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Absolute Twoddle. When Germany surrendered, the German Media announced to the world that their brave leader had died fighting for the defence of the Fatherland. It was some time after before the suicide story came out. Here's a recreation of the news story. Question is, who made the announcement that he committed suicide.https://www.theguardian.com/world/194...
I found this article while researching for my next book, Avalon Rising.
Here's an article from Time Magazine. There is much confusion over his death.http://time.com/3829048/death-of-hitl...
So what about Hitler's dental records, Jason?How do you explain that?
Not challenging you by the way, as Hitler never fascinated me as much as say Josef Mengele and other senior Nazis, so I know less about him. Very interested in all this and why the FBI, CIA and other Western/Russian intel agencies have so many files pertaining to them at least researching Hitler's whereabouts post WW2. I don't get why that would be.
Also, I think it's maybe (possibly) a bit odd that just now as all the growing evidence or at least speculation was mounting in the mainstream analysis of Hitler's "reported" death, this news of his dental records suddenly surfaces.
Is it tinfoil hat-stuff to speculate how easy it would be to come up with teeth that match? Or else teeth that we don't know where they were found (e.g. they could have been found on Hitler's corpse in South America years or decades after WW2)?
So I dunno and don't really trust anyone whether the conspiracy side or the mainstream media side either...
James wrote: "So I dunno and don't really trust anyone whether the conspiracy side or the mainstream media side either... "Probably a wise policy.
At least, until someone earns credibility.
James wrote: "So what about Hitler's dental records, Jason?How do you explain that?
Not challenging you by the way, as Hitler never fascinated me as much as say Josef Mengele and other senior Nazis, so I know ..."
Anything can be faked these days. The lines have been blurred for both historians and conspiracy theorists.
David wrote: "and the band plays on"As I know deep down this is your favourite (or "favorite" in your English) subject, here is some more info on the conspiracy theory suggesting Adolf may not have died in bunker (and for the record, I'm on the fence and do think something as simple as dental records could easily be fudged, so there's no "case closed" situ here...):
What really happened to Hitler? https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2...
The History Channel's "Hunting Hitler" has been examining the true fate of the most reprehensible mass murderer of the 20th century. Author Peter Levenda has been doing the same thing for years. Levenda joined guest host Ian Punnett on Coast in 2012 for an examination of this very topic, and he joined him once again to revisit the truth behind Hitler's "death," and what really happened to him in the waning days of WWII and after.
Levenda identified issues with the official story about Hitler's suicide in the bunker under his headquarters in Berlin. Tests run by scientist Nick Bellantoni on a skull fragment with a bullet hole supposedly found in the bunker and purported to belong to Hitler show definitively it came from an unknown woman, and not the German leader, Levenda reported. There is no forensic evidence Hitler died in that bunker, he added. So, if Hitler didn't die in the bunker on April 30, 1945, what happened to him?
Levenda has uncovered evidence Hitler and other high-level Nazis survived and escaped Germany to other parts of the world. "I've saw enough... including the passports that really satisfied me once and for all that we are dealing with Nazi war criminals who had escaped the cordon that was setup around them," he said. According to Levenda, Hitler and Eva Braun spent several years in Europe after the war before traveling under assumed identities to Indonesia. Hitler and Eva Braun used the papers of Dr. Georg Anton Poch and his wife to escape to a remote island in Indonesia, he suggested. The cemetery where Dr. Poch is buried is acknowledge locally as the burial place of Hitler, Levenda noted.
Some books by Peter Levenda, the author mentioned above in Coast to Coast link...Ratline: Soviet Spies, Nazi Priests, and the Disappearance of Adolf Hitler
The Hitler Legacy: The Nazi Cult in Diaspora: How It Was Organized, How It Was Funded, and Why It Remains a Threat to Global Security in the Age of Terrorism
Jason wrote: "Anything can be faked these days. The lines have been blurred for both historians and conspiracy theorists. ..."Unfortunately, that's very true.
Maybe that's why Mulder said in the X-Files: Trust No One.
Oh wait...that's fiction! Never mind.
Today in Strangeness: November 16th stands as a key date for a pair of staples in the world of conspiracy theory. On this date in 1914, the Federal Reserve opened its doors as the quasi-national bank in the United States, much to the chagrin of many who saw it as a dangerous consolidation of power. Thirty-one years later, in 1945, Project Paperclip saw the United States "import" 88 German scientists to assist in rocket development. Many in the parapolitical research community point to this dubious event as the start of an infiltration of America by darker forces.
Project Blue Book Episode 4 Review: Operation PaperclipHistory be damned as the Nazi’s invade on Project Blue Book Episode 4. https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/histo...
The Harsh Truths of Operation Paperclip (NASA & Nazi's) w/Annie Jacobsen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MZr5...
Good recommendation. Henry Ford and Lindbergh were both big time Nazi sympathizers. Will put his one on the list. .
Nick Redfern has been writing about a lot of human experimentation undertaken by the US military. This recent article talks about Nazi scientists being a big part of that.https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2020/0...
good article. Operation Paperclip brought into the American intelligence sector some very bad dudes. Recommend read Operation Paperclip book. https://www.npr.org/2014/02/15/275877...
James wrote: "Hey David, That's fairly strong evidence pointing toward the long-time conspiracy theory of extensive Nazi bases or communities in South America post WW2.Pretty scary actually."
Hitler : The 1963 Interview
Elisabet wrote: "Pete wrote: "A partner to Paperclip was the OSS operation Sunrise that rescued high level Nazi intelligence operatives such as Karl Wolff and Reinhard Gehlen along with their spy networks to turn t..."There is evidence that the CIA knew Hitler had survived the war and knew his location in South America.
In the 1950's, during the cold war, They even hatched a bizarre plan to return him to power in Germany if a West German government ever considered doing what France did and demanded that American troops left.
Hitler : The 1963 Interview
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The American Axis: Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and the Rise of the Third Reich (other topics)
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Good discovery, Dave.