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Watcha Doin' - 2019
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Jan 16, 2019 10:53AM

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Oh, yeah. I have noticed this too.

I have Android. Maybe that is the thing.
At home I used the website most of the time because I had a comfy place to put my computer which was open most of the day, so I would just check my notifications there. Now in the house we are renting in France I don't have that luxury so my computer is closed most of the day. I then use more my phone for everything, not only GR.

Still the app has so so so many bugs...


What I meant about the iOS update was punctually about reading spoilers. If we are right then maybe the android version was updated but the iOS one still has to be updated to read spoilers. Don't know.

I was just thinking that android vs ios probably has something to do with all issues people are experiencing, but can't explain everything.


The Apple mobile app does not allow replys (it is not active and never has been). The Android mobile app does not have a reply either. I only use the Android app to update my reading status, if my iPod is not available. I really do not like it at all.
I receive notices in both the online version and in the Apple mobile app and can read everyone's posts in all of the threads.
Neither of the mobile version apps allow book links. The feature is not shown. I can only link or edit comments or make replys in the online version.



In (almost) every post from others I can’t read the second last line because there are missing things words 😡

And I agree about the Gillette ad, mountain out of a mole hill. I don't understand getting worked up about an ad that encourages you to be a good human.

I've not seen the advert so cannot comment but what you and Rusalka both say about it has me agreeing with you guys.



Thanks Sandra! I can only applaud this. I think it's great that Gilette has a commercial like this. Hopefully they will also actually act upon it and not just do it for show. I agree Travis, I think the people offended by it may be people who actually act like this or condone it.

The criticism is that it's shaming little boys to feel bad about being boys and telling them they are inferior to women, it's emasculating men, and it's ignoring the fact that "boys will be boys".
Le sigh.
I think I must have watched the wrong ad.


Like anything when you want to make a point you're going to go to the extreme side of things. I'm sure there are parts of the Gillette commercial that is boys being boys but a lot of it is boys behaving inappropriate. Basically parents need to start raising their kids and teaching morals.
That's my take. I didn't feel my manliness was at stake by that commercial at all and people are blowing this thing out of proportion.
This is just like the all lives matter being a protest of the black lives matter. BLM isn't saying they're the only ones that matter and by creating all lives matter it's a protest of a protest and essentially is people instead of listening to the BLM and saying how can society do better they protest and ignore what's being said.
Biggest problem is the other side of anything not listening to the side who's bringing an issue to light instead they ignore it and protest the movement which makes no communication and nothing gets changed or made better.as a people we have to do better.
Maybe instead of all these men getting butt hurt over the commercial they should say yeah there are Some men acting inappropriate and this has to be addressed. Instead they argue like in this case Gillette is attacking all men. No they aren't.

As someone who grew up with a neighbourhood of boys, and many brothers, I have never liked the boys will be boys thing. Kids are kids is my own thinking. However, where all of that falls down is when kids are jerks. Picking on the weakest, teasing, bullying, full on fighting, it didn't matter if it was me or the boys, we all got firmly told that was the line and we had crossed. Kids are naturally a little feral, but don't be a dick. And people carry those lessons of interpersonal relationships into adulthood.
They (Gillette) are raising the discussion about what it is to be a good person. And hoping that more people (probably women) will buy their products in the meantime.


Also, I'm not sure about in other countries, but in Australia there is a female tax on toiletries. Usually you will find things like shampoo, deodorant, razors, soap, etc. that if it is marketed to women, the price is 15% higher than if it is marketed to men. And when you look at the ingredients, they are identical (or with things like razors, there is none!). I frequently buy things in the "mens" section for this reason.


Women have been targeted by ads over the years to be better. It's kind of amusing to see the tables turned and see the reaction when men are on the receiving end of it.
Now Gillette and other companies can start to have the discussion about why they charge women more money for the same product.

It is pointing out that people learn from what the see. It is trying to encourage people to not just look away when people behave inappropriately.
Saying boys will be boys is saying it is okay to behave in that manner. If you don't let someone know their behavior is hurtful they will continue to behave that way.
We need to teach children. We need to stop giving them a pass because that's how it always has been. Yes boys will be boys but they can learn.

Also, regarding male/female products. I honestly believe that at least half the time we could do away with the male/female versions. Often the only difference is that one is pink and the other blue. It's ridiculous to pay more for a stereotypically gendered color.

For real the ad isn't even targeting men as much as parents to teach their kids. And to teach kids they need both a father and a mother figure regardless if they live together or if one is deceased. Maybe could say they need a male and female mentor. And the male mentor needs to teach them to be respectful men and the difference between right and wrong.

Someone has to stand up and be the sacrificial lamb. The first one to take a stand always becomes the whipping boy. Ask Colin Kaepernick

I can't stand the phrase, "boys will be boys." It really is just an excuse to not parent your children. It also gives the impression that boys aren't capable of behaving properly, as if they can't be kind, caring, thoughtful, etc little kids. It is not ok for your kid to be a jerk whether they are boys or girls.



As for the new Gillett add I would imagine that most imagine that most of the controversy has been fuelled by the advertising agency to get people to notice the slogan change.

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