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message 51: by C.P. (last edited Sep 17, 2018 05:57PM) (new)

C.P. Lesley (cplesley) | 585 comments The Moon in the Palace and The Empress of Bright Moon, by Weina Dai Randel. I've always been fascinated by ancient China (so much history!), and I'd heard of Empress Wu, but this two-part series really opened up the society for me.


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Linda Bridges (lindajoyb) | 847 comments I agree with Ride the Wind by Lucia St. Clair Robson for the story of Quanah Parkers mother, Cynthia Ann. I also recommend Walk In My Soul by the same author for the story of the Cherokee, the Trail of Tears, &young Sam Houston.


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Sydney (slknutsen) Thank you, Nancy, for this remarkable insight into your family history. I really loved reading it.

Here is a book that gave me deeper insight into the Spanish flu pandemic of the 19-teens, by Susan Meissner. I had only a passing knowledge of this time in history. My eyes were opened. You are admitted into the lives of the members of the Bright family who moves to Philadelphia in 1918 just in time for this virulent pandemic. Also, it brings in the effects of WWI on the family, so there were two horrid world-wide impacts occurring at the same time. See my review for more details. No spoilers there.


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Katz Nancy from NJ (nancyk18) Sydney - thank you for writing to me.

I am looking forward to reading Susan Meissner’s new book, As Bright as Heaven. It was my lucky day when I chanced upon her book, the Fall of Marigolds, which was one of my top ten books that year. I have read several of her other titles and really enjoyed them.


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Courtney | 1 comments For me, there were two:

The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson

and

New York: The Novel by Edward Rutherfurd

These two books also happen to be two of the best books I have ever read....and I am picky. Both were extremely well-written, engaging, and historically accurate. This is also the kind of history you are not likely to have learned in school. The first book is the story of the Great Migration, and tracks a few different families from different regions of the country. It is the story of black families moving north and finding new lives and new struggles and new relationships.

The second book is the story of the founding of New York City. It is fascinating. As a native New Yorker, I learned so much that they never even broached in school!!


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Abigail Bok (regency_reader) | 781 comments Those sound like interesting books, Courtney! I'll put them on my list. Thanks for recommending them.


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ROBERT | 35 comments Courtney wrote: "For me, there were two:

The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson

andRusska: The Novel of Russia

New York: The Novel by Edward Rutherfurd

These two books also happen to be two of the best books I have ever read....and..."


New York by Rutherford was very good. If you liked New York you might like his other books as well like Sarum: The Novel of England, Russka: The Novel of Russia and London.


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Sydney (slknutsen) Nancy from NJ wrote: "Sydney - thank you for writing to me.

I am looking forward to reading Susan Meissner’s new book, As Bright as Heaven. It was my lucky day when I chanced upon her book, the Fall of Marigolds, which..."


Good to hear. I'm certainly adding Susan Meissner to my reading list. Thanks for the feedback.


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Kim | 2 comments There are too many to name but a recent one I read was the House By the Lake, one house, five families and a Hundred Years of German History by Thomas Harding. The House by the Lake: A Story of Germany


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Kim | 2 comments Linda wrote: "I agree with Ride the Wind by Lucia St. Clair Robson for the story of Quanah Parkers mother, Cynthia Ann. I also recommend Walk In My Soul by the same author for the story of the Cherokee, the Trai..." Ride the Wind is one of my favorites too. I've read it twice. :)


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Kelly B (kellybey) Jayme(the ghost reader) wrote: "I didn't know that Hitler took over France so that was a new fact for me. It was so tragic to learn her brother was still in the cabinet. :("

I wonder if you should maybe put this in spoilers, in case anyone who hasn't read the book reads this thread?


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Barbara Crane | 33 comments Courtney wrote: "For me, there were two:

The Warmth of Other Suns by Isabel Wilkerson

and

New York: The Novel by Edward Rutherfurd

These two books also happen to be two of the best books I have ever read....and..."

