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message 51: by Jonetta (new)

Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15094 comments Mod
This does have some really tough moments. Nixie is such a brave child.


message 52: by Michelle (last edited Oct 25, 2014 04:07AM) (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments I just read the Dysons not being able to take Nixie. I just have to say that the fact the father is so destroyed by this makes it that much more sad for me. Any time a male is that heartbroken about anything it seems to me that the tragedy is that much more.
And how sad. What this couple must not be going through. At the end I had to say how courageous of them to admit that it would truly not have been in Nixie's best interest. “Nothing that happened that night is her fault.”

“Oh, I know it. I know it. But I wonder how long, if I did what Keelie and Grant asked, it would take for me to have her blaming herself. ". That just said it all for me.

Also the scene with Roarke and Nixie ...... For the first really you felt what he as child endured. There are always hint but this is the the first time he really thinks on it. And then that all followed but his chat with Nixie.

Must say Eve and Roarke being scared to the point of her telling him to not breath and sort of glide was lol funny! Her are these tough as nails couple but the thought of having to deal with girl scares them witless. Priceless.


message 53: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
Yes, Michelle. The Dyson's total pain & heartbreak is part of the devastation so clearly depicted in this book. It really broke my heart to read it. And I really loved Nixie with Roarke...the way Roarke raced to her room when she was screaming with nightmares - not thinking, just grabbing her & holding her...just as he does with Eve. Very telling, beautiful moments.


message 54: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Oh my I just got to the part where Nixie goes to morgue to see her family. I can't help but cry. It breaks my heart.


message 55: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments Same here Sharon. Except I'm at work waiting to go on stage. Wow had to stop before I started crying my makeup off!!! And then that quote. ,!!
“Grace was in all her steps, heaven in her eye, in every gesture dignity and love.'”


Brilliant writing Robb. Everything from the moment Summerset jumped at Eve to this. Building up the emotions. ,! Just brilliant.


message 56: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
How exciting Michelle! Walking out on stage to sing must be a real thrill!

I agree...brilliantly written - all the pain & anguish is there but then we see the dignity and all the love and it gives us hope.


message 57: by Jonetta (new)

Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15094 comments Mod
I was thinking the same thing! (About Michelle:))


message 58: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments It is exiting. But this is mozart and the chorus sits around more than sing and when we do go on it's about 5 mins. Corset is killing me. Love my work. And so I'm able to read and catch up. ;-)


message 59: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
Still very exciting! Corset? Not so much! lol Good Luck Michelle. Nice to have a job that gives you so much reading time.


message 60: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments Just uploaded a pic in my costume. Trust me this corset is a killer to sit around in. ;-)


message 61: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments Emotional scene abound in this one.
But I wondered what would happen first : Captain Eve Dallas or Eve the mother ?

Also I love the fact that Roarke has the photo of his mother and him as a baby out.


message 62: by Sharon (last edited Oct 25, 2014 10:36AM) (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Michelle wrote: "Same here Sharon. Except I'm at work waiting to go on stage. Wow had to stop before I started crying my makeup off!!! And then that quote. ,!!
“Grace was in all her steps, heaven in her eye, in ev..."


I agree. Love Morris too.

It is just perfect mean Summerset, Peabody to Eve's defense, Mira nasty, the morgue scene, Summerset's talk with Nixie, Summerset's apology, Roarke's comfort and then ending with a smile when Roarke talks about "having children" and Eve almost has a heart attack.

“One day being far, far in the future. Like, I don’t know, say a decade when . . . Hold on. Children is plural.” He eased back, grinned. “Why, so it is— nothing slips by my canny cop.”


message 63: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Michelle where do you perform?


message 64: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments That whole scen and the subsequent ones are so powerful


message 65: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments Sorry Sharon. I work for Cape Town Opera. And that where we are based.


message 66: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "Yes, Michelle. The Dyson's total pain & heartbreak is part of the devastation so clearly depicted in this book. It really broke my heart to read it. And I really loved Nixie with Roarke...the way..."

The issue with the Dysons just seems so real, so grounded. It's what would actually happen. You want to be angry with them but your heart just breaks -- for everyone.


message 67: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments And as Mira says it's not just the Dyson's that would have had a constant reminder but it would have Nixie struggling with her survivors guilt. Not a good situation all round.


message 68: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
I agree...the Dyson's situation was perfectly, realistically, written. It would be hard to live with the constant reminder...and that's nobody's fault.


message 69: by Jonetta (new)

Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 15094 comments Mod
I remember initially thinking the Dysons were being unfair but the further I got into the story, the more it made sense and actually felt like an act of kindness to Nixie. That poor child would have ended up riddled with survivor's guilt no matter how hard they would try not to have that happen.


message 70: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Especially with the poor father. I think the reason the mother could function was that she was a doctor and trained in some ways to isolate certain emotions. It just broke my heart thinking of him.


message 71: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments Kirsten wrote: "Especially with the poor father. I think the reason the mother could function was that she was a doctor and trained in some ways to isolate certain emotions. It just broke my heart thinking of him."

Jonetta wrote: "I remember initially thinking the Dysons were being unfair but the further I got into the story, the more it made sense and actually felt like an act of kindness to Nixie. That poor child would hav..."


So well written. IMHO so far in the series this is the most heart wrenching.


message 72: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments Okay. I need that flower.


And my own Roarke to share it with.

Not so big a request really. . . . . . .


message 73: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
I agree, Michelle...not too much to ask at all! I hope you find your own Roarke someday.


message 74: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) At this point, I'd even settle for my own McNab.


message 75: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Michelle wrote: "Okay. I need that flower.


And my own Roarke to share it with.

Not so big a request really. . . . . . ."


