Rosemary and Rue, by Seanan McGuire (October Daye #1) ; MOD Takeover BOM ; Starts 2 July 2018

[Devann]

@Alanna well to just answer your question (view spoiler)[not that i remember or at least not in the same way (hide spoiler)] but [kind of further spoilers i guess] (view spoiler)[she can adjust the balance of people's blood like the hope chest and also can tell what different kinds of fae people have in their bloodlines (hide spoiler)]

[Alanna]

Devann wrote: "@Alanna well to just answer your question [spoilers removed] but [kind of further spoilers i guess] [spoilers removed]"

(view spoiler)[My friend and I are reading book 2 (though I've stopped to let her catch up) and she's arguing that she could just ride the ALH employees' blood to figure out who the murderer is. I say that she doesn't have the ability, and on top of that there's the issue of fae lore--asking for part of one's body like that would be WAY out of line, IIRC. I also already know who the murderer is, though. (hide spoiler)]

[Devann]

@Alanna (view spoiler)[haha yeah i don't think it's ever worked like that but it would definitely be convenient if she could pull memories out of living people's heads through their blood, although i guess that would probably just make her job entirely too easy overall so that's probably why seanan never went that route (hide spoiler)]

[Lexi]

19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?
I'm just glad Devin was not kept on the list due to him being such a predator as I have abandoned other series where someone that is ok. Otherwise, I'm just glad that it isn't given too much focus.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?
I am not sure why but I really liked her.

21 Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?
He was a quintessential abuser, gaslighter and predator and it can be hard to see that when in those situations. I'm glad it wasn't dragged out over multiple books.

22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?
That was awesome. I am a fan of cats so also good. kj
23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained. I'm pretty sure they never knew and she was hiding it all the time. The question for me is did her father know.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?
It was average for me but I'm told it really picks up by book 3 so I want to read more but maybe not right away.

[Katie]

Chapters 6-13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.

Toby needs to stay away from Devin. He has hurt her, though we’re not sure how yet. He does give them a safe space and some bits of love as far as the runaways go, and I’m sure in some twisted way he does care about them, but I hate that they have to fear him.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?
Toby pushes everyone away after what happened to her. She doesn’t have anyone she is actually close to and comfortable with as far as friendship because she didn’t want to come back into the Fae world. Evening truly cared for her and she took care of home to make sure it was there initially for when Toby came back.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?
As Toby said, it would be like opening Pandora’s box. No one knows what is in it for sure, at least Toby doesn’t). Evening took the responsibility for the Hope Chest and gave it to the person she trusted most to take care of it when she wasn’t able to do so anymore.

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far?
He seems to be like that annoying family member who messes with you, but is glad to see you. He helped her, even though he didn’t want to, and protected her from the affect of the sunrise.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?
It’s affected Toby for sure, it may wear off, but it is hard to say how long. I’m also wondering if the curse and/or time in the Fae world is helping her with her magic.


12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Luna seems to be an amazing, loving person. Sylvester the same. Their daughter, ugh. I’m hoping she will become a different type of person and this is just what she puts out now. Collin, I think he may be trouble as well. He may not love his wife, but I don’t feel like he should be flirting with October mainly due to what trouble it could cause her.

[Katie]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?
Very motherly figure. I didn’t have any expectations of her.

14. Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!"Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help? She is alone it. She doesn’t want to ask anyone else for help because she doesn’t want anyone to get hurt or bother them with this.

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15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door. Yes she was fooled. She would do anything to have her daughter back in her life. And the heart pulls you in different ways than logic.


16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?
A lot of extra does seem to be going on, but I like the book so far


17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?
Right now, my guess is Devin is really the bad guy.


18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?
Of course! She is the hero.

[Katie]

Set 4: 21-end

Finished!

19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?

Tybalt has done a lot for Toby. I think that relationship would be fun to see.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?

I think it was a great idea to keep her in Toby’s debt. It means when she needs that question answered she will have someone without having to give up anything. Also, it means we will see her again!

21 Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?
Tony trusted him so much because love blinds the heart. I was surprised by this discovery at all.



22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?

My favorite character was Dare. So brave and truly wanted out.

23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained.
I don’t know if Gilly knew about it or if she thought she made it up as a child, but the story says Cliff doesn’t.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?
I liked it, quick to read which are my favorite type of books (meaning not really any lulls in the story). I want to know more about Ryas and what happened to her and her mom.

[Brigia]

I've started a bit late. Answers without having read through the earlier comments:

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?
The spell was cruel, but so far I'm not convinced that all the fae lack humanity. I quite liked what I read about Sylvester, and Evening Winterrose and even Tybalt also seemed quite likeable. I wonder if that's going to change... I have no idea if 14 is a significant number, except for making absolutely sure that her old life is truly gone - 7 years would have cut it too close, I guess. I think she does penance because she blames herself for falling into Simon's trap.

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?
I do wonder about that - maybe she isn't even in the human world anymore? At least, I don't think October has tried calling her, only her husband.
edit: After reading through the previous comments, I think that, like the police officer, maybe they don't believe she is who she says? They did think she is human and so she should have aged, after all.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)
Well, they're independence IS very important to them, isn't it? :-) That makes it even more precious if they do decide to stay with you - you cannot force a cat to stick around...

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?
I would think if you live that long you probably have a lot of history with most people you know, both good and bad. So I'd guess this is typical of the fae.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?
I think she feels guilty for not being there for her child when she needed her and doesn't want to pressure her. Maybe she doesn't want to upset her life or wants to respect Cliff's decision to not let her back into their lives.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?
I've go no clue at all what it could be about, so far. I got the impression that the Queen of Mists has a phobia of dying and that's the reason she doesn't want to have anything to do with it. On the other hand, her not helping was a surprise to October, so maybe there is more to it.

