Change the World: The Choice discussion
The Pro's and Con's of a World Without Money
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Aug 19, 2009 02:02AM
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Wow, thats pretty deep Jocelyn. I agree completely, though I doubt I could have put it that elegantly. I think humans are motivated by greed and self preservation, if we didn't have currency, then we would have the barter system, or rationing coupons, or something similar. Then people would stil steal, and their would be forgery and stealing with the coupon system. And stealing with the barter one as well.
Wow, I really appreciate that. Thank you, you've made my week!
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Possession. People say that is what causes greed. But money puts value to possession, without value anything possession stands for is obviously inherent to that person and not to others. If money didn't exist there would be no disparity of wealth and the world would be a more egalitarian place. I realise that to imagine a world without it is like saying to people that up is down r black is white, they simply don't want to hear it. But seriously there is value in what i am saying, all wars are based upon monetary unions (e.g. the north american monetary alliance, look it up if you don't know what i'm talking about) the countries are run by bankers. It means we don't have a vote in democracy because governments (put simply here) do what businesses tell them to, it's all about balloting and banking. Were in a global recession now (whatever that is, because there's enough money to go around, its all an illusion). Im not saying there wouldnt be issues, i understand that to impose this into an everyday world would be nearly impossible. FOr one thing people want to become richer than their fellow man. Most people dont care about inequaliy; would most likley keep 70 million pouds if they won it through the lottery rather than giving it to charity. Inherent greed is there and i dont dissagree but we are conditioned through money. Do you have a bar to test greed against? Have you tried bringing up children in a world without money? If all is there to share equally and everyone has jobs they want (i am not talking communism) then greed disappears, along with crime which is mainly based on money.
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I can't help feeling that our family wouldn't do that. We would probaly spend a week in disney world, my Dad would quit his day job and work exclusively on his company, and thats it.
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Lewis wrote: "Currency is the root of envy, greed, aggression,and inequality; we'd probably be much better without it, what's your view on the topic? "Not currency, but rather "Ego", the sense of self ... remove that and what would you have? Would then life be better or perhaps not? That balance, that tightrope walk we do between good and evil, that's up to us on which side we'll fall, should we choose to fall at all.
Allegedly, Star Trek is a universe without currency in the Federation. But it's never explained how it works.
But no actually money. Nothing is held in banks to give the credits value.
But, it's a currency. If I'm an ensign, then I get X number of credits, which I can then spend on women and booze. Booze costs a certain amount, and hopefully the women don't have a price tag attached, but you get my point.
It completely destroys mercantilism, which is the base of our economy. As nothing has to exist to back up the money, it is essentially limitless. http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Money
The currency should be something like the "good" and "bad" things we did. Our morals. 0_0EDIT: Okay, forget that... It's hard to judge things that simply. ^^;