I want that flower too. As wonderful as the flower is I think Roarke is the cherry on top. Love him.


message 76: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Kirsten wrote: "At this point, I'd even settle for my own McNab."

Agree


message 77: by Sharon (last edited Oct 25, 2014 02:00PM) (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments My heart breaks for the Dysons. My first thought was every future anniversary is ruined for them. It will forever be associated with the death of their daughter.


message 78: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments What a great point Sharon !! I hadn't thought of it like that. Although I have a similar experience in the sense that something horrible happened on my mother bday , those first few years were horrible but as time goes by it Dow fade but isn't forgotten.

I'm finished This book brought me closer somehow , to Roarke. His struggle with and about his family and where and what he has become. Loved his discussion with Summerset. Most of he time it Eve and Summerset but that scene was so touching Also loved Summerset going to Eve to apologise and waiting for the room to clear.


message 79: by Sheri (new)

Sheri Morell (smorell22) | 2165 comments this book always hits close to home for me...probably because I have experienced a lose of a child but I was able to understand why the Dysons weren't able to take Nixie. it would have been a constant reminder for all involved.


message 80: by Sandra (last edited Oct 26, 2014 07:12PM) (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
Heart-breaking scene when Nixie sees her dead parents...holding Eve's hand as she lays her little head on her mother's chest listening for the thump of a heartbeat that isn't there. Wow...I had to wipe tears reading that.

And we all know children are Not in Roarke & Eve's future but interesting that Roarke tells Eve he wants their children in this one...sometime way in the future, of course. But I really loved that scene...Nixie has really touched him deeply & he feels guilty over not feeling that it's the right time for them to keep her...but he does express a desire to have them at a future time.


message 81: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) You know, I know JDR has vetoed the baby until the end. I used to just get crazy about that. But then I realized only 2 years has passed in IN DEATH time. Not the nearly 20 years of our time!


message 82: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 3250 comments Lol Kirsten...I constantly remind myself of that. This is one of my top five of the series. I think I cried throughout the entire book.


message 83: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments Sandra I read that scene at work. Thank goodness for waterproof mascara but it was touch and go with my liquid eye liner !!!

After this book I sort of can't wait to see either of them as parent really. That book will be filled , I'm sure, with laugh out loud moments from start to finish!!!


message 84: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
I know...and I know children are NOT in the picture. It was just lovely hearing those heart felt words coming out of Roarke's mouth...and Even's reaction to them. For so much pain & heartache, this is really a beautiful book. Well done JD Robb!


message 85: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments I often wonder if JD has written the last book since she says once Eve & Roarke have a child the series will end. The series is still so popular I can't see her ending it any time soon; I was thinking maybe she has the last book written and it will publish when she retires then she won't have to listen to any complaints. You know no matter what happens there will be people who don't like how it ends.


message 86: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) I think she may have done. Also, I think if the characters or the series starts to be work or a chore, I think she'd stop.


message 87: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Kirsten wrote: "I think she may have done. Also, I think if the characters or the series starts to be work or a chore, I think she'd stop."

Somehow I don't think Nora/JD thinks writing is a chore at all. From what I read her publisher thought she was writing too many books thus the "In Death" series pseudonym. She can spit out books faster than any other author I know. (Not counting authors who co-write). The only way I see her stopping is if she has a major illness or decides to retire. Writing must be like therapy for her. I expect she will be like Barbara Cartland and publish until she dies.


message 88: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) No, and that's why she continues writing about Eve, Roarke, and company. I just meant if she ever gets to the point where she's there... she'll probably wrap things up.


message 89: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
Love the scene with McNab & Peabody speeding toward Nebraska!! Both of them had to brush the rats nests out of their hair...just love them as a couple. And really impressed with McNab stepping up to be the "bad cop".


message 90: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "Love the scene with McNab & Peabody speeding toward Nebraska!! Both of them had to brush the rats nests out of their hair...just love them as a couple. And really impressed with McNab stepping up..."

I like that scene too. The Peabody kept coming up with reasons why she should drive and McNab countering each one. Love them.


message 91: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments I was just thinking Eve & Roarke have such a damaged history and Peabody and McNab come from a relatively normal and loving family they complement each other as couples.


message 92: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Well, I wouldn't call Peabody's family NORMAL. Loving, yes. Healthy, yes. Normal? Uh-uh.


message 93: by Sandra (last edited Oct 27, 2014 08:20PM) (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
Eve on her knees, injured, holding that bloody knife over the killer while Roarke watched, also injured...wow! Nixie holding Eve's bloody hand, walking over to look at the man who killed her parents & telling him that Eve was going cage his g.d. *ss...wow! I am seriously blown away by this book - yes, I'd read it before but it had been some time ago & emotionally, it just hit me harder this time. Wow.


message 94: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 2667 comments I felt the same Sandra. I haven't read the last a three books yet. I'm enjoy the buddy read that I'm almost keeping till we get there. How long that will last I don't know.


message 95: by Sandra (new)

Sandra Hoover (sandrahoover) | 11244 comments Mod
I'll get the next one loaded up in a thread & shoot for starting it this weekend. Loving our buddy reads!


message 96: by Sharon (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Kirsten wrote: "Well, I wouldn't call Peabody's family NORMAL. Loving, yes. Healthy, yes. Normal? Uh-uh."

I agree they aren't the traditional normal but they are examples of good families for Eve & Roarke.


message 97: by Sharon (last edited Oct 28, 2014 06:15PM) (new)

Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3067 comments Sandra I feel the same way. This book just tears me apart. There are so many emotional scenes and that one brings an emotional ending to the book.

In that same scene when Eve said to Roarke "you would let me do it" (not sure if that is a direct quote) and Roarke said "we would learn to live with it". He knew she wouldn't kill him but he had to let Eve see for herself. They are so in tune with each other.


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