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{SZ} Power Scaling Of the DH-verse characters, (After Stygian)
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Silencio wrote: "Hello there. I'm rather new to this...'Forum' thing. So if there are any thing that is incorrect in this, then do forgive me. Now then, to the topic at hand: The strongest beings in the DH-verse so..."You know I believe that the primals gods are the strongest since they draw their powers from the source. But honestly I'm really confused by who is stronger and who is weaker. At times is all most like SK is changing the power scale every times she publishes a book. There are time where Acheron is stronger than the Malachai, and times where he is weaker...I don't know...
And regarding Urian's powers, I feel like his powers just like Katra's powers are a little bit over the top, the whole "children of two pantheons are stronger than everyone else" doesn't really rock my boat, because if they are so strong why doesn't Acheron let Katra fight? He even said in one of the books that Katra was super strong so why don't we ever see Katra fight? And why is it that when she fights is only for a little amount of time? Doesn't really make sense to me
My theory is that a child born of two pantheons is a lot stronger than a child born of just one pantheon because if you put two and two together it's stronger than the whole. Or you could say two heads (in this case pantheons) are stronger than one.I think it really has to do with the origin of each pantheon. Like how did the Greek Titans originate in the DH universe? Was Ouranos and Gaea (or whoever is the starting point of the Greek pantheon DH-wise) descended from the Primals or even Tiamat and or Chronus themselves?
Take Nick for example. He has the blood of a large number of the original Primal gods.
1. He has Braith from his Malachai side.
2. Whichever god Kissare was descended from (Ash says in CoN that while Kissare was a sephiroth, he was also a demigod himself).
3. Azura because Daraxerxes/Xevikan is her son and Xev is Nick's great-grandfather.
4. Verlyn because Daraxerxes/Xevikan is his son and Xev as previously stated is Nick's great-grandfather.
5. Rubati might have been descended from a Primal as she mentioned that she was extremely powerful. Possibly Rezar as once Rubati was murdered Bathymaas came to be from her blood and Rezar claimed Bathymaas as his daughter.
6. We don't know who Myone's (Nick's great-grandmother/Jared's mother) parents were. So it's possible that she may indeed be descended from a Primal (most likely one aligned to the light as she is a Sephiroth and was their leader).
So power-scale-wise I would think that the person descended from the most number of Primals would be able kick everyone's asses.
What if all 7 of the Primals' (including Lilith's) bloodlines were to be all combined or at least 6 of them? Nick has at least 3 confirmed Primal bloodlines in him. What's to say that his future son Cyprian has more?
Maybe that's why Cyprian is the Malachai that starts the Apocalypse after all this time. As we know, the goal of each successive Malachai--whether that goal in them is conscious or subconscious is to gain enough power to be able to lay down the world AND the Primals due to Monakribos's curse/promise he put on his bloodline. What better way to accomplish that goal than to combine all 6 (or 7) and thus have a rainbow of their blood in them? To essentially use their own power against them?
During a Q/A on Facebook, SK's staff explained that all gods derive power from the Source (it is literally the Source of all power, hence the name) but that the powers of gods will vary depending on their followers. So the more followers you have, the better. If your followers are gods or demons (and therefore powerful in their own right), than that also adds to your own power (hence why everyone is fighting over the Malachai). Servants of the Source also seem to be able to defeat supremely powerful beings. I think I read that very few creatures could actually kill Chthonians except for other Chthonians, gods or servants of the Source. What being a servant of the Source entails hasn't really been explained yet.
I believe it was once stated that Gods of more than one pantheons is inherently stronger than those with only one, due to the fact that those with more than one can draw power from more than just one pantheon -- hence why gods doesn't want to war among their pantheon since it can weaken them greatly. With Katra's case, I feel like it's half due to Acheron being over-protective toward his daughter, and the fact that in order to syphon powers, she'd have to make direct contact which can be rather dangerous when fighting against enemies that is in the upper echelon of the food chain. However, I do believe that Nick/Ambrose will be one of, if not the heaviest hitter given his development so far. Plus, if everything were to work out and he have children with Nekoda/Nyria, then their children would have at least 5 out of the 6 primals blood within them: Rezar, Azura, Verlyn, Braith, Cam(?)
Silencio wrote: "I believe it was once stated that Gods of more than one pantheons is inherently stronger than those with only one, due to the fact that those with more than one can draw power from more than just o..." That's all true accept that isn't Nikoda a ghost? Not sure how that would work out.
Nekoda is the time-travelling Arel ghost of Ambrose's wife Nyria. Ambrose and Nyria had children together before they were both killed. After her death, the Arelim recruited Nyria and made her into one of their own, and wiped her memories of her life with Ambrose. She became Nekoda. As an Arel, Nekoda/Nyria can't have children because she's technically dead. But she also technically hasn't been born yet. I guess whether or not they have kids depends on how/if her character will come back. It depends on whether she'll exist in the new time sequence and in what form.
P.S. Am I the only one who feel that Urian's powers are rather underwhelming despite his heritage?