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message 101: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
@Silvana: I agree to add your nominations to the Team#1 except for a tight spot in Novels: right now we have several group members, who wanted more books there but got only one and deprive them of their choice would be unfair. Is this enough for you to join Team#1? After all, you are in the better position as a paid member of SFWA.

Which brings me to another point: how do you look as a possibility to include some stuff in nominations, were you have less than 5 filled? Like in Novella or the whole 1943 part? I'll have no problems or grudge if you decline of course.

@Stephen:
We have one of your nominations for the novel (Record of a Spaceborn Few) in the list and I cannot include others (see the reason above). Adding Spiderman into the Spiderverse for Best Dramatic Presentation Long Form. Is this enough for you to join Team#1?

@All:
Please check if anything you agreed to is missing from the Team#1 list and inform me here.

The list will be finalised in two days


message 102: by Stephen (new)

Stephen Richter (stephenofskytrain) | 25 comments yes it is okay


message 103: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 39 comments Where can I find the list? Is there a team #2? It would be great if Semiosis is there. It truly deserves a nod.

I am fine with novella since I don't think I could add another before the deadline. I might add one or two to the novelette and short stories list but that's about it. I don't have any objections to the 1943 stuff.


message 104: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
Silvana wrote: "Where can I find the list? Is there a team #2? "

The list is the message of this thread #72, 2nd page.

The team #2 has not been created by anyone (how to create teams see message #1 of this thread)

We are a little over our initial deadline (Feb 28) so I don't think that creating team #2 would be a good idea now.

re putting stuff on your list - you can select everything you want to add to your list from message b#72


message 105: by pareidolia (new)

pareidolia  | 34 comments Oh my, I've completely missed that an English translation of Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko is eligible for the Hugos.

I'm not going to change my nominations now (I haven't read the translation, after all), but I really hope to see it on the final ballot. Always nice to see something from my part of the world getting credit and mixing up the anglophone-dominated award-lists.


message 106: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 39 comments Oleksandr wrote: "Silvana wrote: "Where can I find the list? Is there a team #2? "

The list is the message of this thread #72, 2nd page.

The team #2 has not been created by anyone (how to create teams see message..."


No problem, I was too late anyway.


message 107: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
Donna wrote: "Oh my, I've completely missed that an English translation of Vita Nostra by Marina Dyachenko is eligible for the Hugos."

Yes, Dyachenkos are good. However, it is very rare that a translated novel gets Hugo nomination - the case of The Three-Body Problem was made possible by the fact that after Puppies campaign several authors withdrew their works from nomination


message 108: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
I just finished Semiosis and I agree - it is very good.

Now we finish our nomination process. Let us hope our voices will matter!


message 109: by Art, Stay home, stay safe. (new)

Art | 2546 comments Mod
Oleksandr wrote: "I just finished Semiosis and I agree - it is very good.

Now we finish our nomination process. Let us hope our voices will matter!"


Thanks to all members for participating in the event, was an exciting experience.

Also a huge thanks to Oleksandr for staying on top of it!


message 110: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 39 comments Edited and added some to my list. Pretty giddy since today's the deadline.


message 111: by Ed (new)

Ed Erwin | 907 comments I wouldn't mind if someone wants to remove my 1943 suggestion for "Heaven can wait". It is quite good, but the fantasy part is only a short frame around the start and end of the story, which is otherwise a realistic story.

I rewatched "Meshes of the Afternoon" and though I still don't understand it, I still consider it very notable and want to keep that nomination in place.


message 112: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
From what I understand, Bryan already entered the list as appeared in post #72, so I guess it is too late to change anything


message 113: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
An update on how our nominees fared:Best 2018 Novel
Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky - not in top16
The Calculating Stars by Mary Robinette Kowal - won
Semiosis by Sue Burke - 14th place
Blackfish City by Sam J. Miller - 8th place
Record of a Spaceborn Few by Becky Chambers - 4th place

Best 2018 Novella
Expert System's Brother by Adrian Tchaikovsky - 14th
The Freeze-Frame Revolution by Peter Watts - 15th
Artificial Condition by Martha Wells - 1st
Phoresis by Greg Egan -no
Beneath the Sugar Sky by Seanan McGuire - 3rd

Best 2018 Novelette
The Only Harmless Great Thing by Brooke Bolander - 1st in nominees, prelast in voting
Finding Baba Yaga: A Short Novel in Verse by Jane Yolen - no
The thing about ghost stories by Kritzer, Naomi - 4th
The Substance of My Lives, The Accidents of Our Birth by José Pablo Iriarte - 8th


