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message 51: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Sandra wrote: "Well done Debra!"

Thank you Sandra.
Now to tell you something I find interesting.
There are books that have been on my shelf since March of this year that needed a page count.
12 of them suddenly have pages counts.
Of the 12 only only 3 are mobi ebooks. The rest are Amazon.
I hadn't listed any of them on here yet.
I don't know if one of y'all did this, or Amazon somehow did it, or if the authors suddenly felt the urge to do it.
But, I have a feeling it is connected with this thread.
Either way, Awesome!


message 52: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Back to listing editions. Work, work, work,

This one is listed on Amazon as 64 pages with a different cover. In fact, the kindle edition is not even listed as an option on the book page.

Dominus: God of Yule by J. Rose Allister

Here are the amazon details;
File Size: 1437 KB
Print Length: 64 pages
Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited
Publication Date: November 27, 2015
Sold by: Amazon Digital Services LLC
Language: English
ASIN: B017MGIV3M

My copy is the Kindle edition. So if that edition could be listed that would be awesome.


message 53: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments This one is an ebook only. Not on Amazon. Only available through the author.

Eradimus: God of Imbolc by J. Rose Allister


message 54: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Not on amazon.

Bodyguard by Rye Hart

Her author's page on amazon has disappeared. Well, it's there, but blank.
Wonder what is up with that. That's the 2nd author I have run into that way.


message 55: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Not on amazon. Has two different title names in editions.

Hard to Forget by Rebecca Janet


message 56: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments This one is most likely going to be contact author. But, for the sake of my records, etc. I'm going to list it in all its partners.

savage alpha box set by Sadie Savage (ebook consisting of 3 books)

Billionaire Bait by Sadie Savage (ebook, one of the 3 above)

Navy Seal Daddy by Sadie Savage (ebook, one of the 3 above) Has page count, but not a proper edition choice.

3rd book not listed on GR at all.
It's titled
'Daddy Outlaw' by Sadie Savage

None of the above is on Amazon.


message 57: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments This one is an ebook.

Love Bytes by Cori Vidae

Here is the info on the edition page;
Published March 9th 2018 by Pen and Kink Publishing
ebook
Author(s): Cori Vidae (Goodreads Author)
ISBN13: 9781988233406
Edition language: English
Average rating: 3.50 (2 ratings)


message 58: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Another ebook.

Hard Cut Hitman by Niya James


message 59: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments This one has 2 problems. I got it from Amazon but there is no kindle edition listed and no page count.

Taboo by Ditter Kellen


message 60: by Debra (last edited Aug 20, 2018 11:55AM) (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Debra wrote: "This one is most likely going to be contact author. But, for the sake of my records, etc. I'm going to list it in all its partners.

Thank you for your work on;

savage alpha box set by Sadie Savage by Sadie Savage

It now has the page count of 56.
I wish this author would work on her authors page. Like adding a website or ask question section. Maybe she will see this and add more info! That would be awesome. Would like to know more about her.


message 61: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments This one is really messed up. The book I purchased from Amazon is actually;

Crescent Vendetta and the author should be Desiree L. Scott but it appears to be on a defunct page with her listed as Desiree L Scott

This edition is not listed on her proper author's page. The kindle edition listed on what appears to be her real author's page is
Crescent Vendetta

It is the wrong cover with an incorrect page count. This is the edition I have listed on my shelf as 'Want to Read', but it is not the one I purchased from Amazon.


message 63: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments #61 moved to correct profile and combined with other editions

cover and page count for this edition are the same as on Amazon: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...


message 64: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Okay, y'all know I get a bit insecure. I was wondering if someone could just give a quick response of any kind to let me know I'm not alone in this cave.

👂


message 65: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments Debra,
we do not have any more information than you have on the page counts for ebook editions.

Librarian Manual states:
Most ebook formats do not have a fixed number of pages since the pagination adjusts for screen size. If the publisher provides a specific page count, that number should be reflected in our book data. (...)
If the publisher does not provide a page number, you may estimate the page count using a tool such as Calibre's Count Pages plugin.


If you have an access to this or similar tool to calculate the page count on the ebooks you have we could add them with a librarian note that this is an estimate .

Sorry we cannot be more helpful here.


message 66: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Olivia wrote: "Debra,
we do not have any more information than you have on the page counts for ebook editions.

Librarian Manual states:
Most ebook formats do not have a fixed number of pages since the pagination..."


Thank you Olivia.
How does one go about getting a tool like that?


message 67: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Olivia wrote: "Debra,
we do not have any more information than you have on the page counts for ebook editions.

Librarian Manual states:
Most ebook formats do not have a fixed number of pages since the pagination..."


I am looking into this Calibre's Count Pages plugin. It looks a little confusing to me but that is probably because it is totally new to me. I'm just not sure how it works with my kindle for pc app, etc. But I love the idea!

Here is a question I need answered.
I am always working on bettering my shelves for my own use. I clicked on the 'Amazon book purchases' under 'Add books' on my shelf. I didn't think anything was going to come up, but I was surprised numerous books showed up needing to be added to my shelf. That's how I found the oddity with #61 Crescent Vendetta. This means these books are listed on my shelf some how, but apparently not the way Amazon recognizes them as such.
So, the question is 'Should I start a different thread for these books? I have no idea what I am going to run into as I try to get them properly added to my shelf.


message 68: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments The page count doesn't match what is on Amazon. The page count on the edition listed on GR says 147 pages, Amazon says 366.

