The Sword and Laser discussion
Rocket Talk podcast, Tor.com #23
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For various definitions of fair minded and non accusatory.
I will admit I gave up about halfway through the "let's complain about epic fantasy" conversation after the three of them did nothing but stereotype both the genre and the readership in order to complain about the genre and readership.

I would hope that this podcast can spark some good, honest, and respectful discussion.

This was a good listen. I didn't know Jemisin wrote the Dreamblood before selling 100K Kingdoms and that no publisher wanted to pick it up until after. Not surprising, though--I still get visibly angry when I think about how publishers treated Charles Saunders and his Imaro books (Sword & sorcery in an African setting); two publishers in different decades dropped him mid-series, and even now he's only getting work out via a small press or by himself despite being an influential and highly-regarded author.
They are both very well spoken, passionate about the topic, and very fair minded and non accusatory about a very touchy subject. They talked deeply about some very important things. You might enjoy it and it might even make you think.
Sorry to promote a competing podcast ;)