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message 1: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments Tien and I are going to buddy read The Three-Body Problem as one of the books that fit our August PAS monthly (Asia).

The Three-Body Problem is the first chance for English-speaking readers to experience this multiple award winning phenomenon from China's most beloved science fiction author, Liu Cixin.

"Fans of hard SF will revel in this intricate and imaginative novel by one of China’s most celebrated genre writers. In 1967, physics professor Ye Zhetai is killed after he refuses to denounce the theory of relativity. His daughter, Ye Wenjie, witnesses his gruesome death.

"Shortly after, she’s falsely charged with sedition for promoting the works of environmentalist Rachel Carson, and told she can avoid punishment by working at a defense research facility involved with the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. More than 40 years later, Ye’s work becomes linked to a string of physicist suicides and a complex role-playing game involving the classic physics problem of the title.


message 2: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
It looks like it could be a pretty fast read; my edition only has 400+ pages with average sized prints.

Let me know what your thoughts are on how we're going to do this; ie:
1. starting Fri, 2nd Aug?
2. end date? are we looking at days or weeks?
3. schedule or no schedule?*

*we usually have targeted number of chapters/pages per week but I can see myself being carried away by this book lol

My edition has 35 chapters... 7 chapters a day (first day will be longest with just over 100 pages but after that gets shorter & shorter: 60-80 pages) will mean we finish in 5 days
Or we could do 5 chapters a day and finish in 7 days (range: 40-70 pages a day) ;)


message 3: by Bea (new)

Bea | 5296 comments Mod
This book is available to me, so I put it on hold. I will get it later today, so I want to join in.


message 4: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments starting Friday - i probably won't start until the evening...

i'm thinking potentially days, but part of it will depend on how this read-a-thon goes - if it turns out to be a fast read, i could get it done in the 24 hours.

i think we can set some discussion points up for chat - but then ppl can read at their own pace


message 5: by Tien (last edited Aug 01, 2019 04:49PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
Well, it's Friday morning now for me and I didn't bring my book today... I've 2 books I'm in the middle of & keen to finish then I'll dive in - probably tomorrow night if I can.

Reading at own pace sounds good :)

Just remember your spoiler html, everyone, when you're posting spoiler-ish comments ;)


message 6: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments Yes ma’am ;)


message 7: by Tien (last edited Aug 01, 2019 05:08PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
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message 8: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
Have you started, Dee?


message 9: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments No - hopefully in next hour! My plan to read through the night got upended by a horribly long work week (50+ hrs)


message 10: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
Even if we don't have guidelines for when we read things, I find it helpful to have guidelines for when to talk about things -- that way, we don't have too worry quite as much about spoilers.

I realize the ebook pages won't be the same as the paper copy. But I assume the 3 sections are roughly the same.

part 1 pp 7-41
part II pp 41-194
part III pp 195-310

I'll plan to read part 1 today/tonight (It's Sat AM in the US now.)
Part II will probably take me several days
Part III maybe two days?

I know both Tien and Dee read a lot faster than I do. And Bea will, too, once she gets the book.

So how about if we say:
by Monday (8/5), we can all talk about Part 1 without spoilers.
For Part II, Fri (8/9), and Part III the following Monday (8/12)?

By all means, make changes if you want. And if someone wants to break the parts down to chapters, that's fine with me, too.


message 11: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments Sounds good to me


message 12: by Bea (new)

Bea | 5296 comments Mod
I will pick my book up today.


message 13: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments How are ppl doing? Ready to take about part 1?


message 14: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
I meant to start reading over the weekend but it's not easy to find time to read on weekends for me lol

I had a long weekend so I've only gone into work today (Tues) & finally read the book this morning on the train. I did manage all of Part I which is only about 40+ pages. Can't say whether I'd like the book or not but I like the intro to this character (Yen Wenjie) even if I'm not sure whether she's still going to be in the rest of the book seeing that this is set 40+ years earlier. And I like how Part I ends: the mystery & I really want to get to that... hopefully in Part II?

