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Cosmic Arcata | 207 comments Mod
I want to re-read The Catcher, this time not trying to prove that the Catcher was written about WW2. I want to read Thr Catcher and discuss every place that references something to do with WW2 or something in the book. This is a book discussion for people wjho have already read the book. Probably read the book multiple times with new eyes.

Looking for references to
Puns
Idoms
Other places in the book
Historical facts
Movies
Books

Another words this is our opportunity to let Salinger teach us. We don't have to settle with a feeble education we can get one from a master who went to the ivy league Valley Forge Academy.

Remember too that Salinger was versed in classical literature. That he probably read and studied in both latin and Greek.

In Greek each word means one thing, just like in law. That's why we have The Blacks Law Dictionary so we can all speak and understand what is being said in court. At least lawyers can.

So feel free to discuss the first page of the red paper back edition of The Catcher.


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Cosmic Arcata | 207 comments Mod
FIRST SENTENCE:

If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, an what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but I don't feel like going into it, if you want to know the truth.


"If you really want to hear about it" is echoed again in "if you want to know the truth." I believe Salinger wants to tell the truth about WW2 but he has a hard time getting anyone to listen to the truth. We all have a version of something that we "believe" and very often we "need" that story.

Where was Holden born?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden
"Holden, formerly known as General Motors-Holden"
"In 1908 it moved into the automotive field, becoming a subsidiary of the United States-based General Motors (GM) in 1931, when the company was renamed General Motors-Holden's Ltd. "

Note the dates! Both when GM became a subsidiary and when it became owner. MANY years before the start of WW1 and again WW2. It takes time to tool up a ammunition factory to make things for the war.

The Great Depression led to a substantial downturn in production by Holden, from 34,000 units annually in 1930 to just 1,651 units one year later.[12] In 1931 General Motors purchased Holden Motor Body Builders and merged it with General Motors (Australia) Pty Ltd to form General Motors-Holden's Ltd (GM-H)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-2...


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Cosmic Arcata | 207 comments Mod
Cosmic wrote: " FIRST SENTENCE:

.and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me..."


How did GM get started?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gener...

It was originally founded by William C. Durant on September 16, 1908 as a holding company.

What Is a Holding Company?

A holding company is a parent corporation, limited liability company, or limited partnership that owns enough voting stock in another company, that it can control that company's policies and oversee its management decisions.


Although a holding company owns the assets of other companies, it merely maintains oversight capacities and therefore does not actively participate in running a business's day-to-day operations.

Holding Company

Understanding Holding Companies
A holding company exists for the sole purpose of controlling other companies, whether they be other corporations, limited partnerships or limited liability companies. note they made the company lose money and bought it cheap in 1931).Holding companies may also own property, such as real estate, patents, trademarks, stocks, and other assets.

Businesses that are 100% owned by a holding company are referred to as "wholly owned subsidiaries." Although a holding company can hire and fire managers of companies it owns, those managers are ultimately responsible for their own operations. It is thus crucial for owners to keep a sharp eye on its businesses to make sure they are running optimally.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willi...
Does not mention anything about Australia or the Holden company even though the bought it in 1931.

It was originally founded by William C. Durant on September 16, 1908 as a holding company. The company is the largest American automobile manufacturer, and one of the world's largest.[7]

Perhaps because:
"In Australia, GM has been represented by the Holden brand since 1948."

Hmmm. They didn't make Holden cars till five years after the war. It takes time to retool a factory....for war...and back to a car plant. Good reason to over produce before the war. Then have a depression so that under that veil of lack of supply and demand you can build a ammunition plant. Then while the men are at war there is magically work in a ammunition plant already tooled to build war machines.

Always wondered about that.


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