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2019 Challenge Prompt - Advanced > 41 - A "cli fi" book

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message 51: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9680 comments Mod
Ian wrote: "Would The Fifth Season count here?"

I think so. I haven't read it yet, but I see it on lists for cli-fi.


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Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 1756 comments Ian wrote: "Would The Fifth Season count here?"

Yes, the "seasons" cause major climate shifts which affect how everyone lives. It's such a good trilogy!


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Brittany Morrison | 145 comments I read A Madness So Discreet by Mindy McGinnis this year and really enjoyed her writing. This will give me a chance to read another one of her books Not a Drop to Drink


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Tracy (tracyisreading) | 608 comments Shannen wrote: "Does Flight Behavior by Barbara Kingsolver qualify?"

Yes!!!I just added it to my plan because I realized I had already used The Water Knife for ATY. I figured that I would give Barbara Kingsolver another try.


Dedra ~ A Book Wanderer (abookwanderer) | 190 comments I think The Dry will work for this, right?


message 56: by Trish (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 265 comments For folks who like slightly more obscure books, I'd like to suggest The Blood of Angels, by Johanna Sinisalo, which I reckon would fit this prompt.


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Maja  - BibliophiliaDK ✨ (bibliophiliadk) | 35 comments Not having read the book but having seen the show, I think The 100 would work for this prompt


message 58: by Jen (new)

Jen (jentrewren) Maja wrote: "Not having read the book but having seen the show, I think The 100 would work for this prompt"

Yeah the whole series would.


Raquel (Silver Valkyrie Reads) | 896 comments Dedra wrote: "I think The Dry will work for this, right?"

I haven't read it yet, but I thought it was a present day murder mystery, so I don't *think* it fits this prompt.


message 60: by Lindi (new)

Lindi (lindimarie) I'm going with Oryx and Crake as well!


message 61: by Soph ♡ (new)

Soph ♡ | 130 comments I've decided on We All Looked Up by Tommy Wallach by Tommy Wallach


Dedra ~ A Book Wanderer (abookwanderer) | 190 comments Raquel wrote: "Dedra wrote: "I think The Dry will work for this, right?"

I haven't read it yet, but I thought it was a present day murder mystery, so I don't *think* it fits this prompt."


Ah, you're right. It is present day.


message 63: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1301 comments As I understand cli-fi it doesn't have to be speculative or set in the future. It is simply fiction dealing with climate change.


message 64: by Dedra ~ A Book Wanderer (last edited Nov 19, 2018 11:34PM) (new)

Dedra ~ A Book Wanderer (abookwanderer) | 190 comments I found this article on Cli-fi: https://www.google.com/amp/s/bookriot...

It even has a link to a free cli-fi short story! :)


message 65: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 1756 comments I haven't read The Dry but if the drought in it plays an important part, I'd count it as cli-fi. I'd also say something like Salvage the Bones counts too.


message 66: by Tracy (last edited Nov 20, 2018 03:32AM) (new)

Tracy (tracyisreading) | 608 comments Johanne wrote: "As I understand cli-fi it doesn't have to be speculative or set in the future. It is simply fiction dealing with climate change."

If it doesn't count only Spec Fic then I would say The Dry would count, even though the story is a murder mystery. It was a REALLY good book. I don't know that a drought in the Australian Outback is climate change for that area, but it definitely played a big role in the setting of the story.


message 67: by Johanne (last edited Nov 20, 2018 04:22AM) (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1301 comments Tracy wrote: "Johanne wrote: "As I understand cli-fi it doesn't have to be speculative or set in the future. It is simply fiction dealing with climate change."

If it doesn't count only Spec Fic then I would say..."


I am not sure, but that´s how I understand the genre definition. Calling the experts! (Nadine?).
And in that case The Dry would fit, as per Ellies argument.


message 68: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 9680 comments Mod
I agree, cli-fi is ANY fiction that involves climate change.

I do not know if droughts are part of climate change in Australia or if they are common, but in the book it was described as being very unusual, so I think it's fair to say it's climate change and therefore The Dry qualifies as "cli fi" because the drought is described many times in the plot, so it's a big part of the book.


Raquel (Silver Valkyrie Reads) | 896 comments Nadine wrote: "I agree, cli-fi is ANY fiction that involves climate change.

I do not know if droughts are part of climate change in Australia or if they are common, but in the book it was described as being ver..."