No one's said anything over the weekend which could be either you haven't started reading (like me) or you've finished (Dee?!)


message 15: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments I’m about half way through - i’m Hooked - it’s kind of weird in places but I just keep turning pages lol


message 16: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "I’m about half way through - i’m Hooked - it’s kind of weird in places but I just keep turning pages lol"

I expected weird! The title kinda says to me, 'weird' but good to hear that it's a page-turner!

Wonder if I could be antisocial at lunch today so I can read... lol


message 17: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments What is this loonch? Most days I eat at my desk or in mtgs :(


message 18: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "What is this loonch? Most days I eat at my desk or in mtgs :("

awww... I'm having a quiet week... most of my things aren't due til end of month so I'll get busy probably from next week onwards :)

actually, i'm going to walk to the bookshop in search of Proust. Going to read along vol 1 with a couple of friends and if we like it then maybe the rest of the series. I'm a little bit daunted at this thought lol


message 19: by Bea (last edited Aug 06, 2019 02:10AM) (new)

Bea | 5296 comments Mod
Well, I went to a Leather conference this weekend. I fully planned to get the 40 pages read for discussion on Sunday, but it just didn't happen. I came home to a possible reservation and so had to work to get the house ready, and then the yard was knee-high (not really) and needed raking and mowing. So my reading got pushed aside.

My 4 other library books which are due on the 10th are short and expectedly easy reads - Solnit, Bradley, Rhys, and Spark.

Definitely will get to it today. I am glad to hear that it is a page turner also. Looking forward to getting started.


message 20: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
I finished Part I, which had more of the feel of a prequel to me. I've started on Part II, but now I realize that my divisions based on what I looked at in the ebook probably don't make a lot of sense. If anyone feels like making discussion break-downs by chapters, that would probably make more sense.

I'm liking Part II so far (3 chapters), but it hasn't grabbed me as a page-turner yet.


message 21: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
The division is fine, Susan. My books also have 3 parts though you probably didn't know how short Part I was? It's all good. I'm happy with how it's divided & will probably get up to the end of Part II tomorrow. I'm almost midway of Part II and it's getting weird...

I'm not well-versed with science terms / concepts so I struggle with that and I mostly skim through those when I read scifi 😅 so it's not particularly a page-turner for me in that regards but it seems to go pretty quickly...


message 22: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments It’s definately a hard on the science sci-fi - I understand premises but have found myself googling


message 23: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "It’s definately a hard on the science sci-fi - I understand premises but have found myself googling"

oooh, noooo... it'll probably confuse me more! lol


message 24: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments don't say that...


message 25: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments i'm almost to the end of part 2 -

i thought this was interesting - the wiki for three-body problem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-b...


message 26: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "i'm almost to the end of part 2 -

i thought this was interesting - the wiki for three-body problem

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-b..."


Is it safe to read that if I haven't finished Part II yet?


message 27: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments yes - it just talks about what the three-body problem is and as you read, you may understand more about why its important...

i'll admit i'm dorking out - and will probably read ther est of the trilogy


message 28: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "I'll admit i'm dorking out - and will probably read the rest of the trilogy."

My brother, who reads science fiction almost exclusively, said the entire trilogy was excellent.


message 29: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
Oooh, thanks for that, Dee... I didn't realise it's actually a thing (three-body problem) - had no clue what that title meant lol

This does help along with with all the weirdness, I guess... 🤔


message 30: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments here's the wiki about the China Cultural Revolution which is the background:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultura...


message 31: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments i finished up part II last night - i'm enjoying it (actually stopped by the library last night to get books 2 and 3 in the series)...


message 32: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
I didn't read any yesterday but I should finish part II on the commute home later.