Best 2018 Short Story
And Yet by A.T. Greenblatt - 16th
Meat And Salt And Sparks by Rich Larson - 7th
"Aware" by C. Robert Cargill. (In Resist ) - no
The Farm by Charlie Jane Anders - no
A Witch’s Guide To Escape: A Practical Compendium Of Portal Fantasies by Alix E. Harrow - 1st and winner


message 114: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 39 comments Yay for Rich Larson, Sam Miller, Sue Burke and Jose Iriarte! Not bad. Their categories were the hardest this year.


message 115: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
Silvana wrote: "Yay for Rich Larson, Sam Miller, Sue Burke and Jose Iriarte! Not bad. Their categories were the hardest this year."

yes, they did well. I'm still surprised that Children of Time haven't been in top-16, especially if his novella made it (I assume novellas are less read than novels)


message 116: by Dennis (new)

Dennis (villyidol) | 44 comments Do we have the complete results posted somewhere?


message 117: by Silvana (new)

Silvana (silvaubrey) | 39 comments Check the 'Let Guess... " thread.


message 118: by Dennis (new)

Dennis (villyidol) | 44 comments Ah, perfect. Thank you, Silvana! :)

Wow, Space Opera only fourth. And my other favorites didn't make the top three either in their respective category, except for Negro Teeth. I'm a little disappointed.


message 119: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
Dennis wrote: "Wow, Space Opera only fourth. And my other favorites didn't make the top three either in their respective category, except for Negro Teeth. I'm..."

And your favs were?


message 120: by Dennis (new)

Dennis (villyidol) | 44 comments Space Opera for Best Novel
The Black God’s Drums for Best Novella
Nine Last Days on Planet Earth or When We Were Starless for Best Novelette
The Secret Lives of the Nine Negro Teeth of George Washington for Best Short Story
Saga, Volume 9 or On a Sunbeam for Best Graphic Story

I actually rated On a Sunbeam lower than Saga and Paper Girls. But since they are volumes of a larger series, and - even though they are good - they were not the best volumes in the respective series, I would have probably voted for On a Sunbeam. I have a feeling I rated this one too low anyway, because at the time it was my first Graphic Novel and I still needed to get used to the different form of storytelling.

I'm content with the winners for Best Short Story and Best Novelette, even though I wouldn't have voted for them. Best Novel, I'm not so sure. Best Novella? No way!
No offense. I like Martha Wells, and anyone can vote for what they think deserves it, of course. But personally I just don't see it.

Your favorites?


message 121: by Dennis (new)

Dennis (villyidol) | 44 comments P.S. Now that I've seen which books didn't make the cut, my favorite for Best Graphic Story would actually have been The Electric State. This one's just brilliant and even my favorite across all categories.


message 122: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
My favs are of three types:
1. what I nominated
2. what I'd like to win among nominees
3. what I thought will win.

for novel I hoped to pull through Children of Time but they aren't even in top-16. Among the nominees I supported (and thought it'll win) Spinning Silver even despite there are some problems with the book


message 123: by Nick (new)

Nick Imrie (nickimrie) | 137 comments I agree, Oleksadr. I wish Children of Time had done better, it really deserved to!


message 124: by Dennis (new)

Dennis (villyidol) | 44 comments I have to admit that I've read neither of those. Even though Children of Time is standing on my shelf since forever. I'm actually quite surprised that it was eligible for this year's awards.


message 125: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
for novella I wanted The Expert System's Brother, it was in top-16 but below cutoff. Among the rest I liked Gods, Monsters, and the Lucky Peach, but Well's victory was expected. As for The Black God's Drums, as I wrote in my review, interesting setting but overpowering of Haiti (not one but two superweapons + all the tech) remind me of modern Russian SFF with ideas that in real world others only seek how to hurt the motherland but with tech Russia will show itself as a glorious world ruler


message 126: by Dennis (new)

Dennis (villyidol) | 44 comments Gods, Monsters, and the Lucky Peach is actually one that I still want to read, as I really loved one of Robson's stories in the past. Truth be told, I messed up my Hugo reading this year as I somehow thought the awards would be next weekend. Stupid, really.

Wells' story was fun to read, but also pretty mediocre imo, except for the fantastic main character, which was already introduced with last year's winner. So I just don't see why I should have voted for it.


message 127: by Oleksandr, a.k.a. Acorn (new)

Oleksandr Zholud | 5556 comments Mod
Dennis wrote: "Wells' story was fun to read, but also pretty mediocre imo, except for the fantastic main character, which was already introduced with last year's winner. So I just don't see why I should have voted for it. "

At least for me it reminded of older lighter SF, unlike more gloomy dystopian fades of the present. I agree that it was no improvement over the first book, but is it still an easy escapist read and this is its advantage I guess.


message 128: by Dennis (new)

Dennis (villyidol) | 44 comments Yeah, I think you're right. Nothing wrong with that, really. I enjoy those kind of stories too. I just didn't think it was award worthy. But, obviously, I was wrong. Lol.


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