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message 1: by Yael (new)

Yael Shahar | 44 comments Hello folks,

Is there a way of reassigning quotes from a previous version of a book to a new edition?

This book A Damaged Mirror: A story of memory and redemption is now out of print. It's going to be republished in September under a different name, and with some new material (Returning). However, the new version contains the same text as the old one, so the quotes are still relevant.


message 2: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 24737 comments We don't lose the original edition, even if its out of print. This is a book cataloguing site.

When the new book with the different name & some new material is published, you can add the quote to it as well.


message 3: by Yael (new)

Yael Shahar | 44 comments OK, thank you.


message 4: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 43570 comments Mod
Actually, quotes are linked to all editions of a work. So when the new edition is added, as long as it is correctly linked to the older edition, the quotes will show up on its page as well.


message 5: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 24737 comments But as there is new material being added, would it be combined with the existing book?

Sounds like 2 books (Returning has 496 pgs) & not just the one.


message 6: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 43570 comments Mod
Returning appears to be an expanded version of A Damaged Mirror. Both tell the story of Alex, a seventeen-year-old who survived Auschwitz. (The author has another, very short, book also titled Returning, but with completely different content.)


message 7: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 24737 comments OK, I didn't check it out that thoroughly, obviously :)


message 8: by Yael (new)

Yael Shahar | 44 comments :-) Yes, Returning is an expanded edition of A Damaged Mirror. The very short book (Returning: Reflections & Resources on Teshuvah is a book club guide that originally accompanied A Damaged Mirror (and will be used for Returning as well). So while the quotes are relevant to both books, they probably won't automatically link to the new edition.


message 9: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 43570 comments Mod
Yael wrote: "Yes, Returning is an expanded edition of A Damaged Mirror."

Then they should be combined. However, with the newer editions only crediting one of the 2 original authors, that is something of a challenge.


message 10: by Yael (new)

Yael Shahar | 44 comments I'm not really sure they can be combined, as the new version has a fair bit of material not included in the older version. Not a problem in any case. I was just curious about the quote issue, since those would be relevant to either version of the book.


message 11: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 43570 comments Mod
Yael wrote: "as the new version has a fair bit of material not included in the older version."

Can you provide more details about this, please?


message 12: by Yael (new)

Yael Shahar | 44 comments Hi Rivka,

Returning includes some extra material in the autobiographical parts, and two new dialogues between Ovadya (Alex) and Rav Ish-Shalom. In addition, there are a number of new footnotes and glossary entries. Rabbi Cardozo's essay, originally used as a Foreword, is now an Afterword. The back matter also contains an author interview, based on some of the more common questions about the book.

The various educational materials and book club guides haven't changed much, except to reflect the new page numbers and the new metadata for the book.


message 13: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 43570 comments Mod
Thank you for the details. That still sounds like what Goodreads would call a revised or expanded edition, rather than a new work.

Why is only one of the original 2 authors credited?


message 14: by Yael (new)

Yael Shahar | 44 comments The book had originally been published with Ovadya ben Malka listed as an author, since the story is told from his point of view, and much of the early chapters are taken from his journals. As Ovadya is no longer alive, I wanted the book to be a tribute to his memory.

However, our publicist suggested that we use my name on the cover, as I've already established a reputation as a writer. She also suggested that the book be classified as Literary non-fiction, or where that category is not available, as Literary fiction, rather than memoir--reasonable considering the somewhat unconventional way in which Ovadya's experiences survived to be told. The publisher went with that option.


message 15: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (last edited Aug 01, 2018 10:57AM) (new)

rivka | 43570 comments Mod
It took quite a bit of internal discussion, but we have decided to combine all the editions of this work. To make that possible, we have changed the author order on the older editions. The hardcover of the newest edition has been set as the default for the work.

And this will also mean that the quotes that were the original subject of this thread should show up on the new editions as well in a day or two, after the cache updates.


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