The Bachelor Team Challenge Round 2 - Q&A/Announcements

[Grace]

Detective...most of the police books I have read seem to have detectives as the lead.

[MountainKat, Moderator]

We will take all of those into consideration, no guarantees they will all be on the list though. We knew we were missing some, that's why we asked. 😊

[Hazel]

Security or bodyguard

[Becky]

Has there been any discussion on how we prove History? It says a book set at least 50 years ago. Sometimes a date is mentioned in the blurb or in the info on a book's main page, but mostly not. Will a tag of "historical" be enough, or a particular period, like "Regency" or "civil-war"?

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Becky wrote: "Has there been any discussion on how we prove History? It says a book set at least 50 years ago. Sometimes a date is mentioned in the blurb or in the info on a book's main page, but mostly not. Wil..."

That info will be included in the list we will post later.

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Date 4 - H - Tasks: Breakdown of qualifications of possible tasks for Date 4.


Please remember that all tags/lists must qualify IN CONTEXT!! Links MUST be provided.

Don't make more work for yourself than necessary - if the qualifier is in the title or on the cover, use it! You don't have to go searching for tags to make it work. 😊 If the link you use for the book is the same you are using for the page count and edition - say so (see above edition or something similar)! That saves us all some steps. But please double check your links!

You may use separate editions of your Scavenger Hunt books to qualify for the different tasks. Links MUST be provided.

H is for History - Read a book set at least 50 years ago. Qualification from the GR main book page, précis, tag or list.

You need a book set in 1969 or earlier. If the GR main book page shows a date for the setting, use that - if that shows a date after 1969, the book will not qualify even if the book would otherwise qualify. If the book is tagged historical, that will qualify the book unless the GR main book page date indicates otherwise. Tags, lists and precis indicating specific periods in history, WWII for example, will be allowed as long as the period is over 50 years ago. Tags, lists or precis that include periods less that 50 years ago, i.e. '60s-70s', will not be acceptable.


H is for Horizontal -Read a book whose cover shows a person in a horizontal or reclined position.

The upper body/back of a person on the cover must be reclined over 45 degrees from upright to qualify.

To further clarify, the person can't be more than 45 degrees off of the horizontal line - on their front, back or sideways. If the perspective of the cover is from a different angle, i.e. overhead, the cover will be allowed as long as there is NO DOUBT the person on the cover is lying down.


H is for Handcuff - Read a book featuring a MC in law enforcement. Qualification from the title, précis, tags or lists.

The following words will qualify your book in title, precis, tags or lists: law enforcement, police (and expansions), cop, detective, sheriff, deputy, marshal, lawman, Texas Ranger, Mountie (CMP), constable, men in blue, SWAT, FBI, DEA. These must be in context!!


H is for Home - Read a book with a building that could be a home on the cover.

The cover needs to show a building - house, cottage, mansion, castle, high rise, etc. A barn, storefront, courthouse or police department, etc. will not be allowed as they are not homes. Hotels/motels will also not be allowed. Interior images will not be allowed.

[Jane (PS), Moderator]

Hi Kat
Only just thought of this - will a city skyline work for the 'building that could be a home', or is that too generic?

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Jane (PS) wrote: "Hi Kat
Only just thought of this - will a city skyline work for the 'building that could be a home', or is that too generic?"

Without being able to see a distinct building, i.e. a distant view, it would not be acceptable. If there is a distinct building that could be a home, it would be allowed.

- This is good.
- These are not.

[Jane (PS), Moderator]

Ok - thanks! Could see this being a question later on :D

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Jane (PS) wrote: "Ok - thanks! Could see this being a question later on :D"

Yes, it is going to be a bit of a judgment call - can't see a way around that. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[PepperP0t]

MK/Karen--
There's an error on the scavenger rose tally. Team 6 claimed A Night to Surrender at #637 and team 1 claimed the same book at #67.

moved to scavenger rose thread.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Lauren wrote: "Question for the Scavenger Hunt book for H -

Can one edition have the characters horizontal and another edition have the house?"

Sorry for the delay in answering this...Kat and I discussed it, but I'm not sure we ever came to a final decision. 😁 I think the direction we were leaning is that while it would make our lives much easier to say it has to be the same edition, we allow different editions to be used for other things (like pub date, etc.). So yes, you can use different editions to find someone reclining and a home on the cover.

[Lauren]

~KarenH~ wrote: "Lauren wrote: "Question for the Scavenger Hunt book for H -

Can one edition have the characters horizontal and another edition have the house?"

Sorry for the delay in answering this...Kat and I d..."

Thanks, but she did put this in the qualification post yesterday...
You may use separate editions of your Scavenger Hunt books to qualify for the different tasks. Links MUST be provided.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Lauren wrote: "Thanks, but she did put this in the qualification post yesterday...
You may use separate editions of your Scavenger Hunt books to qualify for the different tasks. Links MUST be provided."

Ah, good to know. We were bouncing so many different things around I missed that she'd updated the qualifications!

[Becky]

Do they have to be on their back for Horizontal, or would something like this work?

