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THE PRICE OF A FREE MEDIA > Should we be concerned about internet censorship? (1st Case Study: Alex Jones/Infowars... 2nd Case Study: Vaccine Critics... 3rd Case Study: Julian Assange/WikiLeaks... 4th Case Study: David Icke... 5th Case Study: Donald Trump)

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message 101: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments ROSE / ICKE IV LONDON REAL 14/06/2020 https://www.bitchute.com/video/opPWNh...

ROSE / ICKE IV London Real 14/06/2020

David Icke Reveals the Truth
A small handful of social media monopolies control everything that we say and that we see.
Over the last 2 months we have seen a disproportionate amount of censorship and have interviewed countless people who have also been shut down by these trillion dollar behemoths.
We believe you should have sovereignty over your mind & body.


message 102: by Lance, Group Founder (new)

Lance Morcan | 3058 comments Google bans website ZeroHedge from its ad platform over comments on protest articles https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-new...
A Google spokesperson said in an email that it took action after determining the website violated its policies on content related to race.


message 103: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments David Icke on London Real today at 5pm UK time TODAY – what’s REALLY going on https://davidicke.com/2020/08/02/tomo...


message 104: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments "Warning: this link may be unsafe https://www.bitchute.com/video//
The link you are trying to access has been identified by Twitter or our partners as being potentially spammy or unsafe, in accordance with Twitter’s URL Policy. This link could fall into any of the below categories:
malicious links that could steal personal information or harm electronic devices
spammy links that mislead people or disrupt their experience
violent or misleading content that could lead to real-world harm
certain categories of content that, if posted directly on Twitter, are a violation of the Twitter Rules"

So Bitchute has been a valid alternative to YouTube censorship for over a year now. But unfortunately, now when you try to click thru from social media outlets like Twitter, you get misleading warnings like this (above) - which will scare off many as it appears to be saying you'll get a virus if you click on the link (and which is pure horseshit)

And who gets to decide what is "violent or misleading content that could lead to real-world harm" -- Yes, I am aware some neo-Nazis use Bitchute, but the vast majority of videos are harmless on this site...Besides, early on before YouTube started censoring videos so much, they used to have fascists and KKK members uploading videos...


message 105: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments TunnelBear : reveals nearly half of internet users believe they face online censorship https://www.marketscreener.com/news/l...


message 106: by Debby (new)

Debby Kean | 165 comments James Morcan, I am on Twitter, & for months, they have been doing what's called "reply deboosting" to me. (Hiding replies I make from everyone except my followers). Someone on the right, a follower, suggested I check the lists I am on. I had been put on lists of far right fundies (I am not any of those things) & Trump lovers (I am a Brit in New Zealand and far more interested in the evils of Macron). Twitter apparently ban anyone (or reply deboost) anyone on these lists.


message 107: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Debby wrote: "James Morcan, I am on Twitter, & for months, they have been doing what's called "reply deboosting" to me. (Hiding replies I make from everyone except my followers). Someone on the right, a follower..."

Interesting to hear how it works, Debby.
I believe that's called Shadow Banning.


message 108: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Censoring US Presidents...Hmm...

Twitter flags Trump's false claim about his Covid-19 immunity. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/11/te...


message 109: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Alex returns...

Joe Rogan Experience #1555 - Alex Jones & Tim Dillon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdVso...


message 110: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Sign of the times when Big Tech companies decide what's appropriate medical information and what isn't...

Twitter shuts down David Icke’s account over coronavirus misinformation https://uk.news.yahoo.com/twitter-shu...


message 111: by Ramzi (new)

Ramzi Najjar (ramzinajjar) | 10 comments James wrote: "Sign of the times when Big Tech companies decide what's appropriate medical information and what isn't...

Twitter shuts down David Icke’s account over coronavirus misinformation https://uk.news.ya..."


David Icke was also banned earlier on youtube, vimeo and facebook


message 112: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Ramzi wrote: "David Icke was also banned earlier on youtube, vimeo and facebook..."

Yes he was and we covered that earlier in this thread when it happened. And it's scary how co-ordinated and political these Big Tech companies are, in my opinion. For example, Alex Jones effectively got "digitally erased" on one Monday morning - turned out later that the heads of Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram all met and discussed "the Alex Jones situation" the night before (sunday night). And yet they are all competitors to each other supposedly...Yet, united politically and perhaps in other ways too...


message 113: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments One doesn't need to agree with everything controversial figures like Icke or Jones say (I don't) to try to defend their freedom of speech. For eventually, we will realize their freedom of speech is OUR freedom of speech.


message 114: by Ramzi (new)

Ramzi Najjar (ramzinajjar) | 10 comments James wrote: "One doesn't need to agree with everything controversial figures like Icke or Jones say (I don't) to try to defend their freedom of speech. For eventually, we will realize their freedom of speech is..."

