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Lawrence, Mark- Prince of Thorns(The Broken Empire #1);Informal Buddy Read:Starts November 13 2014
I'd love to read thus one but it'd have to be later this month so I will see when you all set the start date.
I'll try to squeeze this one in. I fell in love with Mark Lawrence's writing after reading Prince of Fools.
Ready to start whenever, Vi. My copy arrived today, so it will depend on when you can get yours? Next week?
Anytime next week will work for me. I have the book on hand - just need to finish the ones I've started for other challenges. Would next week work for everyone?
Rebecca NJ wrote: "If I can get this from the library by the time you guys start this, I may join you."Hey Rebecca! You're reading a dark fantasy? :O
Vi wrote: "Hey Rebecca! You're reading a dark fantasy? :O"Sure, why not?!? This has been a year of branching out for me so we'll see how this goes :)
I should have it soon but you don't have to wait for me.
Well, I've just started with Chapter 1. I'm already interested to see how the author is going to make the main character sympathetic because he doesn't seem very pleasant right now! I'm intrigued...
I'm starting Chapter 11. All I can say is Whew...I thought Locke Lamora was an anti-hero but Jorg takes it up a notch.Can't believe I'm reading another jumping timeline!
Cynthia wrote: "I'm starting Chapter 11. All I can say is Whew...I thought Locke Lamora was an anti-hero but Jorg takes it up a notch.Can't believe I'm reading another jumping timeline!"
LOL! Locke Lamora seems tame to Jorg. Except for (view spoiler) he seemed like a mischievous boy, you know?
NancyHelen wrote: "Well, I've just started with Chapter 1. I'm already interested to see how the author is going to make the main character sympathetic because he doesn't seem very pleasant right now! I'm intrigued..."You're absolutely right
Vi wrote: "Cynthia wrote: "I'm starting Chapter 11. All I can say is Whew...I thought Locke Lamora was an anti-hero but Jorg takes it up a notch.Can't believe I'm reading another jumping timeline!"
LOL! Lo..."
Just started chapter 4. And Locke Lamora is a cute kitten next to Jorg
Lol! Absolutely. Has anybody read
? Apparently, this book is supposed to be a wannabe of that one. Both are dark fantasy.
I just got notice that this came in at the library - I'm going to try to pick it up today. Although I should really try to finish Locke Lamora first!
Vi wrote: "Lol! Absolutely. Has anybody read
? Apparently, this book is supposed to be a wannabe of that one. Both are dark fantasy."I've read about 20% of
and 60% of
. The only similarities I see are superficial genre ones, characteristics of dark fantasy. However, Joe Abercrombie released
earlier this year (so if anyone's copying, he is) and it sounds like it has some similarities. From the description: “I swore an oath to be avenged on the killers of my father. I may be half a man, but I swore a whole oath” and "Gathering a strange fellowship of the outcast and the lost, he finds they can do more to help him become the man he needs to be than any court of nobles could."Okay, now about the book! Spoilers abound!
Thru Chapter 25 (view spoiler)
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Angel wrote: "Can't say I have... This is actually my first try at dark fantasy.Have you? Is it any good?"
yep, I've read
which I actually liked despite the violence. It's definitely dark but not as much as this. I've also read the Night Angel trilogy by Brent weeks (Starts with
) which features an assassin hero. That was my first dark fantasy. I haven't read much more.I'm only 10% in and I have to say, Jorg is nearing towards a villain than a anti-hero. He is really distasteful (to be polite). So much so that I've considered DNF-ing. (view spoiler). I'll check back in when I read more.["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>
I've finished it, and I liked it a lot. I gave it 4 stars, but I would say it's more 4- than 4+. It doesn't have as much depth of character as
, but it's also about half the length. It's an interesting world, but I don't have a good feel for it. Maybe it would be better to say I don't feel like I have the whole picture. It's an incomplete vision in my mind.
After spending 2 hours waddling through
and it's excesses, brevity was definitely a plus in my mind and may have caused me to overrate.
Vi wrote: "I'm only 10% in and I have to say, Jorg is nearing towards a villain than a anti-hero. He is really distasteful (to be polite). So much so that I've considered DNF-ing..."I am inclined to agree with you, Vi. I have read a little bit further, and there are at least some explanations for why Jorg is the way he is, but I don't think it quite justifies it, IMO. He's pretty unpleasant, and I am hoping that he starts doing something to redeem himself.
It is interesting also how the author has combined a fantasy world with a real one. Jorg reads Plutarch, for instance, and yet the world he is existing in is definitely not ours.
Ok, a few chapters in and I already miss Jalan from Prince of Fools. He's manipulative, sarcastic, and cowardly, but he does have some morals. Buried very deep down. I absolutely loved him.Jorg is a little harder to like so far. I like anti-heroes, but not when they're (view spoiler).
I'm upto chapter 16. It's slow going since I'm doing two BR at the same time.I like reading the backstory of Jorg. Like NancyHelen says, it gives quite an explanation but does not justify it. But I'm definitely intrigued by his motives.
NancyHelen - It's true about the world. His tutor for example sounds like chinese to me? The author is probably using the same geography, time etc but the kingdom looks to be fictional.
Kristin wrote: "[spoilers removed]"You're absolutely right. It's do strange to think that he's only 14. (view spoiler) *shivers*
Vi wrote: "I'm upto chapter 16. It's slow going since I'm doing two BR at the same time.It's true about the world. His tutor for example sounds like chinese to me? The author is probably using the same geography, time etc but the kingdom looks to be fictional. ..."
I hadn't caught that about his tutor, but you could be right. The combination of real and fantasy means I do have to think quite hard. So, did Plutarch come from Greece? Does Greece exist? Or am I over thinking it now?! :-)
Kristin wrote: "I'm up to Chapter 26 now. I actually really like this book and I don't think Jorg is as bad of a person as we think. At least I'm hoping there's even more to his story that we were made to believe...."I never saw him as entirely bad from the very beginning. I think I just assumed he's a child and was manipulated or traumatized by adults into his actions. Ordinary children, even in that world, don't set out with a band of hooligans and commit mayhem.
Vi wrote: "LOL! Locke Lamora seems tame to Jorg. Except for (view spoiler) he seemed like a mischievous boy, you know? "I loved that part in Locke Lamora. It only takes some trauma in life to go to the darkside. ;)
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Book Synopsis:
When he was nine, he watched as his mother and brother were killed before him. At thirteen, he led a band of bloodthirsty thugs. By fifteen, he intends to be king.
It's time for Prince Honorous Jorg Ancrath to return to the castle he turned his back on, to take what's rightfully his. Since the day he hung pinned on the thorns of a briar patch and watched Count Renar's men slaughter his mother and young brother, Jorg has been driven to vent his rage.
Life and death are no more than a game to him and he has nothing left to lose. But treachery awaits him in his father's castle. Treachery and dark magic. No matter how fierce his will, can one young man conquer enemies with power beyond his imagining?