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Throne of Glass Has Been Optioned as a TV Show!


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Theeshi | 42 comments Lydia wrote: "Yes! I loved what the biting scene represented. I mean yes it was hot but what I really loved was that she TRUSTED him to do that. It was her submitting to him in a way that only a Fae would, and t..." That scene made my toes curl. I would have LOVED for us to have gotten the POVs of other characters more as they observed Rowan and Aelin. Like at the dinner party or ANY scene with Rowan and Aelin really XD I resent some of the commentary on this thread though, I don't think Sarah deserves it. Or the Rowaelin ship- FYI, I volunteer controlling its cannons :D Rowan smelled of pine and snow, he's always smelled like home to her. And Celaena's beliefs about her love for Chaol are realistic. Sometimes people think someone is the One and there are times when they're wrong and times when they're right.


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Stephanie  (sinmotion) | 234 comments I don't know why for some Dorian and Aelin are a big no. Don't get that sort of thinking at all.

I suppose an argument could be made for any sort of relationship being the best for someone:

Opposites attract
Someone just like you "gets it", but perhaps being relatively the same person drives each of you mad. I've heard people say "we were too much alike."
It can be argued that Someone more dominant is best for someone more passive and vice versa.

Who knows what's actually "right", it's up to each couple to work that out for themselves. But I think the best relationships are perhaps those where the overarching/main principles and values are shared, while each having complementary differences among the two of you.

So yeah, I don't see how Dorian and Aelin are an impossibility for anyone, but that's just me. Personally, I've always felt he deserved better. He is the only one of the characters who has been consistently Un-assholish, non-judgemental and accepting from ToG.


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Lexie Oh couldn't agree more Stephanie.


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Theeshi | 42 comments I don't think Dorian is a no in terms of his compatibility with Aelin. It's just that they're the rulers of two kingdoms and they each have so many responsibilities that they can't compromise for one another. So the plot can't accept them as a couple without really altering the outcome of Eritrea. They'd have to combine Terrasen and Ardalan or something and those two countries don't particularly like each other.


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Risa (inkwellshadows) Yeah they both have to rule their kingdoms.

People are making arguments from that quote at the end of QoS about Dorian and Aelin being the beginning and the end meaning they are endgame or whatever.
I just think the beginning and the end thing means the beginning and the end of this new era. They're going to be the two rulers, the two to change everything.


I believe Sarah did say in an interview that Aelin chooses who she wants to be with in QoS?
So Rowan!!

And Cecilia - omg that's so awkward you got a chaol ring? I bet it's pretty though ?


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Stephanie  (sinmotion) | 234 comments And Kit Harrington swore he was don't bring Jon Snow (which I believe) but I don't think authors confirm major plot deets, deets that have been unreliable. She also confirmed Celaena/Aelin made her choice back when she was w/Chaol and she's obviously changed it, so...

I don't care one way or the other, really, but for me, anything is possible. And (view spoiler) so that argument isn't really a strong one for me. It's been done.


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Risa (inkwellshadows) Sarah said that her original story is WAY different though.


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Sandy (bookblubbs) | 116 comments Uhm stephanie, she said in Qos she would choose


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Leo (thecutestleo) I don't really think that Aelins love interest will change once again, really. As we all know, even Sarah J Maas writes slow-going romance. Aelin and Rowan has just begun a relationship, so I don't see how she and Rowan will break up and then Aelin will fall in love with Dorian. There aren't time enough, and we all know that Aelin is over Dorian. Not just because he is royal and she is, but also because they were not meant to be. Not in this story at least. Sarah says that she will she will always let Aelin tell her who she wanna be with, and she has seen Dorian as a friend for a very long time now.

It's just as you said in the Chaol/Dorian thread, the change would be too dramatic and weird. That's just how I see it but still, feel free to ship them! ^^


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Polly | 30 comments it's not about who Aelin wants to be with. it's about who sarah j maas wants to get wet over that sexy dream boat Rowan.