I've already got books 2 & 3 from the library before I got book 1... for some reason, they were readily available whilst multiple copies for book 1 are ALL out with numerous reserves!


message 33: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
What I am wondering about is the Chinese science history... from notes at the bottom of some pages, author seems to draw quite a bit from real historical and/or personages.


message 34: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments The cultural revolution was real - the author was a child during it so probably significant influence


message 35: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
Tien wrote: "What I am wondering about is the Chinese science history... from notes at the bottom of some pages, author seems to draw quite a bit from real historical and/or personages."

The mathematical history (non-Chinese) that I know appears to be represented accurately. So I presume the other is, too, and we in the West just don't know about it.

I'm not quite finished with Part II, but will finish it this afternoon. I was really caught off-guard by the humor in some of the game chapters. And I'm looking forward to being able to discuss some of the characters.

Not sure I'm enough of a fan yet to go on to the 2nd and 3rd books right away, but I probably will at some point.


message 36: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments i've discovered (and i have a BA in history) - that asian history is rarely taught in colleges unless you are enrolled in a specific focus area and more likely blended with like an asian studies degree


message 37: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
I’ve finished Part 2. Ok with me to discuss it with spoilers. Am I the last one?


message 38: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments good by me - i'm not sure where Tien is


message 39: by Bea (new)

Bea | 5296 comments Mod
Go ahead, Susan. I have dropped out. Too much going on in my life right now. (I do still have the book and will read it, just not on this schedule.)


message 40: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
yep, I've finished Part II yesterday. I just haven't had time to sit & log on to GR til now. And even now, I'm supposed to be doing something else so, start discussion & I'll join in with my comments tomorrow :)


message 41: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
I rather enjoyed this part early on, but became disillusioned as it went on.

For one thing, I didn't like the long expositions of the science underlying everything. When it comes out during dialogue among characters, I'm ok. But I don't enjoy pages of lecture.

On the other hand, the level of humor, especially during the game episodes, surprised me. I loved the idea of the duel over who supposedly discovered/invented calculus. And the 3-million-person "computer": obviously, it wouldn't really work that way, but I thought the description of it was hilarious.

I was disappointed that the promise of the first section, to explore the limits of science, seems to have been forgotten in the second section as we gradually learn about Trisolaris.

And I'm still very confused about where the plot is going, and what the point of it all is. Early on, I thought Wang and Ye were interesting. But by now, I'm a bit tired of them. Wang in particular seems to be there just to facilitate having the story play out for us.

I'll be really interested to hear what all of you think about it, especially Dee, since you've said you're enjoying it.


message 42: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments I think the explanations of science are just very common in science fiction books because there is a base need to understand in order to understand parts of the story (the Martian was very similar but they blended his science descriptions into the different experiments that he did)

I can’t fully give my thoughts on Wang because i’ve Moved onto part iii already


message 43: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments I think there will be a merging of the limits of science and trisolaris either in part iii or the next books (the description on the backcover of Book two Talks of it)


message 44: by Susan (last edited Aug 10, 2019 01:51PM) (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "I think the explanations of science are just very common in science fiction books because there is a base need to understand in order to understand parts of the story."

True. But I read a lot of science fiction. Not all quite as "hard" as this one, but I don't stick to only "soft" stuff, either. And I can't remember when I've ever been quite as bored by the scientific explanations.


message 45: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "I think there will be a merging of the limits of science and trisolaris either in part iii or the next books (the description on the backcover of Book two Talks of it)"

That makes sense.


message 46: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments I wonder if that is because of the translation?


message 47: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3753 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "I wonder if that is because of the translation?"

You're right. Could be.


message 48: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments Or maybe his. Writing style just isn’t for you


message 49: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 2695 comments I finished today - so let me know when you guys are ready to talk part iii


message 50: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 9032 comments Mod
Dee wrote: "I finished today - so let me know when you guys are ready to talk part iii"

oops... no reading done over the weekend, soz... I had my irl bookclub over on Sat so that's whole day gone! I read a bit of Part III this morning. I hope to finish either tonight or tomorrow morning.


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