What about this? They sort of look upright at first, but based on the way their hair is positioned, and what looks to be pillows behind the author's name, I think this is supposed to be a view from above.

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Becky wrote: "Do they have to be on their back for Horizontal, or would something like this work?

What about this? They sort of look upright at first, but based on the way t..."

The first one I'd say is fine - horizontal is horizontal, whether they're on their back or stomach. As for the 2nd one, I think I'll wait until Kat and I can discuss it before making the call on it! I can see valid reasons for going either way on it, so I'd rather not make a decision without her input - especially since it will hopefully only be a few hours after the theme call that we'll have a chance to chat about it.

[〰️Beth〰️]

MountainKat wrote: "Jane (PS) wrote: "Hi Kat
Only just thought of this - will a city skyline work for the 'building that could be a home', or is that too generic?"

Without being able to see a distinct building, i.e. ..."

Based on your description still shows several distinct buildings so it shouldn’t be acceptable

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

〰️Beth〰️ wrote: "Based on your description Ceremony in Death (In Death, #5) by J.D. Robb still shows several distinct buildings so it shouldn’t be acceptable."

Actually, the fact that you can see distinct buildings is what makes this one acceptable where the others aren't. The other two you can see different heights, but for the most part once they get low enough they all pretty much blend together and you can't tell where one starts and another ends, or they're so far away that they're just a dark rectangular blob rather than being easily identifiable as a building. Ultimately it's going to be a judgement call, so if you have one that is at all questioniable, just ask! 😊

[Jane (PS), Moderator]

@ Becky - Kat said the incline from upright to horizontal had to be 45 degrees or more in the clarifications. I’m on my phone so only half the covers turn up etc, but maybe that helps?

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

Date 4 - H

H is for History

Read a book set at least 50 years ago. Qualification from the GR main book page, précis, tag or list.

You need a book set in 1969 or earlier. If the GR main book page shows a date for the setting, use that - if that shows a date after 1969, the book will not qualify even if the book would otherwise qualify. If the book is tagged historical, that will qualify the book unless the GR main book page date indicates otherwise. Tags, lists and precis indicating specific periods in history, WWII for example, will be allowed as long as the period is over 50 years ago. Tags, lists or precis that include periods less that 50 years ago, i.e. '60s-70s', will not be acceptable.

Remember books must be 90 pages and MPG Romance!!

You have until Friday, July 26 @ Midnight US EST to post your completion(s).

Please ensure that your completion post conforms to message #2 of your team thread. If you complete more than one book for the date task, be sure to include that information in your completion post. Remember no discussion in your completion posts! Links are mandatory, if they are missing you will be asked to add them and REPOST.

[LaurLa]

Jane (PS) wrote: "@ Becky - Kat said the incline from upright to horizontal had to be 45 degrees or more in the clarifications. I’m on my phone so only half the covers turn up etc, but maybe that helps?"

For that cover, though, it appears to be 2 people laying on a flat surface but the perspective is from above, so on the cover they are vertical, but they are actually laying down horizontally. That's a tough call to make....

[~KarenH~, Moderator]

LaurLa wrote: "That's a tough call to make...."

Which is why I wimped out and decided to wait for Kat's input to answer! 😛 I know how I would answer it, and we usually think along the same lines, but since she's the actual host and this one is a bit weird, I figured better to wait.

[Becky]

~KarenH~ wrote: "LaurLa wrote: "That's a tough call to make...."

Which is why I wimped out and decided to wait for Kat's input to answer! 😛 I know how I would answer it, and we usually think along the same lines, ..."

It won't work for the Scavenger Hunt rose-- no house or law enforcement-- so no worries. Thanks for considering my weird example. :P

[Amanda]

Team 4 may have the Speed Dating rose again!

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Sorry guys - I didn't even get a chance to look at my computer yesterday! I was gone for over 12 hours on top of a family situation having my husband up and leaving in the middle of the night - so long day on top of little sleep on top of still recovering from surgery and I came home and collapsed!

Working to catch up now... 🧐

[MountainKat, Moderator]

I added some clarification for 'Horizontal' in the post above:

H is for Horizontal -Read a book whose cover shows a person in a horizontal or reclined position.

The upper body/back of a person on the cover must be reclined over 45 degrees from upright to qualify.

To further clarify, the person can't be more than 45 degrees off of the horizontal line - on their front, back or sideways. If the perspective of the cover is from a different angle, i.e. overhead, the cover will be allowed as long as there is NO DOUBT the person on the cover is lying down.

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Amanda wrote: "Team 4 may have the Speed Dating rose again!"

I will check on this after I get caught up!

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Amanda wrote: "Team 4 may have the Speed Dating rose again!"

Team 4 - Loving the Lotharios has won the Speed Dating Rose for Date 4!

Congrats Team 4!

[Mell]

Would The Grazier's Wife count for Historical? It's set in a couple of time periods, but one of them is 1946 as per the precis.

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Mell wrote: "Would The Grazier's Wife count for Historical? It's set in a couple of time periods, but one of them is 1946 as per the precis."

No, that is going to fall into this part of the qualifications in messages #706 and 720:

Tags, lists or precis that include periods less that 50 years ago, i.e. '60s-70s', will not be acceptable.