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Risa (inkwellshadows) How can you say something like that, do you have any respect?


message 1163: by Lydia (last edited Sep 16, 2015 01:32PM) (new)

Lydia (greciandaisy) | 174 comments Ew....There is no need to talk about an Author having vivid fantasies about their characters. She is allowed to like them, she made them up! And Rowan is awesome for many reasons, not just because he's attractive.


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Hailey | 115 comments M wrote: "How can you say something like that, do you have any respect?"

Right? I thought we were over this guys. Just because you want the romance to go a different way than it did, does not mean it is okay to be rude to the author and disrespect her.


░I░Y░A░N░A░-“ᴰᵒʷᶰ ᶤᶳ ᵘᵖ˒ ᵘᵖ ᶤᶳ ᵈᵒʷᶰˑ ᴳᵒᵒᵈ ᶤᶳ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ˒ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ ᶤᶳ ᴳᵒᵒᵈˑ ᵀʰᵉ ᵗᶤᵐᵉᶳ ᵃʳᵉ ᶜʰᵃᶰᵍᶤᶰᵍˑ ᵀʰᶤᶳ ᶤᶳ ʷʰᵃᵗ ᴼᶻ ʰᵃᶳ ᶜᵒᵐᵉ ᵗᵒˑ”⁻ᴰᵒʳᵒᵗʰʸ ᴹᵘᶳᵗ ᴰᶤᵉ (thechoseni) | 24 comments Polly wrote: "it's not about who Aelin wants to be with. it's about who sarah j maas wants to get wet over that sexy dream boat Rowan."


Yah, please do not disrespect Sarah J Maas are you forgetting that she wrote the book that we love. Like come on.


message 1166: by Taylor (last edited Sep 16, 2015 02:32PM) (new)

Taylor | 154 comments Ah, I lurve Rowan so much ! Guys can we just stray away from talking about Sarah j Maas fantasising about Rowan please ? She obviously likes the character, but that is totally understandable as she created them. An author is allowed to.


░I░Y░A░N░A░-“ᴰᵒʷᶰ ᶤᶳ ᵘᵖ˒ ᵘᵖ ᶤᶳ ᵈᵒʷᶰˑ ᴳᵒᵒᵈ ᶤᶳ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ˒ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ ᶤᶳ ᴳᵒᵒᵈˑ ᵀʰᵉ ᵗᶤᵐᵉᶳ ᵃʳᵉ ᶜʰᵃᶰᵍᶤᶰᵍˑ ᵀʰᶤᶳ ᶤᶳ ʷʰᵃᵗ ᴼᶻ ʰᵃᶳ ᶜᵒᵐᵉ ᵗᵒˑ”⁻ᴰᵒʳᵒᵗʰʸ ᴹᵘᶳᵗ ᴰᶤᵉ (thechoseni) | 24 comments Bookworm wrote: "Ah, I lurve Rowan so much ! Guys can we just stray away from talking about Sarah j Maas fantasising about Rowan please ? She obviously likes the character, but that is totally understandable as she..."



I Totally agree, like how can you not love him? ^-^


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Taylor | 154 comments Yes, and like Lydia said, not because he is good-looking (he is) but because he has amazing abilities and treats Aelin with respect.
<3 <3


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Risa (inkwellshadows) Bless all of you I thought no one would agree with me here.


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Taylor | 154 comments Chaol = Oh hell naw !!


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Stephanie  (sinmotion) | 234 comments M wrote: "Sarah said that her original story is WAY different though."

It is way different. But that's not my point. My point is that saying they can't be together bc they both are rulers of two different kingdoms is not a strong argument for why their relationship is an impossibility.


░I░Y░A░N░A░-“ᴰᵒʷᶰ ᶤᶳ ᵘᵖ˒ ᵘᵖ ᶤᶳ ᵈᵒʷᶰˑ ᴳᵒᵒᵈ ᶤᶳ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ˒ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ ᶤᶳ ᴳᵒᵒᵈˑ ᵀʰᵉ ᵗᶤᵐᵉᶳ ᵃʳᵉ ᶜʰᵃᶰᵍᶤᶰᵍˑ ᵀʰᶤᶳ ᶤᶳ ʷʰᵃᵗ ᴼᶻ ʰᵃᶳ ᶜᵒᵐᵉ ᵗᵒˑ”⁻ᴰᵒʳᵒᵗʰʸ ᴹᵘᶳᵗ ᴰᶤᵉ (thechoseni) | 24 comments Stephanie wrote: "M wrote: "Sarah said that her original story is WAY different though."

