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Do you think the TV Series is influencing the way you interpret the book

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message 151: by Sandy (last edited Nov 10, 2014 12:56PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sandy If I remember correctly, Claire did say in the first book that she weighs 9 stones (126 lbs) in the scene that Jamie sleeps in front of her door in the inn and she steps on him.

Later, Jamie said in one of the scenes that he outweighs her for at least 5 stones, so 14 stones = 196 lbs.

I read in an interview that Sam spent three months to bulk up. He also has to be careful not to bulk up too much to be unrealistic. Jamie is big from working in a farm, not from going to gym.

Balfe is a bit too tall for Claire because in the book she is 5 feet 6 inches tall. However, if they want her to look taller or as tall as men in the show. Balfe's height might serve the purpose.

I think they are both doing a great job. I watch the show before reading the book although I wanted to read the book for a while. To me, it seems they fit in their roles and descriptions well. (Unlike True Blood, Sookie should be natural blonde and Bill should have brown eyes.) Besides, they have good chemistry between them.

After watching the show and reading the book, I read the past discussions about Outlander imaginary casts. I found that there are some actress that might be more suitable than Cait. I can easily imagine other actresses as Claire. However, Sam is irreplaceable. I really can't see Chris Hemsworth as Jamie, apart from the fact that he is too expensive to be in the show. Sam is a Scot, so he has believable accent.

About the story, I feel that the show does not deviate much from the book. Of course, the show is more dramatized. Many dialogues are exactly the same. I almost gave up on the show after watching the first episode of Claire and Frank. It was so boring that I almost fell asleep. I had to keep telling myself that it's gonna be better when Claire meets Jamie, and it is. The landscapes are so beautiful that I would really love to visit and drive around the highlands in Scotland.


message 152: by Shawn (new) - rated it 5 stars

Shawn Bird Mrsbooks wrote: "Zoey wrote: "Mrsbooks wrote: "Does anyone know what Jamie's weight is supposed to be in the books? I know it says it somewhere. I'm just curious. Because to me, Sam fits Jamie perfectly. And look..."

Diana has always said Jamie is built "lean like a basketball player." She had to reiterate this over and over last summer when Sam was initially cast, because apparently a lot of people imagined Jamie had carrot orange hair and was built like a linebacker. She had quite a lot to say about that, as you can imagine. It was highly entertaining. :-) She said Sam is the perfect build with his lean tri-athlete body. He is only one inch shorter than Jamie is described.


Jeanine Celentano It's funny sandy she almost gave up on the show bc of frank and Claire
That's how I felt about the book at first. I keep the book separate from the show. Although I do think the actors and actresses fit the bill


message 154: by Shawn (new) - rated it 5 stars

Shawn Bird Jeanine wrote: "It's funny sandy she almost gave up on the show bc of frank and Claire
That's how I felt about the book at first. I keep the book separate from the show. Although I do think the actors and actresse..."


When I introduce the book to people I always tell them to keep reading until chapter 15. Once they've read the wedding night, they're hooked. :-) I had to force my husband (for him, I just told him to skip to where she goes through the stones).

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message 155: by Sandy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sandy Well, I actually talked my husband into watching the show with me by telling him that it was made from very famous adventure novels. (Well, it would be more difficult to convince him by telling him that it was from romance novels.)

While we were watching the first episode and yawning together, I had to keep telling him that the adventurous parts haven't started yet. He started to like the show after the third or fourth episode though.


Becky ♡The Bookworm♡ gertt wrote: "Shawn wrote: "Diana has always said Jamie is built "lean like a basketball player." She had to reiterate this over and over last summer when Sam was initially cast, because apparently a lot of peop..."

I wonder if people mistake his "larger than life" presence for a physical build? When Claire picks him out in a crowd what stands out is the way he carries himself, always confident and strong, never giving away his thoughts or feelings. In those situations, Claire could only tell if he was anxious if he twitched his fingers slightly. Definitely not a poker face kind of guy.


message 157: by Mrsbooks (last edited Nov 11, 2014 03:20AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mrsbooks Becky ♡The Bookworm♡ wrote: "gertt wrote: "Shawn wrote: "Diana has always said Jamie is built "lean like a basketball player." She had to reiterate this over and over last summer when Sam was initially cast, because apparently..."

