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message 1: by Anna (new) - added it

Anna i just heard abought The Guardian Article and im shocked though im not scared of the Author im not going to read this book ever anyone else feels this way


Brittain *Needs a Nap and a Drink* Yeahno. Authors need to stop acting like they are a protected class of citizen and nobody can say anything bad about their work. If someone doesn't like it, then grow a set and deal with it.

I'd be surprised if anybody on GR reviews another one of her books, other than to say she is a creepy crazy woman with mental issues.


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Anna Jenny and Brittain agree i also dont like that so many take her side and call Blythe a bully and a catfish what evidence do they have only the Authors psychotick ramblings that cant be taken siriusly and even if to imagine that Blythe is a bully its still no exuse to stallk someone and arrive at there doorstep what Hale did is illegal what Blythe did isnt so theres no way Hale is the victim here


Tessa I liked the book okay. It wasn't the greatest book I've ever read but it definitely wasn't the worst. It was really... strange in some parts and others it was boring. Idk.


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Anna Tessa wrote: "I liked the book okay. It wasn't the greatest book I've ever read but it definitely wasn't the worst. It was really... strange in some parts and others it was boring. Idk."

well i wont be riscing reading it anyway how do i know what to expect from the Author if she already acts this way and i dont want to paacriate criminal activities


message 6: by Clark (new)

Clark Boycotting Kathleen Hale for making Goodreads even the littlest bit unsafe. What an entitled nutjob she is. Communities of reviewers need to shut out this kind of behavior for our own wellbeing. Authors aren't entitled to reviews.


message 7: by Anna (last edited Oct 21, 2014 10:03AM) (new) - added it

Anna Claire wrote: "Boycotting Kathleen Hale for making Goodreads even the littlest bit unsafe. What an entitled nutjob she is. Communities of reviewers need to shut out this kind of behavior for our own wellbeing. Au..."
i might forgive her nutcase behaviur if she realises that theres no justification in her actions acepts that she needs help and has it and also apologises to Blythe and i mean realy apologises not this crazy thing she calls an apology and never dares threataning peoples private lives again i mean its the second time she does it


message 8: by Iris (last edited Oct 22, 2014 08:51AM) (new)

Iris Lian92 wrote: "i just heard abought The Guardian Article and im shocked though im not scared of the Author im not going to read this book ever anyone else feels this way"

On the contrary I WANT to read the book now. I WANT to see what all of the fuss is about. Why the reviewer gave it one star and why the author took it so offensively. Will I pay full price? Probably not. With everyone boycotting her book I'm sure I'll be able to find it in a secondhand book store or even on the curb in a 'recycle' box.

Either way I think you need to read the book to understand the story in its entirety.


message 9: by Kim (new)

Kim I'm waiting to read it one day, when I stumble on it in a used book store or something, im dying to read it actually, to see what the fuss is all about.


message 10: by Mochaspresso (last edited Oct 23, 2014 10:05AM) (new)

Mochaspresso I'm interested in seeing what the fuss is about, but the ebook is $9.99. I'll wait for a sale or perhaps if I find it used somewhere. I'm not too keen on paying that much for an ebook from a new author.


message 11: by Anna (last edited Oct 23, 2014 02:24PM) (new) - added it

Anna Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm interested in seeing what the fuss is about, but the ebook is $9.99. I'll wait for a sale or perhaps if I find it used somewhere. I'm not too keen on paying that much for an ebook from a new ..."

are any of you scared of writing a bad review for it some people desided not to read because they are afraid of what Hale can do but im not afraid of her i just dont feel like reading a book by an Author who has no respect for otheres privacy and beleives aniything can justify stallking but i heard an even werse thing hapen with a reviewer being attacket by the author i heard the guy hit her with a bottle on the head and whats next i mean she didnt kill anyone or something as bad she just wrote a review why something like a bad review should threaten peoples lives and privacy


Brittain *Needs a Nap and a Drink* Lian92 wrote: "Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm interested in seeing what the fuss is about, but the ebook is $9.99. I'll wait for a sale or perhaps if I find it used somewhere. I'm not too keen on paying that much fo..."