It is way different. But that's not my point. My point is that saying they can't be together bc they both are rulers of two d..."


I lie Dorian and Celaena together but, after the broke up, I couldn't see it anymore.


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Lexie I can. I think with SJM anything is possible. I know she said that Celaena had chosen by QoS but come on, it seemed that way in CoM with Chaol too, so I think it's definitely a possibility that it can change. We'll just have to see.


░I░Y░A░N░A░-“ᴰᵒʷᶰ ᶤᶳ ᵘᵖ˒ ᵘᵖ ᶤᶳ ᵈᵒʷᶰˑ ᴳᵒᵒᵈ ᶤᶳ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ˒ ᵂᶤᶜᵏᵉᵈ ᶤᶳ ᴳᵒᵒᵈˑ ᵀʰᵉ ᵗᶤᵐᵉᶳ ᵃʳᵉ ᶜʰᵃᶰᵍᶤᶰᵍˑ ᵀʰᶤᶳ ᶤᶳ ʷʰᵃᵗ ᴼᶻ ʰᵃᶳ ᶜᵒᵐᵉ ᵗᵒˑ”⁻ᴰᵒʳᵒᵗʰʸ ᴹᵘᶳᵗ ᴰᶤᵉ (thechoseni) | 24 comments Lexie wrote: "I can. I think with SJM anything is possible. I know she said that Celaena had chosen by QoS but come on, it seemed that way in CoM with Chaol too, so I think it's definitely a possibility that it ..."


I think it's possible. Don't get me wrong. It's just that I find that they're better off as friends now. I don't now. Maybe their power together would be more stronger if they where in love, who knows. It's just that I don't know if their relationship would be the same as at first if they got back together.


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Polly | 30 comments Bookworm wrote: "Yes, and like Lydia said, not because he is good-looking (he is) but because he has amazing abilities and treats Aelin with respect.
<3 <3"


Yawn...the only people who like Rowan are fan girls who swoon over any character who described as hot.

there really isn't much to Rowan. he's perfect, beautiful, flawless, amazing magical powers and fighting abilities.

he hasn't done anything particularly interesting either.

abused Aelin in hof and then at end decides to help her and qos all he does is growl and swoon over Aelin.

This will probably be my last message because you people are obviously crazy.


message 1178: by Stephanie (last edited Sep 16, 2015 03:46PM) (new)

Stephanie  (sinmotion) | 234 comments Where does she say that Aelin chooses in QoS? Someone source that bc I have not read that anywhere so, for me, until i read it myself, that is bs.

Source these arguments, please.


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Risa (inkwellshadows) Anyways back to talking about rowan and aelin bc that's the title of this thread

I have soo much evidence going for them being mates ommffgg.

And if they really are mates I'm going to cry with jOY


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Jess | 72 comments In HOF, Rowan couldn't do much since he was enslaved to Maeve, and everything he said or did would get back to her. At the end of HOF, when he was praying to Mala, it was the first time we kinda got to see his true character. Then, when he was freed, which wasn't till the end, he was himself.


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Danielle (dalandanielle) | 233 comments Stephanie wrote: "Where she say that Aelin chooses in QoS? Someone source that bc I have not read that anywhere so, IMO that bs.

Source these arguments, please."


I know she said that Aelin would probably made her choice in QoS. But that was like last year? I've read the interview. However, she also said in another one that whoever Aelin ended up with is still flexible. So I don't know what to believe anymore. Hahahaha

From her interview, (http://bookshub.wikia.com/wiki/User_b...
Q: Have you already decided who Celaena will end up with? Did it change while you were writing the books or have you always known who it would be?
A: I see this question all the time, so I just want to say once and for all: consider the Fictionpress draft another book entirely ... So, if you are curious about who Celaena ends up with, I would not consider the FP draft a resource.
...
Yes: I finally have an ending in mind — an ending that I love and have been working toward for the past few books, but how Celaena/Aelin gets there — and who she gets there with — have always been flexible.