He also stands out so much because the height of most men at that time is shorter. Claire says her 5'6 is average for most men and she can look them straight in the eye.

For me, I did picture Jamie with more orange hair and the reason is because Claire constantly says how she can spot him in a crowd (not just because of his height) but because of his hair.

Personally, I wouldn't notice an auburn haired person in a crowd. And that's what Jamie is, it's not what most people think when someone says the color red. If you were to put a blonde in a a room with dark haired people, I'd see that quickly. If you put someone with more orange in their hair in a room with practically any color, I could pick that out too. But to me, auburn does not stand out in a crowd.


message 158: by Diane (new) - rated it 5 stars

Diane I did picture Jamie's hair being brighter although not the carrot red some people think of. The way the series is shot - kind of darkish and wet a lot- his hair usually looks more brown than red or auburn. I think Sam is awesome though and I really don't even think of that because he becomes Jamie to me. When it is mentioned though, I think they should have used a slightly brighter color when dying his hair for the part.


message 159: by Diane (new) - rated it 5 stars

Diane gertt wrote: "If the person with auburn hair was 6'4", he would be easy to pick out in a crowd."

especially back then when most men were shorter - would not matter what the hair color was. My husband is 6'3" and even by today's standards he is taller than average though I wouldn't say he stands out.


message 160: by Jacqui (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jacqui "Personally, I wouldn't notice an auburn haired person in a crowd. And that's what Jamie is, it's not what most people think when someone says the color red. If you were to put a blonde in a a room with dark haired people, I'd see that quickly. If you put someone with more orange in their hair in a room with practically any color, I could pick that out too. But to me, auburn does not stand out in a crowd."

LOL as a mum to a 7 year old with bright auburn hair with gold/cinnamon tones, believe me I can always spot him in a crowd, especially if the sun is shining!


Mrsbooks gertt wrote: "Jacqui wrote: ""Personally, I wouldn't notice an auburn haired person in a crowd. And that's what Jamie is, it's not what most people think when someone says the color red. If you were to put a blo..."

Yes exactly my point! I envisioned Jamie, from the descriptions in the books with a different color hair than Sam on the show for those very reasons. So I understand why those fans pictured Jamie with bright orange hair. That's not how I imagined him myself, but it was definitely different than how they've portrayed Sam's hair. It just doesn't stand out to me as "red", the way it's described in the books.


Jeanine Celentano I did not picture Jaime with bright red hair. More of a dark rust color


message 163: by Shawn (new) - rated it 5 stars

Shawn Jeanine wrote: "I did not picture Jaime with bright red hair. More of a dark rust color"

Me too ... Dark red with lighter tones.


message 164: by Jacqui (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jacqui Lol I think I've been misquoted or I did my quote of the original person badly! I always thought of Jamie as auburn, don't think he was ever described as a red head... that's why I liken his hair colour to my sons - auburn/gold/cinnamon, pale browns and it changes colour depending on the light he's in - beautiful *sigh* Definitely something you'd spot in a crowd! (And his name is James too hehe)


message 165: by Brizo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brizo Cindy wrote: "Shaye wrote: "I think Sam is a perfect representation of Jaime Fraser. The book character is larger than life because he is a fictional character. It would have been impossible to find an exact rep..."
I don't think so, Cait and Sam have such a great screen presence both the show and in real life, they are perfectly suited to each other. I've heard Ron say that when he saw them together it was that chemistry that sold them on her. And I think she's been nailing every scene. She's not only beautiful, she has a great personality and it comes through in her eyes, her facial expressions. She is so my vision of what Claire would of been. I think the casting was brilliantly done so far. I can't wait to see who they pick for Roger and Bree and Lord John.


message 166: by Betta (new) - rated it 5 stars

Betta Gillespie I didn't like Frank at all in the books... I am on #4 but through the tv show I am beginning to understand why Clair wears her wedding ring from him. Because they had z bond its just nothing compared to clair and Jamie's. LOVE THE BOOKS and TV SERIES!!


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