[Grace]

If the book is MPG historical, do you still want tags, or is stating MPG enough of a qualification?

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Grace wrote: "If the book is MPG historical, do you still want tags, or is stating MPG enough of a qualification?"

You can just say for that task qualification that the book is MPG historical. Saves us all some work!

[Grace]

MountainKat wrote: "Grace wrote: "If the book is MPG historical, do you still want tags, or is stating MPG enough of a qualification?"

You can just say for that task qualification that the book is MPG historical. Sav..."

Thanks!

[Sally906]

I’m thinking ahead for week 5 - I like to line up books ready for whatever task is selected.

For E is for Epicurean - Read a book with food on the cover or set in the food industry - Is this baby being fed by a bottle be accepted as food?

[[deleted user]]

MKat, will you double check our (Team 3) Scavenger Hunt Roses from Date 3? I thought Kristen got one and I got one. It looks like Kristen's (from the original Q&A post #659) was credited to Team #8 by mistake. Thanks!

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Cyndee wrote: "MKat, will you double check our (Team 3) Scavenger Hunt Roses from Date 3? I thought Kristen got one and I got one. It looks like Kristen's (from the original Q&A post #659) was credited to Team #8..."

I love that you all are so on top of things! Thank you for pointing that out! Yes, I will make that correction. 😊

Please, everyone, never hesitate to point out any errors I might make!

[Lauren]

Question for E book

If E is for Europe is chosen - is Scotland part of that?? I know that Ireland was considered Europe, but couldn't find Scotland on the list.

Also the book has been tagged Europe

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Lauren wrote: "Question for E book

If E is for Europe is chosen - is Scotland part of that?? I know that Ireland was considered Europe, but couldn't find Scotland on the list.

Also the book has been tagged Europe"

Scotland is part of the UK, but I can see how in a HR it might only be tagged with Scotland. I will add those countries as an exception to the list.

[Hazel]

Lauren wrote: "Question for E book

If E is for Europe is chosen - is Scotland part of that?? I know that Ireland was considered Europe, but couldn't find Scotland on the list.

Also the book has been tagged Europe"

At the moment Scotland is very much a part of Europe. The same for Ireland and Northern Ireland, Wales and England.

[Michaele]

For epicurean would a book tagged waiter/waitress/server or bartender work?

And would a humor tag count for emotion?

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Michaele wrote: "For epicurean would a book tagged waiter/waitress/server or bartender work?

And would a humor tag count for emotion?"

Working on the list of qualifications now, I don't want to answer until that is complete. I would hate to be sending out mixed messages! 🤪

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Sally906 wrote: "I’m thinking ahead for week 5 - I like to line up books ready for whatever task is selected.

For E is for Epicurean - Read a book with food on the cover or set in the food industry - Is this baby ..."

Yes.

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Michaele wrote: "For epicurean would a book tagged waiter/waitress/server or bartender work?

And would a humor tag count for emotion?"

Short answers - yes and yes. Look for more complete answer to follow.

[MountainKat, Moderator]

Looking for your input for one of the upcoming date tasks!

We will be using an inclusive list for Epicurean 'set in the food industry'. So far we have - restaurant, bar, nightclub, bistro, diner, cafe, chef, baker, cook, barista, waitress, waiter, server, bartender, caterer, grocer and butcher. Farmer and rancher will be excluded for this task. These MUST be in context - the precis stating that 'they met at the diner' will not be acceptable!

We feel this list is long enough already, but want to make sure we aren't missing something obvious. So most suggestions probably won't be added.

[LaurLa]

what about Pub? and should there be a comma between cafe and chef?

[LaurLa]

The book I just finished is Dreams of a Dark Warrior. It definitely takes place partially in the distant past and is tagged historical, but because it is also partially set in the present I'm afraid it won't count. Can you let me know if you would approve it? If I didn't tell you this, you wouldn't necessarily know from the precis that it is set both in the past and present but I wanted to be upfront about it :-)

Pretty please with strawberries on top??

[[deleted user]]

MountainKat wrote: "Looking for your input for one of the upcoming date tasks!

We will be using an inclusive list for Epicurean 'set in the food industry'. So far we have - restaurant, bar, nightclub, bistro, diner, ..."

I have one on my list of possibilities with 'pizzeria' in the precis...

[Susan (susayq ~)]

How about adding culinary to the list of approved words?

[MountainKat, Moderator]

LaurLa wrote: "what about Pub? and should there be a comma between cafe and chef?"

Yes, there should be a comma... 🤦🏻‍♀️

[MountainKat, Moderator]

LaurLa wrote: "The book I just finished is Dreams of a Dark Warrior. It definitely takes place partially in the distant past and is tagged historical, but because it is also partially set in the pr..."

It is properly tagged and not a combo tag and there is nothing on the main book page or in the precis to contradict that - the book will count. That is the situation where the tag fits, even if the book doesn't, it will count - I'm not going to punish someone for reading something in good faith. I appreciate your honesty though! 😊

Where that wouldn't work is if the precis stated a year in the past and a year more present day or if the tag included something less than 50 years ago.