS: Former FBI agent who worked on still-secret FBI 9/11 case says hijackers had U.S.-based support network https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-f...

"Gonzalez said the public would learn "a lot" if records from Operation Encore — which began two years after the commission's report — were released, and that it would change the public's understanding of 9/11."


message 485: by Beth (new)

Beth (pix1) | 377 comments I have thought this to be an inside job for many many years, what better way to justify an invasion and get the public behind you, to allow you to covertly look for ancient artefacts (my theory only).they have proved over many years that people's lives are nothing to them just "collateral damage" and worth it as far as they are concerned.


message 486: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11378 comments 9/11 Firefighter Blows WTC 7 Cover Up Wide Open https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQrmk...

Rudy Dent, 32 year veteran of NYC fire department and the NYPD, as well as a Vietnam veteran, reveals his first hand experience of the lies surrounding WTC 7.


message 487: by Beth (last edited Sep 16, 2021 06:08AM) (new)

Beth (pix1) | 377 comments Hate to say this as it's so unthinkable for the normal person but the power, money grabbers and politicians etc aren't normal but sociopaths/psychopaths IMO so what's a bit of collateral damage as they call deaths of their own people if it gets them what they want? I personally don't think this was just about terrorism, oil etc but think about the cradle of civilization and possible artefacts that may be there. I understand there was a special task force that were sent out to recover the artefacts that were found by using satellite technology, they were sent out to recover and then send to the U.S.A.. I gather quite an amount were found....makes you wonder?


message 488: by Beth (new)

Beth (pix1) | 377 comments Sorry all I appear to have repeated myself somewhat so please ignore my last post if you feel inclined...


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