I've been wanting to read "The Warmth of Other Suns" forever, it seems like. It will now be the next book I read. Thanks!


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Patty Mccormick | 8 comments Kristy Cambron is a great writer. I really enjoyed The Hidden Masterpiece Collection: The Butterfly and the Violin, A Sparrow in Terezin|25561613]. These are dual stories. There is a story in the present and the past at the same time.
I like to see what books you guys have read. It is giving me a lot of ideas!! My to read list is growing. Lol


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Glenna Morrison | 6 comments The question of which book gave you the most insight is really difficult for me. So many come to mind -- Hawaii, The Covenant, Trinity, Pillars of the Earth, While Six Million Died and on and on. I guess if I had to pick one I would go with The Far Pavilions by M.M. Kaye.


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Harold Titus (haroldtitus) | 99 comments There are obvious classics like "The Grapes of Wrath," but I'll suggest A. B. Guthrie Jr.," two novels "The Big Sky" and "The Way West," the first about mountain men and the second about a wagon train reaching Oregon.


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Berit Lundqvist | 13 comments I would say The Wolf and the Watchman, which is very far from the romanticized versions you often read about life in the 18th century.

Read my review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


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Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 64 comments In terms of getting a sense of time and place you can't beat the Flashman books by George McDonald Fraser - masterful storytelling and so well researched, although some will find the stories unsettling. Flashman was an arch cad.

Anything by Bernard Cornwell gives great insight into the relevant milieux - especially the Sharpe series.

Others have mentioned the Wolf Hall trilogy, which is outstanding, but one not yet mentioned is Shogun by James Clavell. Brilliant portrayal of the very alien world which was feudal Japan.


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Bruce | 373 comments Adrian Deans, I agree about Sharpe’s, although I still haven’t read Flashman. Also, the Brigadier Gerard stories by Doyle, and Hornblower by C.S. Forester were the precursors to Flashman and Sharpe’s (respectively, since Gerard is more comedic, and from my understanding, Hornblower is more serious). Again though, I’ve only read Gerard.


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Eileen Iciek | 462 comments Bruce wrote: "Adrian Deans, I agree about Sharpe’s, although I still haven’t read Flashman. Also, the Brigadier Gerard stories by Doyle, and Hornblower by C.S. Forester were the precursors to Flashman and Sharpe..."

Flashman was hysterically politically incorrect! Could not be written today, or at least written and published.

Philippa Gregory's "The Other Boleyn Girl" was the first book that helped me appreciate the fear that pervaded Henry VIII's England. I certainly knew Tudor history, but that book made me realize what a terrifying time it must have been. Later on I read that some enormous number of people were executed during his reign (maybe 60,000??). To bring it to scale with today's population in England, an equivalent number would be about a million.


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Kathryn Bashaar | 187 comments Phillipa Gregory's The Taming of the Queen gives really good insight into the last years of Henry VIII's reign and especially into the religious ferment of the time. It was dangerous to be a Protestant one day and dangerous to the a Catholic the next. Also a really good portrayal of what it's like for a country to live under a madman who has almost absolute power.


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Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 64 comments Eileen wrote: "Flashman was hysterically politically incorrect! Could not be written today, or at least written and published."

Yep, no way would Flashman be published these days - which is tragic when you think about it. We sanitise the past and therefore forget it and can no longer learn from it.


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Damona (darlingdamona) | 1 comments Down the Common by Ann Baer. An excellent book detailing a year in the life of a village woman in medieval England. It really gives you a good feel of what it must have been like to live in that time and place.


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Robin P When I was younger, I learned a lot from books by
James A. Michener , for instance, The Source, Centennial, Hawaii, and The Covenant. That last one makes it clear how the ridiculous apartheid system got set up.

I learned a lot of French history (not always accurate) from The Three Musketeers and other books by Dumas. I learned about the wars between cousins for control of England from the Brother Cadfael mystery series by Ellis Peters.