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Stephanie  (sinmotion) | 234 comments Danielle wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "Where she say that Aelin chooses in QoS? Someone source that bc I have not read that anywhere so, IMO that bs.

Source these arguments, please."

I know she said that Aelin would..."


Hey Danielle,

This is the interview I read too, and ppl have been referencing bits and pieces of it, but like you said, she doesn't actually say she makes her choice in QoS.

And even how she gets to the end Sarah has in mind is still open to evolve one way or another in the form of how and the who.


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Hailey | 115 comments M wrote: "Anyways back to talking about rowan and aelin bc that's the title of this thread

I have soo much evidence going for them being mates ommffgg.

And if they really are mates I'm going to cry with jOY"


Ik! I think they are and I love them together so much! I love how we get to see Rowan open up more in QoS and I love how we get to see how he feels about her because he is really good at hiding his emotions so we didn't get to know them all in HoF


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Lexie Yes I totally agree!


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Jess S (mintchip) | 267 comments Theeshi wrote: "I don't think Dorian is a no in terms of his compatibility with Aelin. It's just that they're the rulers of two kingdoms and they each have so many responsibilities that they can't compromise for o..."

Perfectly said.


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Noris | 574 comments Agree. The thing is that is the first time we have read Rowan PoV and it's obvious that now, we really know his feelings. By the way, he and Aelin aren't the kind of people that walk through the world showing their love to everybody. They are more... Quite, they feel to much but they're used to hide it. Aelin loved Sam and she never told him aloud. Not with literal words. Rowan is thw same. He, right now loves Aelin (he said something like "to save the queen that held his heart in her scarred hands) or sth like that. If that's not love i don't know what the hell it is. Aelin loves him too and thé girl bites her tongue when she tries to explain what Rowan is for her.

Come one! Even Aedion realizes the feelings between the 2! Holly god! He ships them even more that all of us!


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Hailey | 115 comments Noris wrote: "Agree. The thing is that is the first time we have read Rowan PoV and it's obvious that now, we really know his feelings. By the way, he and Aelin aren't the kind of people that walk through the wo..."

Yes! I love how Aedion approves of their relationship! Not that Aelin would change it if he didn't, but it's just nice that they all get along for the most part


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Rachel | 5 comments Polly wrote: "Bookworm wrote: "Yes, and like Lydia said, not because he is good-looking (he is) but because he has amazing abilities and treats Aelin with respect.


Yawn...the only people who like Rowan are fan..."


You say that like it's a bad thing... If loving Rowan is wrong, I don't want to be right :)


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Morgan | 44 comments You know, I'll admit, when I first read TOG and COM, Chaol was bae. He was amazing, and I could even look over the fact that he disliked parts of her (difficult to do) but it happened. Then I read HOF. When it cut the storyline into two, and I could see how they reacted away from one another...I fell for Rowan. Hard. Yes, he was surly, he was difficult, he was complicated...but he understood Celaena, and really pushed her to use her full potential. He could understand what it was like to be called monster, he could understand what it was like to be an outcast, and he could understand what it was like to lose somebody that you had loved so completely, that life in itself became utterly useless, and not worth the pain.
Chaol can't. He still doesn't quite understand it. And although I believe that in QOS, he went through a major character development, I also believe that he understands that while he was the right man for Celaena...he is not the right man for Aelin. Only Rowan can fit that bill. I believe that they still care for one another's wellbeing, but I am very glad that they are no longer in love with one another.
Rowan and Aelin is the pair that I will ship until my dying day. I believe that the relationship that they have, founded on honesty and love will go very far. I believe that they are meant to be, and I am so excited to see where the next two books will take their relationship!
Rowan + Aelin for the win!!


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Lexie Nicely said Morgan.


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Theeshi | 42 comments Lol Jess, I was trying not to hurt the Celorian ship too much, I do love Dorian. Yes! I agree Morgan. That desperation you can sense when Aelin is trying to protect Rowan, I just don't have the words to form into a coherent sentence. The way she repeated his name over and over after she saved Manon, how she felt so afraid of Arobynn being near him (or Aedion but no one here doubts she loves him), the way she always reaches out for him in her sleep.. I really just don't see how you could love anyone more than Aelin loves Rowan


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Taylor | 154 comments theeshi, I agree completely. Numerous times throughout the book it felt as if Rowan was the only one in her life she adored him so much and him with her .