Oh, very interesting! Having not read it yet, I had the impression that it was just normal weather patterns. It's on my list for 'read a book during the season it's set in' though (which I assumed to winter, because Google told me that's the dry season in Australia, but know I'm wondering if it's more complicated than that).


message 70: by Aimee Dars (new)

Aimee Dars (aimeedars) | 102 comments The Dry is a very well-written mystery! The Kindle edition is on sale today. https://smile.amazon.com/Dry-Novel-Ja...


message 71: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 1756 comments The word "drought" applies to a prolonged period with less precipitation than is normal for the region. Of course they might be using it incorrectly but it does sound like a worse than usual year for them.


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Shanna May | 3 comments Haven't read it but I think Ice by Anna Kavan fits


message 73: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1301 comments All this talk of 'the Dry'... I came across 'Dry' by Neal and Jarrod Shustermann among the new books in my library today. That also seems a good fit here.


message 74: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 1756 comments Johanne wrote: "All this talk of 'the Dry'... I came across 'Dry' by Neal and Jarrod Shustermann among the new books in my library today. That also seems a good fit here."

I'm quite tempted to use these as my two books with (nearly) the same title. I'll be reading cli-fi all over the place!


message 75: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1301 comments Yeah, that's what I thought ;) cli-fi is not a prompt that'll cause me any problems in any case.


message 76: by Tricia (last edited Nov 24, 2018 02:24AM) (new)

Tricia | 126 comments Raquel wrote: "Nadine wrote: "I agree, cli-fi is ANY fiction that involves climate change.

I do not know if droughts are part of climate change in Australia or if they are common, but in the book it was describ..."


It is more complicated than that. Different parts of Australia have dry and wet seasons in different parts of the year. For example in Brisbane (where I am) and Darwin we have dry winters and wet summers. Melbourne and Perth have dry summers and wet winters. It would depend where the book is set.

Droughts are very common here but they are getting worse and climate change is of the reasons put forward for that.


message 77: by Jen (new)

Jen (jentrewren) Tricia wrote: "Raquel wrote: "Nadine wrote: "I agree, cli-fi is ANY fiction that involves climate change.

I do not know if droughts are part of climate change in Australia or if they are common, but in the book..."


But are your dry and wet coming when they are meant to? Ours (Darwin) aren't they have gone mental the last couple of years eg a mini dry in the middle of the wet etc.


message 78: by Madelynp (new)

Madelynp | 1 comments Consider New York 2140 and A Visit from the Goon Squad--both deal with a flooded Manhattan in the near(ish) future! New York 2140 follows a group of people through a single year, while A Visit from the Goon Squad ends in NYC after sea level has risen.


message 79: by Juniper (new)

Juniper (jooniperd) i think doris lessing's Mara and Dann would work here.


message 80: by David (new)

David Cromarty | 64 comments I've been meaning to read Flood by Stephen Baxter for years now. Looks like a perfect fit.


message 81: by Bert (new)

Bert (beckybug3) | 20 comments I am considering Flare by Roger Zelanzy. It is about the after effects to humanity after a Solar Flare impacts electricity, satellites, communications, etc.

Would this count as climate Fiction?


message 82: by Phair (new)

Phair (sphair) Science in the Capitol series by Kim Stanley Robinson is about climate change. Bk 1 is Forty Signs of Rain


message 83: by SadieReadsAgain (new)

SadieReadsAgain (sadiestartsagain) | 767 comments I think The Sunlight Pilgrims sounds like cli-fi.


message 84: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (shadow2451) | 23 comments I saw The Calculating Stars on the 2018 Goodreads awards list for Sci Fi and it looks like a really interesting cli-fi read. It's an alternate history where a catastrophic asteroid hits Earth in 1952 and the space program becomes humanity's last hope for survival. The main story is about women pilots trying to become astronauts in the male-dominated 1950s.


message 85: by Bookishly (new)

Bookishly Pleasant (bookishlypleasant) | 7 comments The Exodus Trilogy by Julie Bertagna is perfect for this :)


message 86: by DarthVixReads (new)

DarthVixReads | 6 comments I think I am going with Blackfish City by Sam J Miller for this one. Been really intrigued by it and this is a great excuse to finally read it. The description on Amazon says that it deals with the consequences of climate change among other things. Pretty excited for it.


message 87: by Darlene (new)

Darlene | 35 comments I have this on my bookshelf, and I think it will fit:

Breathe by Sarah Crossan


message 88: by Tabitha (last edited Dec 14, 2018 03:42PM) (new)

Tabitha (ellornaslibrary) Some Cli-Fi suggestions: they can be found near the bottom.
Another List

Some others I saw:

