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Watcha Doin' - 2019


Thank you! Sorry you missed it too, but hopefully you'll be available when we have the next one. Those topplers just keep coming!




Travis - I love the way you worded that. It's very accurate. All part of life, but so much at once is hard to process. Also, I'm very glad your kids are alright!

Awful :(
Also NZ is one of the last places where I would expect something like this to happen.


And I am even more angry as this totally glossed over the fact that thousands and thousands of kids from so many backgrounds wagged school today together to protest something that affects us all, climate change, and some selfish, racist, hateful, violent white supremacists decided to do this instead and completely overwrite the unity the rest of us were experiencing when it happened. How. Dare. They.
And I'm even more annoyed as we just saw Tim Minchin live tonight which was great, but it was 2 hours out of a horrible day. And I feel I've been ripped off of riding the post show high.
All because at least 4 people decided they have the right to kill and maim people who they deem inferior to them by some arbitrary definition. To terrorise an entire city. To have kids in lock down in schools until 6pm at night. To lock down hospitals. To tell people not to go outside. How. Dare. They.
Get in the fricking bin.




Welcome back Laura. that was a rough beginning. Hopefully things will get better from now on.
Take care Sarah. Hope it does not last.
I was pretty much offline for the last 2 weeks as Sock Madness began. I finished knitting my qualifying pair, so I am back on normal schedule for a bit until the real competition begins. So expect me on and off (Do not send a St Bernard although the Brandy is welcome!) until I get kicked off. This was mid April last year. I will be surprise if I make it that far this year.

Welcome back Laura. that was a rough beginning. Hopefully things will get better from now on.
Take care Sarah. Hope it do..."
What round did you get to? I've made a couple of pairs of socks but nothing competition worthy. Good luck. Keep us posted on far you get this year.

Some knitters in my knitting circle were doing it and, last year, I jumped in.,,,.I had way to much fun. One of the goals of this is to challenge knitters and put them out of their comfort zone. I did learned a lot. (and seriously, would I have a pair of socks with dragons otherwise?)
Long story short, you have two weeks to do your qualifying pair of socks. If you do, you are put in a team. Then we have rounds where only an allotted number of slots are available for the next round, so the teams get smaller until only one member per team is left.
I made it to round 4 last year. Knitting a dragon in colorwork on a plane is not something I recommend. I did not make it. :)
For the curious, this is what I knit last year (including 2 bonus/warm up patterns)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BlyJonynA...



Some knitters in my knitting circle were doing it and, last year, I jumped in.,,,.I had way to much ..."
Sounds great! Best of luck for this year!

I wrote this last night trying to make sense of my head:
"I'm tired. And angry. And so sad. But so so so SO incredibly angry.
We knew this was coming. We knew that the anti-Islamic sentiment and bile we have been spewing in this country since 9/11 would result in this.
Oh, one woman's hijab being ripped off on the train, or a group of people screaming "go back to were you came from" to someone who isn't Anglo doesn't mean anything. It's one person.
Senators or Ministers in government spurting bullshit about the final solution in regards to Muslims, or stirring up anti-Islamic sentiment to win an election or several, or when that wears thin, lets move to "African gangs" (ignoring there are 54-6 different countries in Africa, and many many more ethic groups and religions. Fear-mongering doesn't need your facts!).
The constant hatred that our Governments have tried to instill in us about brown people in boats trying to come to Australia from war zones, when willfully ignoring the amount of Brits and Irish overstaying their tourist visas in Australia.
I'm not surprised. I am disgusted. I've felt physically sick for a day now. My heart actually aches with all of this.
The lives lost are heartbreaking. And they are so familiar. The welcoming grandfather at the door to the mosque for example, reminds me of all the beautiful welcomers at the doors of church when I was so involved. Those wonderful people who were there to make you feel safe at a place of worship.
Yet I feel we let a lot of these particular people in NZ down, as what did we welcome them in to? They should have been as safe as they made us feel in these places.
I love Australia, and I love New Zealand. We've often talked about moving across the ditch. And we say this isn't us.
But I know how we got to this state of white supremacy. We let this happen on our watch. We let things run for too long. We are complicit. We are willful bystanders of this racism. We don't and didn't stand up to our media, our politicians. And they converted people to this way of thinking. Our rationalisation that people were smart enough to see through this crap is wrong, as if you repeat things often enough they become true as people start to believe it.
We can't hand wring about this. We have the federal election soon, those of you in NSW have an election on the weekend. We need to send a message we don't condone this shit any more through our voting. We need to make our workplaces and companies we associate with turn off Sky News, buying the Australian, and it's ilk. We need to actively and physically stand with marginalised communities and say we don't accept your narrative of division anymore. We are better than this, and we are only better than this when we stand together. And that is the only thing keeping me together over this.
We are better together, and we can fight the doctrine of hate.
So please, channel your inner Sarah and repeat with me: You have no power over me."

We're going to head to the local mosque tomorrow for a prayer service and vigil. While I am lapsed religious, Lexx is very much not and a person of science. So the fact when I mentioned it to him he was all "Yup, let's go!" shows how much this has rocked the Antipodes. We are all gagging to jump up and down and say this is completely f**ked up.




I did celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day but a day early. I was in a parade on a float called The Sirens of the a Sea ( an all female krewe.) I’ve been recovering ever since. Plus two separate groups of houseguests have brought my reading to a screeching halt. This week will be better, hopefully.

We might have had a terrorist attack this morning. Nothing the size of NZ and not many details have come out yet. Someone started shooting in a tram in Utrecht (second largest city), and according to the police it has many characteristics of a terrorist attack (but they don't say what exactly). They also haven't given any information about victims, but according to witnesses one person is dead and several others are injured. Schools and universities have closed their doors, no one can get in or out. Trains don't stop in the city. There's a press conference in 10 minutes.

Totally agree. It does my head in. And I understand about the funk feeling.

Jeez that is. We haven't heard about it hear as everyone is banging on about how we aren't racist. So therefore real news is getting forfeited. That's pretty horrific!

Can I just say this sounds like the awesomest party I was not at and I am very jealous.

I actually got sick, so didn't go. And feel like a fraud. "People got shot and died, and I have a sniffle and didn't go to a mosque" is my thinking tonight. Yet I also think that infecting 50 people with my head cold is also a shitty thing to do.
What I am thinking of doing, is setting up introduction to Islam courses if the Centres or Mosques are up for it. I know a little of Islam from a uni course I did, but most of my friends know nothing. I've been thinking for years of a 1001 intro course of what Islam is and what they believe would be super useful for dealing with the narrative of what the right wing media says. Here is what you've heard, and here are the facts, kind of thing.

This literally popped up on my screen while i was typing the above. Glad you're okay Peggy.
Jeez I am sick of these arseholes...


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On top of that, I had been dealing with a very negative work environment and a boss that was never pleased with anything I did. I'm no longer in that job, had a month home with family to try to deal and help them deal and am now at a new job I'm very hopefully about!
I've missed this group and having time and motivation to read! Hopefully I can catch up on comments and maybe read a book or two before the month ends. I hope you all are doing well and I'm excited to get back into the discussions!
Oh and I can't believe I missed the Harry Potter toppler! Kristie that was such a cool toppler idea!