Burn Dragon Burn by Julia Mills

On Amazon it says;
File Size: 4063 KB
Print Length: 366 pages
Page Numbers Source ISBN: 1718103204
Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited
Publication Date: July 1, 2018
Sold by: Amazon Digital Services LLC
Language: English
ASIN: B07F6TN4FG


message 69: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Next is
Rune Serial Box Set by Amelia Wilson and J.A. Cummings

There is no page count on the edition listed here.
Amazon has this info;

File Size: 1839 KB
Print Length: 732 pages
Simultaneous Device Usage: Unlimited
Publication Date: July 8, 2017
Sold by: Amazon Digital Services LLC
Language: English
ASIN: B073TNMDG7


message 70: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments On this one the page count for the kindle edition on GR does not match Amazon.

Coven by Rebecca Main

GR says 209 pgs, Amazon says 264 pgs.


message 71: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31525 comments #68 - #70 done.

Kindle quite often change page numbers, so all we need then is what you posted in #70 rather than all the other details, and that goes for a new page number as well ~ for amazon listed books.


message 72: by Melanie (new)

Melanie (mvalente89) | 2198 comments Also a note about Kindle page counts, the cover on Goodreads needs to match the cover on Amazon in order to use the page count. Otherwise an ACE needs to be added as it's considered a different edition.


message 73: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31525 comments Yep, should of added that, thanks Melanie :)


message 74: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Sandra wrote: "#68 - #70 done.

Kindle quite often change page numbers, so all we need then is what you posted in #70 rather than all the other details, and that goes for a new page number as well ~ for amazon li..."


Cool. I will keep that in mind. It will make it easier.


message 75: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Melanie wrote: "Also a note about Kindle page counts, the cover on Goodreads needs to match the cover on Amazon in order to use the page count. Otherwise an ACE needs to be added as it's considered a different edi..."

What is an ACE?

I try to match up what I purchase on Amazon with the edition listed on GR by cover, etc. but often I have problems with that even on my 'Manage Contents' and the 'Add Amazon Purchases'.
It amazes me how often they don't match anything at all. You would think the authors or their publishers would keep their pages better maintained. Same for the ebooks from Instafreebie & Bookfunnel.


message 76: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31525 comments ACE is an abbreviation of Alternative Cover Edition.


message 77: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Sandra wrote: "ACE is an abbreviation of Alternative Cover Edition."

Ahhh, okay. That makes perfect sense. God I am dense sometimes.


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Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments This one is driving me nuts! I'm reading it now and I bought it from Amazon.

The Invitation by Roxy Sloane

The problems I'm having are;
#The cover is different.
#The page count is different.

Here is the product link on Amazon with the cover I have on my kindle. It's definitely the same book. I know part of the problem is the way it's listed on Amazon as book 3.

I am SOOOOO confused!


message 79: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31525 comments Once a book has changed its cover its considered a new edition. With kindle books, we can't change page numbers on the old covers once its been given a new cover ~ its effectively a new book, even though the inside may be the same.

We need to add the new edition to GR. I'll do so shortly, if another librarian doesn't get to it.

https://www.amazon.com/Invitation-Sed...


message 80: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Sandra wrote: "Once a book has changed its cover its considered a new edition. With kindle books, we can't change page numbers on the old covers once its been given a new cover ~ its effectively a new book, even ..."

I checked the table of contents and ran through the book to see what all it has in it. It definitely contains both the prequel The Invitation & book 2 Surrender.
The end of the book tells me to continue the story with book 4 Release (which is actually book 3).
Why do authors do this? (That question is rhetorical, lol).


message 81: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Debra wrote: "Sandra wrote: "Once a book has changed its cover its considered a new edition. With kindle books, we can't change page numbers on the old covers once its been given a new cover ~ its effectively a ..."


As you can see, this edition is a mess. The book is pretty dang good, but Amazon & the author have created a bit of a conundrum.


message 82: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Sandra wrote: "Once a book has changed its cover its considered a new edition. With kindle books, we can't change page numbers on the old covers once its been given a new cover ~ its effectively a new book, even ..."

I went to the author's page and used the 'Ask Question' to bring this to her attention. Hopefully she will reply.


message 83: by Debra (last edited Aug 29, 2018 09:54AM) (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments Next on my list,

Trust Fund by Skye Warren

And thank you to all the Librarians who help us on GR everyday.
You answer our unintelligent questions.
Put up with attitude and insecurities.
Research books and many different ways.
And all for the love of the written word and this site.
I just want you to know You Are Appreciated!


message 84: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31525 comments Debra wrote: "Sandra wrote: "Once a book has changed its cover its considered a new edition. With kindle books, we can't change page numbers on the old covers once its been given a new cover ~ its effectively a ..."

I certainly hope so Debra. Not sure what to do with this mess. I can add a new edition, but what is happening with the numbering?


message 85: by Debra (new)

Debra Johnson (debraptj) | 66 comments "Sandra wrote: " ..I certainly hope so Debra. Not sure what to do with this mess. I can add a new edition, but what is happening with the numbering?"

The author needs to list it as a separate book entirely in the series as an omnibus with the correct page count.
I finished reading it and marked book 1 & 2 as Read so I can review them properly. Amazon and the back of this book have book 3 marked as book4.
This really needs the attention of the author.


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