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message 1101: by David (last edited Oct 07, 2022 04:57PM) (new)

David | 3885 comments Paul wrote: "Cpngrarulations!!"

Those tequila slammers can be fierce :)


message 1102: by Lee (new)

Lee (technosquid) | 273 comments Lovely news! And lovely name!


message 1103: by Cindy (new)

Cindy Haiken | 1930 comments Wonderful news!!!!


message 1104: by LindaJ^ (new)

LindaJ^ (lindajs) | 1131 comments Grandmothers -- saviors and spoilers of grandchildren! Congratulations Wendy! I'm going traditional and toasting with bubbles, although cava rather than champagne! Penelope offers great possibilities for nicknames -- Pen, Penny, Lope, and probably others.


message 1105: by Debra (new)

Debra (debrapatek) | 539 comments How exciting, Wendy! Congratulations!


message 1106: by WndyJW (new)

WndyJW Thank you everyone!


message 1107: by Henk (new)

Henk | 229 comments Congratulations! 🎉


message 1108: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne WndyJW wrote: "If this was a real pub and not a virtual pub I would be buying a round of shots for everyone to celebrate the news of my youngest son and his partner being pregnant. I am over the moon."

Congratulations Wendy, that's lovely 😁


message 1109: by Sonia (new)

Sonia Johnson | 94 comments Congratulations Wendy what joyful news.


Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer | 10250 comments That’s great news


message 1111: by Marc (new)

Marc (monkeelino) | 507 comments Congrats and thanks for sharing the happy news!


message 1112: by Jen (new)

Jen | 177 comments Fantastic news Wendy, I’m thrilled for you all


message 1113: by Stephen (new)

Stephen | 241 comments Congratulations Wendy


message 1114: by WndyJW (new)

WndyJW Thank you!


message 1115: by Hugh, Active moderator (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 4445 comments Mod
Yet another top 100 books list. I am only on 38...

https://www.penguin.co.uk/articles/20...


message 1116: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 677 comments 70 for me, but I grew up obsessed with Penguin Classics.


message 1117: by Robert (new)

Robert | 2667 comments 44


message 1118: by WndyJW (new)

WndyJW I love lists. 24 that I am positive I read and 2 or 3 more I think I did, but wouldn’t claim them as I’m not sure.


message 1119: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne 77 but I read a number of them at school/uni.


message 1120: by David (new)

David | 3885 comments Only 27 for me and tbh I’m surprised it’s that high.


message 1121: by LindaJ^ (new)

LindaJ^ (lindajs) | 1131 comments 51 for me


message 1122: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 1067 comments Alwynne and RC you guys are machines. 54 for me. I'm counting Moby-Dick which I'm reading now, but not the book I'll be reading with book club later this month.


message 1123: by David (new)

David | 3885 comments What are your thoughts on Moby-Dick, Emily?


message 1124: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 1067 comments Someone described it as "transcendental boredom but good for you." It's sort of like that. But with some genuinely great scenes here and there.


message 1125: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 677 comments I was amazed that I loved Moby Dick as much as I did - 5-stars after assuming for years that it wouldn't be for me.


message 1126: by David (new)

David | 3885 comments I adore Moby-Dick. But I also understand people who don’t.


message 1127: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 1067 comments To be clear, I'm also really enjoying it (looking up, that's probably not clear from what I said). :-D I'm only a third in though!


message 1128: by Robert (new)

Robert | 2667 comments I think it’s one of the greatest novels ever - ahead of it’s time


message 1129: by Blaine (new)

Blaine | 21 comments 53, not counting film adaptations.

Loved the first several chapters of Moby Dick and would have been happy to miss the lessons on whale anatomy. Afterwards there were a few wonderful sections but for me it rarely reached the sustained heights of the portion from the beginning through Ahab’s appearance.


message 1130: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne Emily wrote: "Someone described it as "transcendental boredom but good for you." It's sort of like that. But with some genuinely great scenes here and there."

Sounds very similar to my own response, didn't help that I was rooting for the whale.


message 1131: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen | 156 comments 54

Like Wendy, I’m sure I read a few more, but only counted definite ones. I used to love the orange spines of the Penguin classics. The Dartmouth bookstore, decades ago, used to shelve them together.

I remember buying, and reading, the Penguin Classics of War and Peace which was in two volumes.