I am worried, not necessarily for my safety but other reviewers. I feel like an author would have to pretty damn stupid to come after someone they don't know in my state. The best thing to do, I think, is to report it if you don't feel safe. I will continue to leave appropriate and respectful reviews.


chloe I have already read the book and just thought it was okay. I definetly don't think the author handled the situation well at all, though. Every book will get negative reviews, and she should've just moved on instead of everything she did. All it did in the end was get her more negative and 1 star reviews!


Emma Deplores Goodreads Censorship I am sorry to see anybody reading this book as a result of the author's stalking behavior. Her book had not garnered all that much attention in the several months since it was released, and then she got a platform in a major publication and used it to share intimate details and identifying information about the reviewer, and get herself a huge amount of publicity in the process. Now everybody's talking about her, and if the end result is that people now want to read and talk about her book who didn't (and probably hadn't even heard of it) before, then this awful publicity stunt has succeeded for her, at the expense of the reviewer.


♡Karlyn P♡ Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm interested in seeing what the fuss is about, but the ebook is $9.99. I'll wait for a sale or perhaps if I find it used somewhere. I'm not too keen on paying that much for an ebook from a new ..."

The publisher RAISED the price of this book from $8.89 to $9.99 a few days after the debacle started. So all, please be aware they are milking money out of this controversy, and taking advantage of those who want to read it out of curiosity.


message 16: by Anna (last edited Oct 24, 2014 01:11PM) (new) - added it

Anna ♡Karlyn P♡ wrote: "Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm interested in seeing what the fuss is about, but the ebook is $9.99. I'll wait for a sale or perhaps if I find it used somewhere. I'm not too keen on paying that much fo..."

im never reading it and this is one more reoson why i mean how sinical to cash on a real crime


message 17: by Jes (new)

Jes B I'm too fucking scared to, now. I'm about to start my first Goodreads read-along review (Sorry, new to this and don't know the lingo) and I was so excited about it. Now I feel kind of like it's an act of bravery and a service to my fellow reader, lol. I wouldn't read a post-it note from that sick twist.


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah If someone handed me a free copy of this book I would take it out in my garden & set the bloody thing on fire so HELL NO will I ever read ANYTHING by this author or any of her supporters EVER!

It makes me sick that her completely unreasonable behaviour has got her so much publicity & that it's making people buy her book. The fact that the publisher not only won't make a statement about keeping reviewers information protected but they've even increased the price of her book to get more profit makes me seriously consider boycotting them too. I was against that originally because of all the innocent & wonderful authors they publish but am I seriously willing to give my money to such a morally bankrupt company? I'm just not sure about anything anymore!


message 19: by Figgy (new) - added it

Figgy I believe the term they're using is #HALENO, Sarah. :P

I'll read it, but only when I get my hands on a second hand copy. The author is not going to get a cent of my money.

Also, when Hale said the publishers confirmed books had been sent, there's a good chance she called and pretended to be the reviewer. Still not cool that they're maintaining radio silence over what she did, but I guess at least that's better than sticking up for what she did?

Maybe they're sticking to what Hale should have done from the start, and not responding.


message 20: by Sarah (new)

Sarah LMAO Figgy! Yeah I should have gone with haleNo there - especially since I've been tweeting it all bloody week.

Perhaps they're right not to respond about the whole situation but I still think a statement about protecting reviewers data is needed. People have legitimate reasons to be concerned!

I wouldn't put it past hale to pretend to be the reviewer to get that info, she's already shown she's willing to pretend to be someone she isn't. I wouldn't even be surprised to find out that nobody had confirmed anything for her & she was just lying & saying they had. She's so full of shit nothing she does will shock me!


message 21: by Figgy (new) - added it

Figgy It's definitely a cause for concern, as a reviewer myself.

It makes me reconsider listing my own address on my requests, and think about perhaps rerouting it through a PO Box, but that costs money AND delays the arrival of books.

It's not going to make me a dishonest reviewer, though. If I hate a book, my review will reflect that. And if you're too precious an author to deal with that, you really shouldn't BE an author.


message 22: by Sarah (new)

Sarah Figgy wrote: "It's not going to make me a dishonest reviewer, though. If I hate a book, my review will reflect that. And if you're too precious an author to deal with that, you really shouldn't BE an author."

