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message 51: by Phillip (last edited Sep 02, 2009 03:15PM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments hey steve-o,
do you live in chelsea?

i have good friends that live there and they would take their toddler to this little park and would often see uma and ethan hawke with their youngster...that was like ten years ago, when uma amd ethan were still together (WHAT was he thinking walking out on HER?)

no need to be jealous, sam-i-am, come on out to the bay area and we can have lunch at moma and stroll the museum. there's a good avedon exhibit up right now...


message 52: by Jim (new)

Jim (jim_) Philip, Thanks for the share. Very jealous. ;)


message 53: by St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures (last edited Sep 06, 2009 03:34PM) (new)

St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures ||| ♥ Zin Uru ♥ |||| | 482 comments Phillip what an impressive story, thanks for sharing. I feel even though Uma's not a classic beauty, somehow her face and appearance work magic for her, I have enjoyed most of her movies especially Gattaca, and also the other one with Meryl Streep where she falls for a younger man. I think she also did poison ivy's character, and that movie with real loud guy jokes (My Super Ex-girlfriend)...which is beyond me. Kill Bill is by far her best yet.

Yeah, the movie styles are similar, later I checked on IMDB and found out about Robert Rodriguez. He has done something equally exciting with Spy Kids, so different from the violent landscape of Once Upon a Time in Mexico

Persepolis sounds strangely familiar, it's all so complicated here where I am now. A walk in the Park sounds like the ultimate in emancipation, belive me,...if you can't tell I'm slightly envious you get to enjoy the museum. Reminds me of.....never mind. Speaking of art, since it is so closely connected to Cinema, Australia is doing a lot of new concepts I hear.



message 54: by Sam (new)

Sam | 548 comments we are? ... i mean - yes we are! ... kiddin' ...

i'm sure someone here somewhere is Nausheen - was there a particular one you heard about?


St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures ||| ♥ Zin Uru ♥ |||| | 482 comments Sam yes it's all on tv, I sort of am like Shia Lebouf in Disturbia, perennial house arrest except for work and food...so there I was watching this show on ABC and they have this huge (like monoliths)art stuff going on and some aboriginal inspired and some Asian (read Japanese) Pollock style art ..and all kinds of educational news on the early settlers, wow some women!!


Reads with Scotch  | 80 comments *********Spoiler********

Overall this movie did not disappoint. It was a typical Quentin Tarantino movie with lots of snappy dialog and abstract conversations used to move the plot forward using atypical plot methods.

The movie was not without flaws however; the 'jew hunter' character was pretty solid until the last 5 minutes when he did something that went against his character completely and with no explanation.

The wife thinks I am reading to much into this character flaw but...: Quentin Tarantino spent a lot of time in the movie demonstrating the Nazi's commitment to their cause. So we must have missed a little 'tell' that explains why one would turn without warning.

I am leaning toward a moment when Col. Hans Landa aka "The Jew Hunter" gets a little twisted when Lt. Apache and his "little Jew" companion call Hans the Jew Hunter. Several times throughout the feature Hans says he is a great investigator. He is a man that is proud of abilities as a detective; the fact that he is hunting jews for the Nazi's is a minor detail that is hardly worth mentioning. What is worth mentioning (to Hans) is his amazing talents as a detective. So my conclusion is he was tired of eveyone focusing on him finding jews and not on his unmatched abilities as a detective.

But all this is pointless because there is no build up of this point in the movie. It appears he just instantaneously decides to defect.

All that aside it was a great movie but I still can't give it 4 stars. As good as the movie was there was something missing. I can't put my finger on it yet, maybe after I see it again but for now it is 3 1/2.



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Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments I'm going to see it on Monday - the Polish premiere is on Friday.


message 58: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments good luck


message 59: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments Thanks. Monday is my cinema day, cause in one of the cinemas in Cracow the tickets are few PLN cheaper than usually.


message 61: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments In Poland - such a country between Germany and Russia. And no, we don't have white bears walking on the streets.


St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures ||| ♥ Zin Uru ♥ |||| | 482 comments Then who do you have walking the streets in the country between Germany and Russia?? <:D>>

I'm sorry I realised you said earlier "Polish premiere"...duh? silly me!


message 63: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments Nausheen wrote: "Then who do you have walking the streets in the country between Germany and Russia??"

Definately not polar bears as some even very intelligent people think. Generally we have people walking on the streets and some animals of course like dogs.


message 64: by Ceci (new)

Ceci (cecialbiceleste) | 529 comments I'm really looking forward to seeing the Basterds, at last! Been ill lately, and then working long days, but next week, I hope! Then I'll be back with a review.


message 65: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments Can't wait for Monday evening with Basterds.


message 66: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments i hope you like it more than i did.


message 67: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments I go just to have fun. Nothing more I expected from this movie.


message 69: by Leslie (new)

Leslie (lesliehealey) SPOILER ALERT(KIND OF) I always go to see Tarantino films, if for no other reason than he has a discernible point of view, albeit childish. And they are fun to watch: they're bright and sharp and campy. But the second that roiling cloud of vengeance started to cackle in the movie theatre, my stomach turned. Vengeance? That's it? That's what he came up with?After 60 years, that's all he can think of? Take a lesson from the Jews--they have spent the time making sure it won't happen again, not killing every German on earth. They're better than that. Jeez, she's no better than the Nazis, except where she fooled them........shame on you QT


message 70: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments Nausheen, of course I'll write my review of it.


message 71: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments leslie,
couldn't agree more. i'm just going to pretend this movie doesn't exist.


message 72: by Anna (last edited Sep 15, 2009 11:00AM) (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments I would give this movie 3 stars out of 5. Some moments were good, but there were many too long moments. But I loved Til Schweiger as Hugo Stiglitz.