Anchor Point
We Are Unprepared
Polar City Red
Station Eleven
California
The Marrow Thieves
Trail of Lightning
(the last two could also count for own voices)

Just came across something called The Warmer Collection. Seven different novels by seven different authors that would qualify as Cli-Fi, and iirc it looks like they might all be available on Kindle Unlimited(not sure about if any are on Prime Reading). They also seem to be able to be read as stand-alones so you don't have to read all 7 of them.


message 89: by HopeRose (new)

HopeRose (hoperosepuroll) | 3 comments A Friend of the Earth is one I had to read for school and it still sticks with me years later. I think absolutely everyone should read it.


message 90: by Courtney (new)

Courtney Robertson | 1 comments Gold Fame Citrus would be a great contender for this category I think.


message 91: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (rellareads) | 27 comments Dry by Neal Shusterman
This should work and I have been been wanting to read it since I picked it up!


message 92: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 3 comments Ship Breaker and The Water Knife, both by PB, I read recently and enjoyed.


message 93: by Brandyn (new)

Brandyn (brandy_k) | 82 comments I don't think anyone has mentioned Life As We Knew It. An asteroid hits the moon and moves it closer to the Earth causing major weather impacts. Its a really easy, but also very interesting read.

I picked up The End We Start From at a book swap last night and I think that will be my pick for this category.


☘Misericordia☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ (misericordia) | 36 comments Maybe this series will work as well (I think it wasn't mentioned, yet!)
Ashfall Ashen Winter Sunrise

Ashfall (Ashfall, #1) by Mike Mullin Ashen Winter (Ashfall, #2) by Mike Mullin Sunrise (Ashfall, #3) by Mike Mullin

Easy and interesting read


message 95: by Renn (new)

Renn (inquisitiveowl) | 42 comments ☘Misericordia☘ ~ The Serendipity Aegis ~ wrote: "Maybe this series will work as well (I think it wasn't mentioned, yet!)
Ashfall Ashen Winter Sunrise

Ashfall (Ashfall, #1) by Mike Mullin [bookcover:Ashen Wint..."


For some reason I thought that cli-fi has to do with global warming... If so, I’m not sure if Ashfall would work, unless it addresses the warming affects the supervolcano has on the planet. If not, could someone please explain cli-fi for me?


message 96: by ☘Misericordia☘ (last edited Jan 01, 2019 05:53AM) (new)

☘Misericordia☘ ⚡ϟ⚡⛈⚡☁ ❇️❤❣ (misericordia) | 36 comments Sarina wrote: "For some reason I thought that cli-fi has to do with global warming... If so, I’m not sure if Ashfall would work, unless it addresses the warming affects the supervolcano has on the planet. If not, could someone please explain cli-fi for me? "So did I but thn stumbled at this topic and realised this genre could be wider.

The series is not about warming but rather about the onset of global permanent winter after the eruption of Yellowstone due to ejection of all the ash into the higher layers of atmosphere. So, I think it has a chance to work and decided to suggest it.

Concerning the genre, here's what was discussed about in on the previous page:

Nadine wrote: ""Cli fi" is speculative fiction about climate change."
Ellie wrote: "Cli-fi does not need to be science fiction or apocalyptic, it can be about how the current climate affects lives, think books about characters surviving drought, floods, hurricanes, severe snow, wild fires etc. "
Hope wrote: "@Jen id say climate change is climate change whatever caused it! "


message 97: by Renn (new)

Renn (inquisitiveowl) | 42 comments ☘Misericordia☘ ~ The Serendipity Aegis ~ wrote: "Sarina wrote: "For some reason I thought that cli-fi has to do with global warming... If so, I’m not sure if Ashfall would work, unless it addresses the warming affects the supervolcano has on the ..."

Cool, thanks!


message 98: by Taylor (new)

Taylor | 17 comments The Road
Should work was a really good book.


message 99: by Janet (last edited Jan 01, 2019 11:24AM) (new)

Janet Cripe (jcripe) | 39 comments State of Fear by Michael Crichton by Michael Crichton is an interesting read in which Crichton posits that we know very little about the earth’s natural cycles to understand climate change and man’s impact upon it.


message 100: by Jen (new)

Jen (jentrewren) ☘Misericordia☘ ~ The Serendipity Aegis ~ wrote: "Sarina wrote: "For some reason I thought that cli-fi has to do with global warming... If so, I’m not sure if Ashfall would work, unless it addresses the warming affects the supervolcano has on the ..."

Hmm that sounds interesting and certainly something which could happen.


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