Couldn't agree more with that! I'm a bit nervous about my address being out there, I'll certainly be more thoughtful about where it gets given in the future but I was always fairly careful anyway so I don't think much will change in that regard. If I could go back in time I'd certainly pick a pseudonym before I started reviewing though lol


message 23: by Lyndi W. (new) - added it

Lyndi W. I almost want her to stalk me. She'll probably learn her lesson when I unload a couple hundred paintballs into her car. If nothing else, it will make for a hilarious article on The Guardian.


message 24: by Figgy (new) - added it

Figgy Hey, she can stalk me all the way to Aus if she wants... Good luck to her.

I'm more worried about what might happen with local authors.


message 25: by Iris (new)

Iris Lmao. Lyndi, that was too funny.


message 26: by Figgy (new) - added it

Figgy And Lyndi, make sure you film it if that ever happens. That would be AMAZING to watch!


message 27: by Anna (new) - added it

Anna cool idea Lyndi you can also buy a water pistol


message 28: by Mark (new)

Mark Whilst the author admits what she did was strange it is more than countered by the initial behaviour of Blythe the pathetic Troll and her little band of bullies. Yes you are entitled to give a book a bad review but you are not entitled the bully other people who write good reviews and get your little gang to harass them. Your view is your view and that is the extent of it and if you can't handle different opinions than yours without resorting to bully tactics that makes you an enemy of free speech. So get off the authors back and put the blame for this where it truly lies with Blythe Harris.


message 29: by Figgy (new) - added it

Figgy I don't know Blythe, but I know people who are friends with her, and they really aren't the sort of people to bully people for liking a book.

Care to back up your accusations with proof?

It strikes me as odd that the author didn't mention anything about positive reviewers being attacked, if that was really what was happening.


message 30: by Mark (new)

Mark Check out website stopthegrbullies.com, Blythe is on a page called Badly Behaving Goodreaders and her online attack of a 14 year old who wrote a good review of a book Blythe did not like. Blythe rallied her followers to flood the girls thread. Bullying a 14 year old so mature, so pleasant, so courageous and a direct attack on somebody's right to free expression. As I said Blythe is entitled to her opinion and there it ends her behaviour beyond is reprehensible.


message 31: by Figgy (last edited Oct 27, 2014 02:37AM) (new) - added it

Figgy Mark wrote: "Check out website stopthegrbullies.com, Blythe is on a page called Badly Behaving Goodreaders and her online attack of a 14 year old who wrote a good review of a book Blythe did not like. Blythe rallied her followers to flood the girls thread. Bullying a 14 year old so mature, so pleasant, so courageous and a direct attack on somebody's right to free expression. As I said Blythe is entitled to her opinion and there it ends her behaviour beyond is reprehensible."

Mark, seriously, STGRB is not an argument.

STGRB are a group of people who take things reviewers say out of context and twist them so that the reviewers look like bad people. They're "championed" by Anne Rice. The woman who set HER rabid fans on a book blogger who had "the nerve" to use one of Anne's books for book craft. You want to see an attack? THAT was an attack.

I'm not sure what happened in the situation with the 14 year old, but based on the "quality" of other articles by STGRB, I'm inclined to believe there was more that went on behind the scenes. Like maybe the 14 year old initiated things, and attacked Blythe for NOT liking the book, maybe called Blythe names, told her she was an illiterate liar who was just jealous, or some such.

Like I said, I didn't witness the 14 year old thing, but I've seen fans of books attacking negative reviewers before, and calling them every name under the sun.


message 32: by Figgy (new) - added it

Figgy You should also check out this site, about the site that claims to be about stopping "bullies".

http://stopthegrbullies.net/


message 33: by Lyndi W. (new) - added it

Lyndi W. Referencing "STGRB" in an argument about authors vs reviewers is like mentioning Hitler in an argument about crowd control. Or referencing PETA in an argument about saving abandoned household pets. It doesn't make the point you think it does. All it does is show others that you're a hypocrite and the type of person to fall hook, line, and sinker for news articles published by The Onion.

