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Sherri Cooper, aka Simi Valley Sherri
Susan Scott, aka Stephanie Rowe
Claudia Smith, Manson Family member married to Bill Vance of the fabled vest
Diane Von Ahn
Vern Plumlee
This is the 'youngest looking' photo of Jay Sebring I could find. No idea of his age here, 'cause it didn't state that.
Mansons and associates
1. Charlie Manson (correct)
2. Bobby Beausoleil (correct)
3. Danny DeCarlo (correct)
4. Steve Grogan (correct)
5. Sandy Good (correct)
6. Al Springer (correct)
7. Kenneth Bell
8. Susan Atkins (correct)
9. Kenneth Bell
10. Bruce Hall
11. Leslie Van Houten (correct)
12. Sherry Cooper
13. Susan Scott (correct)
14. Ella Jo Bailey (correct)
15. Mary Brunner (correct)
16. Patricia Krenwinkel (correct)
17. Bryan Lukashevsky
18. Catherine "Gypsy" Share (correct)
19. David Hannum
20. Larry Craven
21. Phil Phillips (correct)
22. Harold True
23. Charles "Tex" Watson (correct)
24. Juan Flynn (correct)
25. Larry Bailey (this does not resemble Larry Bailey)
26. Mark Bloodworth Damion (now this guy does look like Larry Bailey)
27. Susan Bartel (correct)
29. Johnny Scwartz
30. Vern Plumlee
31. Stephen Palazzo
32. Karate David Lipsett (can this even be a girl's name?)
33. Colleen Sinclair (misnumbered? this is not Stephanie)
33. Stephanie Schram (definitely)
35. Nancy Pitman (correct)
36. Dianne Lake (correct)
37. Kathryn Lutesinger (whoever that guy is, he is NOT Kitty Lutesinger)
38. Thomas Walleman
39. Allen Delisle (this looks like Catherine Gillies to me)
40. Charlee Griffin
41. Bruce Davis (correct)
42. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme (correct)
43. Laura Shepard
44. Ruth Ann Moorehouse (correct)
45. Madaline Cottage (correct)
46. Maria Alonzo
47. Barbara Rosenberg
48. Linda Kasabian (correct)
49. Diane Von Ahn (correct)
50. Barbara Hoyt (correct)
51. Claudia Smith (correct)
52. William Vansicle (but isn't this William Cole, aka Bill Vance, aka David Hamic?)
53. Paul Watkins (correct)
54. Jack Gordon
55. Carol Loveless
56. Ruth Gordon
57. Raymond Petrizzo
58. Robert Murray? (I thought this was John Philip Haught, aka "Zero")
59. Thomas Galella
60. Robert Reinhard
There is something terribly wrong with the numbers and names on the site where I got this lineup, https://rxstr.com/2013/11/24/charles-...
I have tried counting forwards from #1 and backwards from #60 and I can't make it match up properly. It would help if I already knew all these people by name. I keep stumbling across a woman with a man's name or someone whose name I thought I knew with a different name, stuff like that. Guh. There's no #28 because I started renumbering everything backward starting with 60, assuming I must have given 2 people the same number or something, and found so many discrepancies I threw my hands up and quit.
Vickie wrote: "Just finished the book Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and The Secret History of the Sixties. Wondered if you had read it and what you thought of it? It was very interesting, learned a lot of thing..."Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties, Tom O'Neill
3 stars
I was fascinated with this book but it tried to do way too much and didn't really accomplish anything clearly, at least in my eyes. This book goes off in so many directions and doesn't really end up anywhere. The author raises a lot of excellent questions, and even answers a handful of them, but never in a totally satisfying way because of all the long detours into other areas, some of which I can only describe as red herrings, like the trip down the rabbit hole of the Kennedy assassination. It was interesting of course, but what does it have to do with the Manson family? He didn't even fully explain what Bugliosi was so mad at him about. Most of the interviews he describes consisted of people refusing to tell him anything. I'm not sorry I read it, but he could have spent more time spelling out the concrete information that led somewhere and a lot less on the dead ends.
This review doesn't really belong here but I wanted you to be able to find it in response to your question. I absolutely could not put it down until I was done but it left me feeling strikingly unsatisfied.
Yeah, I thought #52 was William Cole, too.
A few more literal Manson family images:
Charlie and his grandson, Jason Freeman, by his wife from 1955, Rosalie
Charles Manson Jr., Jason's dad, who unfortunately killed himself
Michael Brunner, also Charlie's son -- didn't this guy produce any X-chromosome sperm at all?
Maybe he did:
Rebecca Evans, who says she is Charlie's daughter
Charlie and his carbon-copy son, Robert Matthews
Valentine Michael Manson
Finally, a photo of Kathleen Maddox, Charlie's mom:
Darwin Scott, in a photo taken a year before his brother Colonel Walker Henderson Scott -- Charlie's father -- died. Darwin himself was hideously murdered and pinned to the floor of his apartment with a butcher knife, at a time when Charlie and Sadie were thought to be in the area. The case has never been cleared.