From reading Victorian and regency novels, I know a fair number of words related to carriages, clothing, and household items that are little know today but are useful when playing Scrabble!


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Kathryn Bashaar | 187 comments I just finished Down the Common: A Year in the Life of a Medieval Woman. It describes a year in the life of a medieval woman very vividly. So many books set in that era are about queens, and important women are definitely generally more interesting. But I like that this book was about a common woman. That gives you more of a sense of how ordinary people lived.


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Carrie | 59 comments The Women With Silver Wings by Katherine Sharp Landdeck and The Personal Librarian by Marie Benedict and Victoria Christopher Murray


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Andrew Kramer | 24 comments Basically any book by Erik Larson takes you back in time and makes you feel like a spectator.

The book about the Chicago World's Fair and a ghastly string of murders transports one back to 1890's America.


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Jules Larimore (jules_larimore) | 30 comments "The Prophet's Wife" by Libbie Grant is a fascinating look at the early history of the Mormon church, with details on the magical lore and divinatory practices used by it's founder and that were fairly common in the mid-1800s.


Jenna Marie ~Scheming Scribbler~ | 10 comments The Journeyman, I can't imagine how long the author studied for that book!!


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Jeannine (jeanninereads) | 1 comments Seeing the comments from 2018 about the Maisie Dobbs series and I'm reminded of when the news said residents in Ukraine were headed to the subways for safety and I just burst into tears. Jacqueline Winspear does such an incredible job conveying the impact of war in those books.


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Sarah Andrews | 11 comments I just got this book and am so excited to start reading!

Jules wrote: ""The Prophet's Wife" by Libbie Grant is a fascinating look at the early history of the Mormon church, with details on the magical lore and divinatory practices used by it's founder and that were fa..."


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Jools (jools4853) The Book of Lost Friends by Lisa Wingate. This is set in 1862 after the Civil War. Imagine a time with no computers, no internet, no GPS. How did you search for anybody? For the best explanation here is a verbatim quote about the book. "After the Emancipation Proclamation of 1862 and the eventual adoption of the 13th Amendment prohibiting slavery, between 3.5 and 3.9 million freed slaves began to search for their loved ones. Their method of “people-finding” was to place an advertisement for “Lost Friends” in the Southwestern Christian Advocate and have those letters read by pastors in churches all over the South." This book uses actual newspaper articles from the time to tell this story.


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Antonin | 10 comments For me, many books fall into this category. Among them are the Richard Sharpe series by Bernard Cornwell. Great books, but I'm glad I did not live in England during the Napoleonic Era.


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Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 64 comments Antonin wrote: "For me, many books fall into this category. Among them are the Richard Sharpe series by Bernard Cornwell. Great books, but I'm glad I did not live in England during the Napoleonic Era."

Living in France or Spain might have been significantly worse...

But yes, the Sharpe series is outstanding for transporting the reader into those times.


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Richard Wise (sagebrush) I am a Cornwell fan. I loved the Sharpe series and he does an excellent job of evoking the Napoleonic period.

For exceptionally evocative writing, I would cite Hilary Mantel.


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Nicola Matthews | 14 comments The painter of souls by Philip Kazan. Amazing retelling of life as a painter in renaissance Italy.


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Lizet Algras (lizetalgras) | 32 comments Les Misérables, by Victor Hugo.


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Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 64 comments Lizet wrote: "Les Misérables, by Victor Hugo."

He was more or less writing about his own times... which feels like cheating.


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Alexw Undaunted Courage by Stephen Ambrose-taken from Lewis and Clark's journals and added by Ambrose's brilliant writing which has you journeying with these early explorers up the mighty Mississippi.


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Nicola Matthews | 14 comments Barbara wrote: "Charlie Chaplin was reputed to have said, "“There are more valid facts and details in works of art than there are in history books." I have learned a great deal about various historical time period..."