But that's not surprising when your profile screams "troll"...


message 34: by Mark (new)

Mark Never surprised by the desperate attempts to justify the unjustifiable I respect your opinion and your right to hold it as long as you have the same understanding as me that your opinion is just that your opinion as mine is mine and I would never invoke anyone to support me against someone who disagrees with me not something understood by the bully. As for your comparisons of Hitler and PETA it is a comparison you are entitled to make albeit one I find spurious but hey thats just my view.


Brittain *Needs a Nap and a Drink* You do realize that this woman has made it effectively dangerous for someone to post an honest opinion, right?

We, as reviewers, have the right to discuss books among our friends and tell them to not read a book if we don't like it. She, however, never has nor will she ever have the right to put someone's safety at risk. Did you hear about the girl who was clobbered over the head with a wine bottle by an author who didn't like her review?

This is scary stuff. There is a certain aspect of "Don't feed the trolls" and if you aren't mature enough to read a bad review and accept it, I suggest finding a different profession.

It is amazing, Mark, how easily you have shrugged off her stalking a woman. Do you know how scary being stalked is? I do. I've been followed to my house and been called in the middle of the night. I've had my tires slashed and been nearly hit on my way to soccer practice. Do you want that to be common practice? Do you want it to be ok to never be able to speak your mind for fear of retribution? Because that is what it seems you are saying.

Place blame where blame lies. The author made a choice and it was a horrible one.


message 36: by Anna (new) - added it

Anna Mark but you are the one who is justifiying the unjustfiable even if Blythe did something wrong she wasnt the one to phisicaly interagate someone at there home you can do watever online but geting in to a persons real private space is a complitly diferent thing Blythe didnt folow anyone to there home and watch them but Hale did so she is the bully in the story


message 37: by Mark (new)

Mark cest la vie have expressed my opinion I don't need you to agree with me to feel validated. Au revoir and bon nuit.


message 38: by Anna (new) - added it

Anna Mark wrote: "cest la vie have expressed my opinion I don't need you to agree with me to feel validated. Au revoir and bon nuit."

well goodbie and good luck and i realy hope you will never be be in Blythes place


message 39: by G. (last edited Oct 27, 2014 04:10PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

G. Mark wrote: "Check out website stopthegrbullies.com, Blythe is on a page called Badly Behaving Goodreaders and her online attack of a 14 year old who wrote a good review of a book Blythe did not like. Blythe ra..."

You just shat upon your whole argument by citing STGRBs. Where are they now? They are no longer posting Mark.

I also believe you are of the KH camp, desperate to be relevant. Fact-checking is important, and you don't appear to find this important. Move on dear-heart, you are much too obvious to be taken seriously. ;)

ETA: This entity just joined this site this month. Hmmm...?


message 40: by TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ (last edited Oct 27, 2014 04:19PM) (new) - added it

TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ Mark wrote: "Never surprised by the desperate attempts to justify the unjustifiable I respect your opinion and your right to hold it as long as you have the same understanding as me that your opinion is just that your opinion as mine is mine and I would never invoke anyone to support me against someone who disagrees with me not something understood by the bully. As for your comparisons of Hitler and PETA it is a comparison you are entitled to make albeit one I find spurious but hey thats just my view."


lol...whut? Punctuation is your friend, Mark. Seriously.

Also, you do realize that you're justifying stalking, yes?

Talk about trying to justify the unjustifiable. Wow.

And I doubt very much that Mark is interested in facts, but here are a whole bunch.

http://alex-hurst.com/2014/10/21/kath...


eta: accidentally hit post before I was finished.


TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ Mark wrote: "Whilst the author admits what she did was strange it is more than countered by the initial behaviour of Blythe the pathetic Troll and her little band of bullies. Yes you are entitled to give a book..."


You may want to be careful when calling people trolls and accusing them of trolling.

Seeing as how you opened an acct simply to give this book, involved in a controversy, five-stars and post antagonistic comments in regards to the controversy.

I'm pretty sure you would fall smack into the standard definition of a troll and trolling.