Diane wrote: "Yeah, I thought #52 was William Cole, too."Hey, it may have been yet another alias. The only website I could find that produced that mugshot when you Google "William Cole" gave me a warning screen and told me not to go in owing to privacy issues. I chose not to let the Dark Web pour out of the library computer into my lap today...
This copy, and list, may be more helpful to you, Fish. I hope.
Fishface wrote: "Hey, it may have been yet another alias."Found this:
Bill Bass (Aliases: William VanSickle, Bill Vance, David Lee Hamic. Real name: William Rex Cole)
https://www.scribd.com/doc/117313529/...
Rex!? I've been thinking all day about a guy I grew up with named Rex.
I've never seen most of these before. Fascinating.
I made a point of looking for photos not usually seen. I want to thank the friend who sent me the baby picture of Polanski and asked if I could guess who it was.
The bearded man in the grubby sweatshirt at lower R is Juan Flynn, if I've been told correctly.
More Mansons. That's Steve Grogan almost all the way at the back, but who is the guy in the foreground? At first glance I thought it was Bruce Davis, but looking more carefully I'm not so sure.
News footage from the day the Tate murders were discovered and the investigation was just getting going:https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/co...
Some pretty ugly comments on that thread.
Very late to the party, but get a load of this oddly Dr. Seuss-like photo of two of the Manson girls enjoying their time in the slammer:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/co...
In case the Reddit photo vanishes I saved it to Pinterest too:
https://pin.it/1iRXrBf
Fishface wrote: "Very late to the party, but get a load of this oddly Dr. Seuss-like photo of two of the Manson girls enjoying their time in the slammer:https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/co......"
Striped footy pajamas. Who knew. Looks comfy.
K.A. wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Very late to the party, but get a load of this oddly Dr. Seuss-like photo of two of the Manson girls enjoying their time in the slammer:https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrime/co......"
But also very obvious if you try to escape at night.
Ruby Pearl, who ran Spahn Ranch with her boyfriend George Spahn:
George, taken in the days when the Mansons were still right in his business:
Just adding this photo of Harold True, the man who used to live next door to the LaBiancas, attracting Charlie to their home. He had connections to all manner of bad actors because Charlie had known him in prison. He also had some connections to the music industry that clearly did not work out for Charlie at all, with the results you all know. I thought of looking him up today for the first time because he had such vile effects on Dianne Lake, whose memoir I am reading at the moment.
Dianne Lake, whose life was an incredible series of hippie adventures long before she was handed over to the Manson Family. Her parents were loving but drug-addled and their attempts to find her after they lost track of her -- several times, in fact -- included leaving her photo with the Manson girls so they could keep an eye out for her. When she stumbled onto the Mansons herself they greeted her by name, lovingly, and for the first time ever she said she felt really noticed and wanted by someone.
I also learned a scrap of the story Paul Watkins left out of his book, My Life with Charles Manson. He said she was the first Manson Family member he met and he was very attracted to her. Dianne explains in her own memoir that Charlie had instructed her to open the door to him stark naked.
K.A. wrote: "'Very attracted to her', LOL."Well, I'm sure that was true LOLOLOLOL
Excellent book. I read both Helter Skelter and The Family many years ago but this one adds a good amount of new information.
Bill wrote: "Excellent book. I read both Helter Skelter and The Family many years ago but this one adds a good amount of new information."If you can find a copy, I highly recommend Paul Watkins's memoir, My Life with Charles Manson. It's my favorite after Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, even beyond the wonderful Sharon Tate and the Manson Murders.
Damn alot of these photos seem quite rare and a lot seem chilling especially that baby photo of Charles Manson.
Justin wrote: "Damn alot of these photos seem quite rare and a lot seem chilling especially that baby photo of Charles Manson."He's...strangely adorable.
Years ago, in the late 70s, a documentary came out and was shown in theaters. It featured Brenda, Paul Watkins and others. Ronnie Howard was interviewed, too. What I found interesting was that when she appeared on screen, many people in the movie audience hooted and cat called. They did not do it at any other point.
Claire wrote: "Years ago, in the late 70s, a documentary came out and was shown in theaters. It featured Brenda, Paul Watkins and others. Ronnie Howard was interviewed, too. What I found interesting was that when..."Interesting, and rather disheartening at the same time.
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Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders (other topics)My Life with Charles Manson (other topics)
Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders (other topics)
Sharon Tate and the Manson Murders (other topics)
My Life with Charles Manson (other topics)
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Doreen Gaul, who, along with James Sharp -- a man whose photo I have not been able to scare up -- was stabbed between 50 and 60 times, eyes cut; both of their right eyes were excised by parties unknown. Doreen at least was becoming disenchanted with Scientology at the time of her killing. Manson Family member Bruce Davis -- who had been kicked out of the Scientologists for drug use and who promptly climbed out of the frying pan and fell into the fire by joining up with Charlie -- was closely questioned by the police about these killings. He denied everything, but later went on to turn himself in for a different murder at Charlie's order.