I totally agree..


message 115: by Mike (new)

Mike McCormick | 4 comments My books are littered with the names of White House reporters who are in the bag for the Dems, accompanied by actual examples. Thus, you will never see me discussing my books on CNN, NBC, or ABC shows. I will never be on a NYT or WP bestseller list. I don’t bother with Twitter, but FB has yet to seriously (that I can tell) stifle my reach. I find Parler inadequate, simply because it’s clumsy for posting photos, etc. LinkedIn has been a huge help, especially when I can see that Chinese lawyers from Shanghai are poking into my profile.

But I have paid for not one bit of advertising, and the word about my Joe Biden book is getting out — well, trickling, actually. I may yet make it into a brick and mortar bookstore.

Local show talk radio has been my biggest promotional platform. And opportunities there vary from host to host. I got a break with a one-day viral opportunity in September based on a Washington Free Beacon article (lined up via LinkedIn,) then websites worldwide, and interviews on Ingraham and Newsmax. Google and Amazon have both been helpful ever since, mostly because from then on Amazon put an ad on Google and people are clicking and buying my books. Win-Win-miniwin. I could definitely do more with YouTube, but I know direct engagement through live radio and TV is still the best place for my efforts.


I’m hoping to get back on television when they need to backfill the Joe Biden was actually a corrupt politician story. We’ll see if the fact that the FBI has a boatload of my info on Joe (delivered via their Tip Line on November 1st) will help with media.

So, yes, despite social media censorship, there are pathways through the barriers. Donald Trump is the example I follow. His promotional strategies, courage, and determination to impart his will are second to none. But he’s also right in what he says and tweets. And that’s the key to it all.

An enduring trickle of truth, like mine, is more powerful than any media conglomerate because a trickle of truth will meet up with another trickle of truth and in time become a flow (like yours,) and if necessary, a flood.

Silicon Valley is only a barrier if we let them be (he says as posts on a SV platform). Thanks, James, for being an enduring flow of truth.


message 116: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Icke nails the freedom of speech issues our society is facing. This summarizes our zeitgeist right now in my opinion...

Its Happening Again And You Have No Idea About This | David Icke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z32Ml...


message 117: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Big tech is 'coming after free speech' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFMyr...


message 118: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments “When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” -George R.R. Martin


message 119: by James, Group Founder (last edited Oct 28, 2022 06:44AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Are the likes of Trump and Alex Jones about to have their Twitter accounts reinstated by Musk?


Musk cleans house on day one https://vaughncordle.substack.com/p/m...

Elon Musk cleans house on day one. The anti-free speech [woke progressives] Twitter executives have left the building. They will not be returning.

Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal, Chief Financial Officer Ned Segal, top legal and policy executive, Vijaya Gadde, and General Counsel Sean Edgett have been terminated.

Goodbye and good riddance from a former shareholder and [censored] Twitter member.

Censorship is restrictive to individual choice and freedom, it’s authoritarian.

“The primary victims of censorship are the audience who were deprived of equal access to information. Not to have equal access to information is an inferior socioeconomic status imposed by the censorship practitioners.”— Ruby Kamm, CPA

Twitter CEO, CFO, Policy Executive, and General Counsel have been terminated.

Elon Musk urged to unban several exiled Twitter accounts after takeover https://www.news.com.au/technology/on...
Elon Musk will reportedly now reinstate some of the internet’s most polarising figures — including a certain former US President.

Twitter braces for Donald Trump’s return as Elon Musk takes over platform https://www.theguardian.com/technolog...


message 120: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Michael Salla
Independent Author, Founder Exopolitics Institute
5h • 5 hours ago

"Elon Musk takes control of Twitter & fires top execs behind censorship. Musk wants to help humanity. Happening just before the 2022 mid-terms - major White Hat move allowing truth to come out on many issues including UFOs & ET life - Musk has been briefed."


message 121: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Hartono James wrote: "Are the likes of Trump and Alex Jones about to have their Twitter accounts reinstated by Musk?."

It doesn't look good, James. Political violence has almost tripled since Trump became president in 2017.


message 122: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments THIS Is Why Musk’s Twitter Takeover Matters - Tulsi Gabbard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyT3Z...


message 123: by Carmen (last edited Oct 31, 2022 12:22PM) (new)

Carmen Hartono James wrote: "THIS Is Why Musk’s Twitter Takeover Matters - Tulsi Gabbard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyT3Z..."

Tulsi Gabbard?!!?!?? Well, James, I suppose in the field of looneys, Gabbard is not so bad. At least she is not advocating for violence, so she is okay by me.


message 124: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Censorship is the real threat to Twitter, not Elon Musk https://www.afr.com/technology/censor...


message 125: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Hartono James wrote: "Censorship is the real threat to Twitter, not Elon Musk https://www.afr.com/technology/censor..."