Just sayin'


message 42: by Anna (new) - added it

Anna TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ wrote: "Mark wrote: "Whilst the author admits what she did was strange it is more than countered by the initial behaviour of Blythe the pathetic Troll and her little band of bullies. Yes you are entitled t..."
i dont think Mark is a troll but calling someone a troll and saying it justifies them being violated is redicolous nothing exuses such vile acts plus i still dont see any real evidence of Blythes misdooings while there are plenty of Hales i mean not to even mention but what abought her previus stallking reputation for what she was even arrested


TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ Lian92 wrote: "TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ wrote: "Mark wrote: "Whilst the author admits what she did was strange it is more than countered by the initial behaviour of Blythe the pathetic Troll and her little b..."


I'm usually reluctant to call people trolls, but in this case, I'm pretty comfortable with it.

If it quacks like a duck and all that.


message 44: by Anna (last edited Oct 27, 2014 05:34PM) (new) - added it

Anna TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ wrote: "Lian92 wrote: "TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ wrote: "Mark wrote: "Whilst the author admits what she did was strange it is more than countered by the initial behaviour of Blythe the pathetic Troll a..."

but to him and anyone else who thinks what Hale did is ok even if Blythe is a troll its no exuse to arrive at her house and call her work but im still kind of not shere Mark is a troll i saw him rate some other books to but i dont agree with him anyway


message 45: by TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ (last edited Oct 27, 2014 06:04PM) (new) - added it

TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ Lian92 wrote: "TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ wrote: "Lian92 wrote: "TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ wrote: "Mark wrote: "Whilst the author admits what she did was strange it is more than countered by the initial be..."


Look closer.

He added his first book 17 hours and 34 minutes ago. Likely b/c GRs prompted him to when he opened his account today. His first, and only, comment here was posted 17 hours and 14 minutes ago. Twenty minutes after he added his first book. Look at the books on his shelves. Then look at the book and author he's here posting about.

Is it possible he's not a troll and he's just some regular univolved user, who decided to open an acct today and just happened to stumble across this book and this thread and it just prompted him to look at Hales article and come voice his opinion here and call people trolls and bullies?

Sure.

It is likely?

Not very, if at all. No.

I hadn't looked at his profile before I responded to him or I wouldn't have bothered b/c he's most likely just trying to get reactions. (aka trolling) Maybe pointing it out will save someone else from wasting their time taking him seriously.


message 46: by Mochaspresso (last edited Oct 27, 2014 07:22PM) (new)

Mochaspresso I'm not condoning what the author did at all, but it seems like she targeted this particular reviewer for a reason. She had past "history" with this particular reviewer and they were interacting with each other online. She has 24 negative reviews on Amazon. She didn't stalk all 24 of those people. I don't think random people have to worry about their objectively written negative reviews. This Blythe person wasn't randomly targeted solely because of a bad review.


Brittain *Needs a Nap and a Drink* Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm not condoning what the author did at all, but it seems like she targeted this particular reviewer for a reason. She had "past history" with this particular reviewer. She has 24 negative revie..."

Even if this reviewer responded to her, saying that she hated the book or whatever and told her friends not to read it, it still does not justify her actions in any way. The author should be more mature and...stable than that.


TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ Mochaspresso wrote: "I'm not condoning what the author did at all, but it seems like she targeted this particular reviewer for a reason. She had "past history" with this particular reviewer. She has 24 negative revie..."


I'm assuming you didn't read the link I posted in message 41

She did focus on Blythe. That doesn't mean her focus was deserved.


message 49: by Mochaspresso (new)

Mochaspresso Brittain wrote: "Even if this reviewer responded to her, saying that she hated the book or whatever and told her friends not to read it, it still does not justify her actions in any way. The author should be more mature and...stable than that.




Totally agree. My point was about how some people were stating that they were now afraid to post a negative review. I was stating that I don't believe that there is any reason to be afraid. This Blythe person was interacting with the author and was targeted for other reasons besides her negative review.


Brittain *Needs a Nap and a Drink* Mochaspresso wrote: "Brittain wrote: "Even if this reviewer responded to her, saying that she hated the book or whatever and told her friends not to read it, it still does not justify her actions in any way. The author..."

There was also another reviewer that was hit over the head with a wine bottle by a crazy author over a negative review and had to be taken to the hospital and stitched up.


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