The The Secret History keeps showing up on these lists. I disliked that book.


message 1132: by Blaine (new)

Blaine | 21 comments Also not a Tartt fan and somewhat mystified by her following.


message 1133: by Hugh, Active moderator (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 4445 comments Mod
Some entertaining comments in the Twitter responses - I was not the only one to single out Ayn Rand as an "I will never read", and the list was chosen by a public vote, which accounts for its lack of consistency and some of its "why is that a classic" choices. Also some supporters of Secret History, which I quite enjoyed at the time but would probably dislike more if I reread it.


message 1134: by Hugh, Active moderator (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 4445 comments Mod
As for Moby-Dick, it is what it is - some parts are great, others tedious but still well worth the effort overall.


Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer | 10250 comments I think about 40 on the “definite” method

I recall quite enjoying Secret History but it seems very oddly out of place on this list - as do most of the few relatively recent books.

Go Between is a favourite of mine although more for the film as it’s filmed in locations I know very well


message 1136: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne I've read the Ayn Rand, she's not bad as a commercial writer but the ideas are just daft, weird to think she's now being touted as a philosopher in various circles.


message 1137: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 677 comments Me too, if only to see how crazy her ideas are.


message 1138: by Paul (new)

Paul Fulcher (fulcherkim) | 13535 comments I strolled down the list and noted the usual issues with lists of this type. Apparently the vast majority of great novels were written in English, apart from mainly the 19th century Russians who appear more than once. Who knew?


message 1139: by Debra (new)

Debra (debrapatek) | 539 comments 34 for me, plus a number of partial reads


message 1140: by Debra (new)

Debra (debrapatek) | 539 comments It would be fun to come up with our own M&G top 100 classics.


message 1141: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 331 comments 67 definites

I liked Moby Dick at the time I read it, but not sure I'd enjoy it as much now. I could have done without the details of the whaling industry.

I've read Ayn Rand when I was young, before I realized her ideas were a bit "out there."

I liked The Secret History but didn't love it. Donna Tartt is hit or miss with me.


message 1142: by Hugh, Active moderator (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 4445 comments Mod
Now there's an idea Debra. Not sure how we would structure it but we could do something like the end of year polls, but allowing more nominations per person - maybe different people could focus on different periods or countries, but in the end we would need some sort of voting process...


message 1143: by Cindy (new)

Cindy Haiken | 1930 comments 64 for me. I quite like this list, it's surprisingly broad and a bit eclectic. It made me want to take on some of the ones I've missed. For the record, I am a fan of Moby Dick and of The Secret History (although less so of Tartt's other novels).

I like Debra's idea too. It would be contentious to be sure!


message 1144: by David (last edited Oct 12, 2022 06:17PM) (new)

David | 3885 comments I second (or third) the idea of a M&G classics list. That's a fantastic idea.


message 1145: by WndyJW (last edited Oct 12, 2022 05:28PM) (new)

WndyJW I just saw that I did read Atlas Shrugged. My review said she could have saved herself the bother of writing a novel and just wrote an essay. I see too that I was insensitive about her depression and suicidal thoughts.

So I guess 25 for certain. I’m impressed by everyone who read 60 or more!

I like the idea of a M&G top 100, it would be more diverse than this list.


message 1146: by Robert (new)

Robert | 2667 comments I think Debra’s idea is great. I have to admit that I’m a bit tired of seeing the usual suspects in these lists and I’m sure we’d do something fresh, I mean how come Barbara Comyns or Sylvia Townsend Warner never show up on classics lists when their work is equally monumental?


message 1147: by Tracy (new)

Tracy (tstan) | 599 comments 91 of the list for me. Even though I love a lot of the books on the list, I’d really love to see newer options.

Maybe we should have lists be broken down by book length, or by indie presses, just to be different.

And I know I read Atlas Shrugged. That’s sooooo many hours of my life I’ll never get back.


message 1148: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne Robert wrote: "I think Debra’s idea is great. I have to admit that I’m a bit tired of seeing the usual suspects in these lists and I’m sure we’d do something fresh, I mean how come Barbara Comyns or Sylvia Townse..."

I know, think that's why I've read so many, a lot were on reading lists for standard texts to have read. And others crop up all the time on classic book lists.


message 1149: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne Unrelated but how come GR has reverted to old-style book pages? I prefer them as noticed with new ones can't tell if I've already 'liked' a review or not, and also can't work out how to get it to show the actual review so I can check. As I tend to 'like' friends' reviews when I post a review of the same book been finding that a pain as have to go to each individual profile to see their original review!

Have they given up on the new design?


message 1150: by WndyJW (new)

WndyJW No Comyns, Townsend Warner, Hilary Mantel, Alice Walker. Was Ishiguro on the list? Why 3 Austens, but no Vasily Grossman? These lists are just for fun, of course.


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