Yeah, seeing a period thorugh a character's eyes really helps get a sense of the time and place. I loved The Rose Code for this. It gave a sense of what it might have been like to work at Blechley in the war.


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Chris Edgerly | 5 comments I've always enjoyed the minutiae when an author describes the feeling of living in another era. What a character is eating, how it was prepared, what clothes they wore and the fabrics of which they were made, customs, habits, etc. Any detail to put you in that time and place is always helpful. Once you feel as though you're there, you're more invested in the story and the arc of a character can take on its full significance.


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KPETE | 12 comments Could you please let me know Historical Non-Fiction and Historical Fiction books that you recommend that follow the following criteria?
(1) You absolutely loved it & gave it 5 *
(2) You learned something about some historical facts that you didn't know before when you read it
(3) It has very little romance, (maybe attraction to someone but no sex scenes)
(4) It takes place any time after 1750-present day -meaning not interested in something that occurred before 1750.
Thank you so much.


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Joan | 25 comments KPETE wrote: "Could you please let me know Historical Non-Fiction and Historical Fiction books that you recommend that follow the following criteria?
(1) You absolutely loved it & gave it 5 *
(2) You learned so..."


Just about anything by Kate Quinn or Kristin Hannah. Start with Quinn's The Huntress and The Diamond Eye if you haven't read them. Not before 1750 though. Sorry.


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KPETE | 12 comments Thank you! I have read The Huntress and thought it was great but I haven't read The Diamond Eye so I will. I am not interested in anything before 1750-just everything from 1750-2022!!


message 96: by Eileen (last edited Nov 21, 2022 06:34AM) (new)

Eileen Iciek | 462 comments Push Not the RiverKPETE wrote: "Thank you! I have read The Huntress and thought it was great but I haven't read The Diamond Eye so I will. I am not interested in anything before 1750-just everything from 1750-2022!!"

James Conroyd Martin's Poland Trilogy takes place during the Napoleonic era in Poland. It starts with "Push Not the River" Push Not the River. I found it very compelling - once I started the first, I had to read the other two as soon as it was finished.


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Joan | 25 comments And another Kate Quinn: The Alice Network.


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Joan | 25 comments Nancy from NJ wrote: "I am also Jewish and my father cane to the US from Russia with his 4 siblings. They left in 1910 and it is unlikely that any of his family who was left survived the pogroms or WWII. My father when ..."

If you haven't read Two Brothers by Ben Elton you might want to read it: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...


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Robin H-R Holmes Richardson (acetax) | 380 comments KPETE wrote: "Could you please let me know Historical Non-Fiction and Historical Fiction books that you recommend that follow the following criteria?
(1) You absolutely loved it & gave it 5 *
(2) You learned so..."


Here's I few...I have more

And All the Saints by Michael Walsh And All the Saints
Scarface and the Untouchable Al Capone, Eliot Ness, and the Battle for Chicago by Max Allan Collins Scarface and the Untouchable: Al Capone, Eliot Ness, and the Battle for Chicago
The Lunatic Fringe A Novel Wherein Theodore Roosevelt Meets the Pink Angel by William L. DeAndrea The Lunatic Fringe: A Novel Wherein Theodore Roosevelt Meets the Pink Angel
The Sherlockian by Graham Moore The Sherlockian
Empire of Deception The Incredible Story of a Master Swindler Who Seduced a City and Captivated the Nation by Dean Jobb Empire of Deception: The Incredible Story of a Master Swindler Who Seduced a City and Captivated the Nation
20 Minutes On The Tube (20 Minutes #1) by Daniel Hurst 20 Minutes On The Tube (present day)


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Adrian Deans (adriandeans) | 64 comments Joan wrote: "If you haven't read Two Brothers by Ben Elton you might want to read it: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1..."

Excellent novel. I lent it to my mother who, to my surprise, read it - it's not usually her thing. As she said: "I had no idea how badly the ordinary German people suffered throughout the entire Nazi regime. I'd never even thought about it."


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