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Taylor | 154 comments Ok, so there has been a couple of rumours among the internet that Throne of Glass would be optioned as a TV show. After doing some "investigating" I found out that it's true !!!!!
But where there is good news, there's always bad.
On one of the websites I was on, there was a "Dream Casting". I'm gonna go straight ahead and tell you what they imagined the characters to look like:

Celaena Sardothien: Cara Delivinge, the girl who played Margo in "Paper Towns".

Dorian DeHavilliard AKA my imaginative fictional boyfriend: Logan Lerman. Ew. No thank you. This guy played Percy in "Percy Jackson and The Lightning Thief". Dorian is described to have eyes as blue as sapphires. Logan Lerman has dull blue eyes ( I still love ya Logan).
Chaol Westfall: Kaltan Haynes. Kaltan played in "Teen Wolf". No. Just no.

Nehemia Ytger: Kat Graham. Kat played Bonnie in "The Vampire Diaries". I don't think she would make a good Nehemia.

See, this is the problem. Even looking up Dream Casting can ruin your outlook on the characters. And I know, I know, "Dream Casting" is only what some people imagine the characters to look like. But Logan as Dorian? Nooooo thank youuuu .


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Morgan | 44 comments Theeshi wrote: "Lol Jess, I was trying not to hurt the Celorian ship too much, I do love Dorian. Yes! I agree Morgan. That desperation you can sense when Aelin is trying to protect Rowan, I just don't have the wor..."

Right?! Their love is beautiful :)


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Morgan | 44 comments Theeshi wrote: "Lol Jess, I was trying not to hurt the Celorian ship too much, I do love Dorian. Yes! I agree Morgan. That desperation you can sense when Aelin is trying to protect Rowan, I just don't have the wor..."

Right?! Their love is beautiful :)


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Hailey | 115 comments Theeshi wrote: "Lol Jess, I was trying not to hurt the Celorian ship too much, I do love Dorian. Yes! I agree Morgan. That desperation you can sense when Aelin is trying to protect Rowan, I just don't have the wor..."

I know right? I don't understand how anyone can NOT like Rowan. Their relationship was built on friendship, honesty, and understanding. They don't judge each other and Rowan is the only one Aelin really feels understands everything she has been through. They can tell each other anything and everything and they would both willingly sacrifice themselves for each other without a second thought. If that is not like one of the most beautiful things ever I don't know what is!


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Lexie @Bookworm, I so agree. Let's hope that SJM gets to have a say in who plays her characters.


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Noris | 574 comments I know. When Rowan waa about to die in the end of the book, Aedion clearly said that he heard Rowan said Aelin's name in the end! So sweet! I love them. And I so fascinated that the history between this guys was not insta-love. They were step by step, little by little and OMG! Is amazing, is good that some people could fall in love instantly, but I've always thought that the love that walks quietly through the end is even stronger.


message 1199: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 44 comments I completely agree with what you said Noris. Personally I really love reading the books that don't have the paired couple like each other right off the bat. It makes it more real to me. Trust and love take time, and it is definitely stronger.


message 1200: by Theeshi (last edited Sep 17, 2015 05:30PM) (new)

Theeshi | 42 comments Hailey, Morgan, Bookworm, Noris- HAHA I love you guys, it's amazing to find people who love their pairing or their individual characters like I do!

Wahhh, I can't imagine Cara as Aelin, especially when Aelin transforms into a perfect lady to get her way for something. I also don't agree with the idea of letting Sarah take too much control. Many book-to-movie interpretations have failed because they couldn't transform the story properly. Stephenie Meyer's actors were very close to the books but they didn't have the acting skill to make it work. TVD's casting didn't really reflect the book characters well but, damn, Ian Somerhalder is just *sigh*.

I just hope the directors and the writers have the correct idea of what the characters should be like and make the script flow naturally like the book does.


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