St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures ||| ♥ Zin Uru ♥ |||| | 482 comments Really I feel all those Nazi generals were just so common crooks, hoarding and looting. Why did they even need such a long-winded racial supremacy as a reason for a very private war? Maybe Quentin Tarantino should remake Alistair MacLean's River of Death, now that would be hilarious!! It has everything he likes, revenge, mind-numbing deaths, hidden identities and even a very pretty (apparently) Israeli Agent.


message 74: by Ceci (new)

Ceci (cecialbiceleste) | 529 comments Finally going to see the movie on Saturday. :)


message 75: by Ceci (new)

Ceci (cecialbiceleste) | 529 comments Well... let me just pause first to say, wow.

Finally saw Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds tonight and it just blew me away. Wonderful cinematography, and an immensely satisfying film. LOVED it! Amazing acting all around, but Eli Roth as the Bear Jew Donny Donowitz and Michael Fassbender as Lt Archie Hicox, not to mention the female leads Diane Kruger (Bridget von Hammersmark) and Mélanie Laurent (Shoshanna Dreyfus) are exceptionally brilliant. As for Christoph Waltz as Nazi Col. Hans Landa -- he is incredible. If Lanz doesn't win a Oscar, the Academy won't ever have been more unfair... That man can express more with his eyes than most actors can with a ten minute soliloquy.

Anyhow, dark but perfect humor, intellect, brutal but necessary action and gorgeous cinematography. An homage to cinema's greats and history, and the best movie I've seen this year.



message 76: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments Diane Kruger was best female in this movie. For Christopath Waltz was second best to Til Schweiger, but just a little .


message 77: by Ceci (new)

Ceci (cecialbiceleste) | 529 comments Diane Kruger looked just perfect for the part, as did the rest of the cast, btw. Tarantino's got a wonderful eye for detail and for cinema esthetics. The era was created faultlessly. Such cinematic perfection is rarely seen on screen... the colors and the clothing just right.


message 78: by St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures (last edited Oct 04, 2009 03:37PM) (new)

St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures ||| ♥ Zin Uru ♥ |||| | 482 comments I watched "Thunder Bolt: Death proof" the other night, I didn't get to finish the movie cos I got bored and vague when..ummm spoiler ahead...the second set of four girs arrived. I think I partially understand the concept of the movie. Tarantino was able to project a dissipated feel which goes with the plot. The first set was well cast (maybe except for the lap dance, I'm not sure why she does that to Kurt Russel's character). So that's a regular American diner, or maybe a deadbeat cousin of the real diner, hmmm...(some background on this statement: I have only been to a real new shiny one where the juke box didn't even play, kinda like a movie set)

Zoe Bell was good, it was hard to follow her accent in the beginning then it turns out she's Kiwi so I could go with it later. And....I liked the first Afrimerican girl quoting Robert Frost, she was pretty.

The movie was surprising in its lack of signature violence. Hope to read more on it here maybe....


message 79: by Cathy (new)

Cathy | 57 comments QT's movies are cartoons to me and I enjoy them for that reason; great visuals, simple good vs. bad themes, no character development, stunted dialog. Even the violence is cartoon violence (even the scalping looked pretty hokey). I enjoy them for what they are: comic books in movie form.


St[♥]r Pr!nc:$$ N[♥]wsheen pictures, pictures, pictures ||| ♥ Zin Uru ♥ |||| | 482 comments That's nicely put I feel.

Death Proof seriously lacked visuals, he could have used better sets maybe


message 81: by Tom (new)

Tom | 5615 comments bump


message 82: by Elaine (new)

Elaine (httpgoodreadscomelaine_chaika) | 241 comments Phillip wrote: "Inglorious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
Only a hint of SPOILERS….

I had to wait a day before writing this – I was so deeply annoyed by this movie that I needed a day to cool out and form som..."

Re: You don't want to be part of a society that... The Roman gladiator contests and viewing of wild animals devouring humans were better? Bullfights in Mexico and Spain arent' too gory for you (never mind the cruelty to the innocent bull). Public hangings, burning people at the stake, public beheadings... what society are you going to be a part of. At least in the movies, loathesome as so many are, we know the violence is all F/X. ( and I agree with you about Tarantino, Hollywood, and violence.)




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Elaine (httpgoodreadscomelaine_chaika) | 241 comments Bill wrote: "While I also did not care for the ending, I think (beware the intentionalist fallacy here) Tarantino is playing with our own expectations of WWII war movie ethics and honor. In all the WWII movies..."

