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2. Male characters that are set in their bachelor ways and mistreats heroine (rolls eyes)
3. Books narrated in 2nd person.
4. Books with cliche plotlines- rich boy/poor girl, player/goodgirl. The ones that takes 300 pages- of he likes me/he doesnt- just for the characters to act on their feelings.


The main reason for me boils down to the writing - for whatever reason I cannot connect to the characters or the plot and in the end I just don't care about the outcome.
As I look at everyone's list I am nodding my head like yep that is annoying and yep that suck but at the same time I can think of books I have finished and continued reading in the series with many of these challenges.

Present tense and first person is always tough and I think this is where snarky really grates my nerves...the character has to be really interesting and the book has to move fast. To example of good ones are Grimspace and Wicked Game


I actually never noticed this as an issue until someone pointed it out in a Common Mistakes Writers Make article, but now that I do it irritates me too. I probably wouldn't put a book down on the strength of just that though.
Sandra J wrote: "I'll generally give a book the first chapter to interest me in the main character."
Alisa wrote: " I won't even begin a book when the girl is a virgin, 25 or younger or there's any kind of millionaire/billionaire.."
Lol, that must cut down severely on the amount of PNR/UF available to you. Because of the genre writers will naturally choose young, female protagonists, but yeah, it is irritating if she's too much of a romantic cliché. If she's got issues about wanting or having sex it makes it hard for me to empathise with her. Another thing that irritates me is that, even if the lead female character is a centuries old succubus or vampire or something, she still has the attitude of a modern twenty-something American female...
@Dawn, I'll check out Grimspace, thanks. Although he's not PNR/UF I think Charles Stross does first person present tense quite well in The Atrocity Archives. He manages to give his writing an immediacy, as if you're hearing and seeing something happening in the now and it doesn't jar at all.
Bianca wrote: "Books with cliche plotlines- rich boy/poor girl, player/goodgirl. The ones that takes 300 pages- of he likes me/he doesnt- just for the characters to act on their feelings."
I think a lot of this is forced by authors. Good writing is supposed to be character driven, i.e. the actions and situations in the book develop naturally out of the desires and personalities of the characters in it. However, quite often in romance the situation and emotions are forced on the characters and the writing ends up flat and unnatural and clichéd.
Thanks for the replies everyone, I enjoyed reading them :)

I actually never noticed this as an issue until someone pointed it out in a Common Mistakes Writers Make article, but now that I do it irritates me..."
Yeah...I rarely read pnr anymore. I even find series that I used to love I can't stomach the new ones (ie Midnight Breed). There is still a lot of good UF out there though. And in UF I will often go a little lower on the age level of the heroine as they are usually tough and not fluffy, fragile types like you see in pnr and cont. romance.




I will say first person present tense drives me batty, but it's usually not enough for me to stop with the book. Thank you Mike for saying Hunger Games is written that way, because I still haven't jumped on that bandwagon and now I probably never will!



We start with our heroine finding a recently murdered victim late at night.
New chapter - new POV and now it is earlier in the afternoon before the murder.
Next chapter, back to first POV, police have arrived.
Next chapter, new character now it is the morning of the murder.
Next chapter - we stay with previous POV but it is now the afternoon of the murder again.
What the...?


I really hate that in "heroines". Why would an author think, "Hmmm, I think she needs to be a lot more whiny and run from uncomfortable situations because she's scared she might get hurt 10 years from now." Drives me nuts!

I hate it too!
1. Whiny, weak heroines or virginal heroines.
2. Cliché because usually the plot becomes predictable.

I hate it too!
1. Whiny, weak heroines or virginal heroines.
2. Cliché because usually the plot becomes predictable."
Exactly!

I also dislike factual errors, I know it's pedantic but when it's 'your subject' something that you know a lot about it's really off putting (I do a lot of sailing and it seems to be something that trips a lot of authors up and they write things that are impossible, it's on the level of writing about someone throwing a bouncy ball and it defying all the laws of physics, it's just wrong).
Also one thing I really really hate is violence against women being used as a plot point or for a (usually male) character's backstory (see women in refrigerators) if it's done well then I will read it but when it's done badly it just trivialises it.
I generally dislike anything that comes across as anti-women, abusive relationships being portrayed as romantic, slut shaming ect.

-TSTL heroines (goes with the whiny, virginal, weak)
-terrible writing (repetitiveness, telling, irrelevant details- some writers think they get paid by the word)
-really loathsome characters (sometimes a characters is just so awful I can't read about him/her anymore- White Horse is a book for example- "the Swiss" is just despicable, and BTW the heroine is TSTL)

Here's what confuses me. One of mine and some author friends' books have been criticised for a plot that is 'everywhere.' On digging deeper, we found this is code for two or more plot threads being interwoven. They preferred straight-forward mysteries.
Indeed, many reader friends say that with more and more books being released every month, they prefer to know exactly what they're getting before they get started, just so they avoid the dreaded unfinished book. Does it have a happily ever after? How long before the couple get together? How spicy does the intimacy get? How much humor does it contain? How guessable is the mystery?
I prefer to go in blind, perhaps with a blurb or a cover as guidance. But do others feel the same way? How much do you need to know before you dive into a book?
Books mentioned in this topic
The Atrocity Archives (other topics)Grimspace (other topics)
Wicked Game (other topics)
But there's usually a point in the book where I realise I don't want to read it any more. It could be the first sentence or half way through.
It's usually because of one of these three things:
1) Telling instead of showing.
2) Virginal heroines. I mean, is it really necessary?. It's the 21st century, that sort of thing went out of fashion fifty years ago.
3) Sentences that start with verbs. If book starts out something like: "Biting her lip, Chloe flicked her blonde fringe out of her eyes while she decided what to wear. Frowning, her eye roved over her extensive wardrobe..."
I put it down immediately.
So, I'm interested. What makes YOU put a book down? What books did you stop reading and why?