Elon Musk just bought Twitter, fired 75% of its staff and all of its board.

So yes, Musk is the main threat to Twitter. Musk hopes to make Twitter his own personal mouth piece.


message 126: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Elon Musk has exposed the Woke Left as a bunch of 'illiberal crybabies' who despise free speech
  https://www-extremelyamerican-com.cdn...


message 127: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Hartono James wrote: "Elon Musk has exposed the Woke Left as a bunch of 'illiberal crybabies' who despise free speech"

Elon Musk just paid $44 billion for Twitter, James. It's going to take a lot more than exposing crybabies to make good on that kind of money.


message 128: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Hahaha, this is brilliant!

Joe Biden’s lies fact-checked by Elon Musk’s Twitter
October 31, 2022 - 12:21PM
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news...


message 129: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Hartono James wrote: "Joe Biden’s lies fact-checked by Elon Musk’s Twitter October 31, 2022 - 12:21PM
https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news...-..."


Yes, James, now that Twitter is privately owned by Musk, he's going to need people like you advertise for him so he can make a profit.


message 130: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Yesssss! Give the Radical Leftists a taste of their own medicine!

Twitter keeps fact-checking Biden's tweets https://conventionofstates.com/news/t...

"Since Elon Musk took ownership of Twitter last week, posts made by President Joe Biden have been fact-checked several times, something the left is not accustomed to because of biased treatment."

Before, leftists saw censorship and fact-checking as positive retaliation against Trump and his supporters. Now that one of their own is feeling the burdensome effects, will they continue to support the efforts to moderate speech online?

Last Friday, Biden tweeted about the Inflation Reduction Act, to which Twitter added more context regarding his claims, as seen on the right.

In another post seen below, Biden claims that insulin costs are capped at $35 a month thanks to the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act. The fact-checkers, however, clarify that the cap is only for individuals on Medicare, not for those who hold private insurance.

In one more example post circulating the internet, Biden asserts, "We lost over 180,000 manufacturing jobs under the last guy. We've created 700,000 manufacturing jobs on my watch."

Viewers shared the added context explanation seen online, which says the tweet is "conflating regaining lost jobs with creation of new jobs that never existed before."

The White House's attempts to mislead have been met with inconvenient clarification.

For years Republicans have advocated for changes to Section 230, but their efforts have been overlooked. Now that leftists may be in for a taste of their own medicine on Twitter, progress on the front of free speech online may become a priority.


message 131: by Scott (new)

Scott I wonder how many businesses had to shut down under Biden.


message 132: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Hartono Scott wrote: "I wonder how many businesses had to shut down under Biden."

Under Trump's leadership, Scott, thousands of business had to shut down because of how he mishandled the pandemic. But now, under Biden the US is getting back to normal and unemployment is at a record low.


message 133: by Scott (new)

Scott No, businesses shut down because state and local governments forced them to close for months and re-open only with restrictions. Don't know what U.S. you are living in but there are no signs of getting back to normal here.


message 134: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Hartono Scott wrote: "No, businesses shut down because state and local governments forced them to close for months and re-open only with restrictions. Don't know what U.S. you are living in but there are no signs of get..."

Sorry to hear about your part of the US, Scott.
I live in a strong Democratic city and state, so we knew better than to listen to the Trumpards and his Republican cohorts. It wasn't easy from 2017-2021. But we're doing okay now.


message 135: by Scott (new)

Scott Unfortunately I live in a democratic state as well, with a governor who is hardcore into restrictions and mandates. If anything has been moving back towards normal, it's because the people are sick of his shit, not anything mindless Joe has done.


message 136: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Hartono Scott wrote: "Unfortunately I live in a democratic state as well, with a governor who is hardcore into restrictions and mandates. If anything has been moving back towards normal, it's because the people are sick..."

The only healthcare restrictions some states have now, Scott, are against abortion. And those restrictions are being promoted by Republicans.


message 137: by James, Group Founder (new)

James Morcan | 11380 comments Musk Was Right: Bombshell Leak Reveals Fired Twitter Exec Met with Biden Admin to Discuss Censorship Plans https://www.westernjournal.com/musk-r...


message 138: by Beth (last edited Nov 06, 2022 12:53PM) (new)

Beth (pix1) | 378 comments James wrote: "Musk Was Right: Bombshell Leak Reveals Fired Twitter Exec Met with Biden Admin to Discuss Censorship Plans https://www.westernjournal.com/musk-r......"

What an a$$h@le that Exec is (he/she got fired for some reason), happy enough to take any money he/she can get then sticks the knife in the back of Musk. At least the guy wants free speech which is more thank be said for Biden & co they have far too much to hide!


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