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Emperor Nero and the Great Fire of Rome (64 AD) -- One of history's earliest false flags
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wow! well...but he cleared away aristocratic households? were they people who were against him? I knew he ma have tried to blame the Christians....but he was a bit crazy, unstable...wasn't he?
Catherine wrote: "wow! well...but he cleared away aristocratic households? were they people who were against him? I knew he ma have tried to blame the Christians....but he was a bit crazy, unstable...wasn't he?"Yes he was unstable, and no the aristocrats were not the Christians. The Christians at the time were outsiders. So my understanding is Nero attacked the wealthy in Rome (with the fire), but never admitted to and instead blamed the Christians. So the fire was supposedly an act of terror by the Christians. But most historians agree it was Nero's men who lit the fire and the Christians were innocent.
that's what I meant...I didn't think the aristocrats were Christian...just surprised that he would go after the wealthy...unless he thought they were in opposition to him....like any ruler he was bound to be a little paranoid of those who had wealth...
He went after the wealthy as they were the senators who initially didn't want to wage war against Christians.So it's the equivalent of attacking the wealthy bankers in the World Trade Center and then blaming it on terrorists (assuming of course 9/11 was an inside job).
So just like after 9/11 the elites of America were more than happy to wage war against Iraq and Afghanistan, well likewise the elites of Rome suddenly all agreed to attack Christians after the fire.
At least that's my recollection of this historical event!
oh..ok...so he used it as propaganda to get them motivated to his thinking...sounds like any powerful person who wanted to get his way, and had to force the issue.
Catherine wrote: "oh..ok...so he used it as propaganda to get them motivated to his thinking..."Bingo.
as they say "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
well..I do stay away from ladders and things...so I guess I'll stay away from men on stilts too!
The Great Fire of Rome: The Fall of the Emperor Nero and His City
The Emperor Nero: A Guide to the Ancient Sources
If you read Tacitus, you get a different story altogether. First, at the time, Nero was in Antium, so he most definitely did not fiddle and watch the fire. He apparently rushed back to Rome and opened up the imperial grounds to the displaced, and ordered the Praetorians to erect tents wherever and feed the people, much of this at Nero's personal expense.And what happened next? Praise for his actions? Hardly. The senators started the rumour that Nero lit the fire. (Tacitus claims it was probably a cooking fire that got out of control, in an area where fire-fighting was almost impossible and the wooden dwellings were so close together.) So when it became apparent that the Senators had stirred up enough hatred to convince everybody that at least somebody had lit it, Nero picked on the Christians - on the grounds it was believable. Rome had crucified their Cristus, so they were getting their own back on Rome. He knew that was untrue, but so what? His PR was more important than truth and justice. Not a lot changes.
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The Orphan Conspiracies: 29 Conspiracy Theories from The Orphan Trilogy (other topics)The Great Fire of Rome: The Fall of the Emperor Nero and His City (other topics)
The Emperor Nero: A Guide to the Ancient Sources (other topics)
Roman emperor Nero is believed by many historians to be responsible for one of the earliest false flag operations. Those historians claim that Nero was the perpetrator of the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD in which a third of the ancient city was torched.
The emperor’s ulterior motive, they say, was to build Domus Aurea, an enormous building that would include the Colossus of Nero – none other than a massive bronze statue of himself! Before the fire, the Senate had blocked the emperor’s proposal to destroy a third of the city to make way for this complex.
According to Roman historian Tacitus (56 AD – 117 AD), Nero told the Roman population that the Christians, whom Rome was at war with, were responsible for the fire.
While not everyone agrees with Tacitus, no-one disputes that Nero got his way in the end. The impressive Domus Aurea was built in the heart of ancient Rome precisely where the great fire had cleared away the aristocratic dwellings. Naturally, the complex included that statue of himself – the mighty Colossus of Nero.