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May I add that some editors are beta readers, too. So, writers get an editors perspective (for free). I am an editor who beta reads, occasionally. It helps me keep my skills sharpened and focused. And, it exposes me to genres I may not have been fully exposed to as often as I'd like.Thank you, authors!
Barbara wrote: "unfortunately we love our babies and don't see their flows - that's what betas are for! ;)"Special cuddles for you !!! You really lifted me up that day when I was all set to give up ... :)
Helen wrote: "May I add that some editors are beta readers, too. So, writers get an editors perspective (for free). I am an editor who beta reads, occasionally. It helps me keep my skills sharpened and focused. ..."lol ... dont tell me you are a beta-reader !!! :P I will just catch you and make you read my story :D
Silver wrote: "Barbara wrote: "unfortunately we love our babies and don't see their flows - that's what betas are for! ;)"Special cuddles for you !!! You really lifted me up that day when I was all set to give ..."
like they say in Galaxy Quest: "Never give up, never surrender!"
You might give up trying to publish, but never give up writing! ;)
Another editor who beta reads here. I agree, the process helps both writer and reader. And in my case several beta reads have turned into editing/proof reading or other work.
You're welcome to, but I make a small charge for my reads and I'm booked a month or two ahead, so best to book your slot early. I usually add names to my list and then call for the file when I get to that point.
Lin wrote: "You're welcome to, but I make a small charge for my reads and I'm booked a month or two ahead, so best to book your slot early. I usually add names to my list and then call for the file when I get ..."I am just finishing the first draft ... long way before I feel it's worth being professionally edited ... :(
Have you looked into the difference between alpha readers and beta readers? Alphas are involved at a much earlier stage and provide developmental feedback, while betas help with fine tuning. Some people are willing to alpha read, others prefer beta. Personally I enjoy both, but alpha takes longer to do.
Lin wrote: "Have you looked into the difference between alpha readers and beta readers? Alphas are involved at a much earlier stage and provide developmental feedback, while betas help with fine tuning. Some p..."Lin, to be honest Alpha readers are enough for me just now ... I can't pay for professional advice just now :(... writing is the pleasure ... publishing comes or not comes ... I don't care
You can find both alpha and beta readers for free, but just for the record my fee is £50 for a manuscript of up to 100k words, which reflects the time spent making notes and writing a report rather than the time spent reading as well.
Good luck with your writing, and above all enjoy it.
Good luck with your writing, and above all enjoy it.
It also depends what you want from the readers - just the readers' impressions on plot, pacing, etc or a more thorough think like Lin says...
What you need is the most important thing to remember. I would never pay for a beta, no offense but I wouldn't. Now if my beta was proofreading/editing then that's completely different, but I wouldn't have a beta work at that level until I've had at least one basic beta read.I think, in my opinion, betas are that crucial step between your first personally edited copy and your editing/proofreading.
Beta reading should not be raw chapters...it can be....but it should not. Honestly if you need raw chapter comments try a writer's group...Critique Circle is where I started...and it is a great resource for the new writer! And it is FREE!Beta reading is basically the substantive edit portion of your review if you have a publisher. They point out issues with the story, and ask you to correct them.
But this is where I think a publisher is a huge help...because when some random person online says I don't like this....you tend to shrug it off. When that person is involved in the process and is trying to sell your book...it makes a real mental difference.
So if you really want to make the best of a beta reader:
Choose carefully, make sure they are a good audience, and a good knowledgable reader in your genre.
Consider every suggestion and prepare a real argument as if you were trying to convince a concerned party why you don't want to change something.
Read that argument and decide if you had a good point without considering your bias...maybe have a trusted friend, family member, or partner do it.
Some will be easy....but really think about all of them.
Only when you do that will beta reading be valuable!



So a very big thank you to all the writers who trusted me enough to send me their books. I hope I did them justice. :)
And also to everyone who beta-read my crude chapters. Today because of all those people, my novel is actually looking like a novel. And thank you to all those who pumped back courage in me whenever I felt like giving up. :)