Several returning soldiers told me at the end of WWII when I was 10 that wherever the American army marched in, people came running out to greet them. The newsreels showed that as well. Even a German friend of mine, who was 5 when the war ended, told me he was impressed by how nice the American soldiers were. The Germans were starving at the end (people forget the damage the Allies wreaked on Germany -- it was actually worse than the atomic bomb) and the American soldiers often shared their rations. A priest friend of mine -- and another man who had liberated some camps told me that American soldiers got vicious withe the German soldiers only after seeing the horrors of the camps. I do think people were nicer then. Ordinary people from working class families like mine had standards of decency and scalping the enemy wasn't the sort of thing we did. (American movies reflect a real change in Americans who have become a bunch of people who think they're entitled to all they can grab no matter who else suffers -- and that goes for our government, so far as I can see)


message 84: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments Elaine wrote: "Phillip wrote: "Inglorious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino, 2009)
Only a hint of SPOILERS….

I had to wait a day before writing this – I was so deeply annoyed by this movie that I needed a day to co..."


no, i don't want to be a part of a society that celebrates and glorifies endless bloodshed. but i am part of that society, like it or not.


message 85: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments fair enough rob...but as i've said before, i think tarantino creates a kind of double standard. he wants to celebrate the grindhouse stuff that has inspired him (of which i am a fan!), but he also wants us to take him as a serious filmmaker. you can't have both. i go into his movies knowing what to expect, and i have become increasingly disappointed as time marches on.


message 86: by Tom (new)

Tom | 5615 comments If Tarantino's films really are just meaningless trivia that isn't meant to be taken seriously, then why should I waste my time with them? Life's too short to waste on crap when the good stuff is so readily available.

Not that I'm going to bother any more, that is.


message 87: by Mawgojzeta (new)

Mawgojzeta Elaine wrote: "Several returning soldiers told me at the end of WWII when I was 10 that wherever the American army marched in, people came running out to greet them. The newsreels showed that as well. Even a German friend of mine, who was 5 when the war ended, told me he was impressed by how nice the American soldiers were. The Germans were starving at the end..."

Thank you for sharing that information. I remember watching a documentary regarding the camps (quite a long time ago; not sure of the name)and it included some of the interviews of American soldiers asking about their reactions to the death camps. They honestly could never have imagined before hand what were going to find. That level of brutality just was beyond the realm of thinking for these men. Now, 10 year old kids would be less shocked ... which is disturbing.


message 88: by Steven (new)

Steven Yeah, and considering how America now treats its "detainees," we see how far we've fallen since then.


message 89: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments Steve-O wrote: "Yeah, and considering how America now treats its "detainees," we see how far we've fallen since then."

Many people from outside USA consider USA as country of wealthiness, but I know many that were disappointed with what they saw, when they went to USA.

Some scenes were too long and sometimes there were holes as someone forgot about stitches between the scenes.


message 90: by Steven (new)

Steven Anna, yeah, I heard an Aussie guy describe the U.S. as "the most advanced third-world country in the world." ha ha.

I was referring specifically, though, to Guantanamo Bay, American torture policies under Bush (that are now being swept under the rug by Obama et al), and of course Abu Ghraib.

Anyway, I think IG is a few good scenes that add up to a mediocre film. I also think that Brad Pitt is utterly unwatchable in it; I wanted to ffwd through every single one of his scenes. The dude just cannot do ham or comedy.


message 91: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments Steve-O wrote: "Anna, yeah, I heard an Aussie guy describe the U.S. as "the most advanced third-world country in the world..."


i don't see anything particularly advanced about our country.


message 92: by Anna (new)

Anna (lilfox) | 465 comments Phillip wrote: "Steve-O wrote: "Anna, yeah, I heard an Aussie guy describe the U.S. as "the most advanced third-world country in the world..."

i don't see anything particularly advanced about our country."


Yeah and I see white bears on the streets of Cracow every single day.


message 93: by Phillip (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments let's face it - the shelf life on civilization has just about expired.


message 94: by Phillip (last edited Mar 06, 2010 09:58PM) (new)

Phillip | 10980 comments we've had this conversation before. i'm not saying tarantino isn't a good film maker because he isn't "serious", like kurosawa, or any of those other film makers you mentioned. i think a film like oldboy is a much better film in terms of the construction of its narrative and how it balances its themes, the consistency to character development - all the things that make a good film enjoyable and successful artistically. i think quentin created some really well made films early in his career, but when i consider the movies he's made lately, i can't help but think he needs to rethink his game.

in addition, you know that i love films that are not "well made". john waters early films are not "well made", but i love them because they represent a way of thinking (or a world view, however you want to say it) that i can relate to and celebrate. that's where tarantino and i part ways - he doesn't create things that represent a world that i want to celebrate.


message 95: by Mawgojzeta (new)

Mawgojzeta Rob wrote: "...I thought Pitt was actually funny in this film. I laughed at his role in Burn After Reading as well. I've been surprised at how funny he can be...."

I did, too. When he was trying to speak Italian I about peed my pants laughing. He was such a ridiculous character. It was great.

And, also loved him in "Burn After Reading".

Normally, not a fan of Mr. Pitt.


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