[Brigia]

Chapters 6-13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.
I don't feel I know enough about him to really make up my mind. He seems to give these kids a home, but also expects something from them in return. October seems to see everyone through her own bitterness, so I'm not sure how much I believe her take on people. I'm curious about Devin.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?
It is what friends would do for each other, I guess. Further proof that October has a lot more people who care for her than she believes. Though maybe there is more to it, I can't be sure. Devin seemed to trust Winterrose's motivation and he doesn't strike me as someone who would trust a pureblood easily.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?
There seems to be something more to the Hope Chest, since it is mentioned that no pureblood would ever give it to a changeling. Maybe it changes you for a price?

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)
I completely agree. I've liked him from the start. He seems a typical "bad boy" character and I think he has a crush on her.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?
Yes, that's how it is explained. And again, I can't know, but I don't think it will really wear off.

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!
I like Sylvester and Luna, Rayseline is creepy and for some reason I didn't like Connor. It was just first impressions, though, and since the MC has such a twisted view on everyone, I feel it's really hard at this point to be certain about anyone's character.

[Geraldine]

Love the book...I have gone on to read most of the series so far so won't comment further.

[Vicki]

Day 1, Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?

I agree that the curse was heartless. I honestly know very little about fae, so this "introduction" to them doesn't make me feel very good about them. I think Simon was specifically being cruel to her. I don't know why the time was doubled, but I doubt it was by accident. I'm sure there's a designed plan.

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?

It makes sense that Gilly would be a changeling. I think it is sad that she won't see her mother, but there are many mother/daughter relationships in real life that struggle too. I think that I would most definitely want answers but my pride MIGHT keep me from asking.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)

I am most definitely not a cat-lover...at all! I am a dog lover but leave the cats to others who love and appreciate them!

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?

I honestly have no idea how to answer this question because I haven't read hardly anything about fae before.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?

I really like her a lot. I like how she really does care about her friend's death enough to really investigate it and get involved.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?

I don't know what the mocker is and I think it is very feasible that it might have something to do with the Queen of Mist's reason not to help find Evening's killer.

[Vicki]

Chapters 6-13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.

As of now I'm not too fond of Devin because I think he's definitely been inappropriate with some of the girls.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?

It isn't atypical for certain people to push others away when they themselves have been hurt or bullied, etc. October is a bit negative and doesn't seem to believe that others truly care for her.

Also because October is half-human and the pure bloods have power over her, and that's never really a comfortable place to be. She might not be able to see her worth as a result.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?

Although curiosity killed the cat, sometimes the idea of the unknown is too scary! Since no one really knows what the Hope Chest does, it's evident that it might do nothing good but only bad. Offering it to October might be opening up a whole new can of worms.

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)

I'm keeping an open mind, but having taught Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet for 25 years and knowing how hot-headed Tybalt was (and it's what his name means), I'm skeptical about him. He'll have to prove himself to me.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?

Her magic might be becoming easier simply because with a little practice most things do. I assume it depends on the kind of magic it is as to whether or not it will last forever or wear off.

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!

So far I like Sylvester. Connor is a bit "strange" but that makes people interesting, so I'm good with his family so far.

Luna, on the other hand, is harder for me to figure out how she really feels. I think she might be being a bit fake in how she acts but time will tell.

[Vicki]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?

I have a new granddaughter (4 months old) named Lily, so I couldn't help but wonder based on her sweet nature how this Lily would be. LOL I don't think she is a very strong female character as of now, but that may change. I hope what Simon did to her wasn't as awful as I can picture.

14. Screw you, Evening! "I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and you're going off and leaving me to deal with this alone! "Why would October say she is doing this alone? From what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?

I think in part this relates back to how Toby feels about herself. I see her lacking confidence and she just doesn't believe that people like her that much so she has trust issues. I think she will do what she has to do, but it usually feels SO MUCH BETTER when you have help, especially when you're over your head.

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.

Honestly, I don't think she opened the door to the "Doppleganger." I think she opened it to whomever she thought it might be.

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?

The issue I have is that I've listened to over half of the book on audio while driving and I have a hard time keeping them all in my head. I prefer reading along to an audio with a physical copy and writing down names of characters until I get to know and remember them.

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?

I haven't trusted him from the get-go. I'm not sure he really does care for October yet. I have a hard time letting go of who he was in his previous actions by using children who need love and good role models, not someone who uses them.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?

Good question. I hope she does find the killer in this book and I think she will, because I don't think the readers want that kind of cliffhanger. LOL

[Brigia]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?
She, like nearly everyone else we get to meet, seems quite a bit nicer than I expected. Though honestly, I didn't think about her too much before.

14. Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!"Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?
Well, people are trying to help her and she has asked for help at least once (when she gave the hope chest to Tybalt), but on the other hand, no one else seems to have killers after them. Also, trust issues. October clearly believes she can't trust anyone to help without at the very least wanting something in return. Others know this about her - Lily asks her, why she didn't just ask to be let into the Japanese Tea Garden; apparently that had never occured to October.

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.
Well, I think she a) was hurt badly and not at her best and b) wanted to believe so much that it really was her daughter.

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?
I like the book, it isn't boring and I love the sense of humor. But I agree that there are a lot of characters and it's difficult to keep up. I don't usually read fae-themed books, so I would really like more of an explanation of the different races, as well. A glossary would be helpful...

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?
I don't like Devin - I want her to end up with Tybalt lol. I was wondering what was up with him, until Dare gave the "the one that got away" explanation. I think Devin feels like he owns "his kids" and dislikes that Toby left him.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?
Yes to the second question, she has to survive. I don't know about the first question. I hope the book doesn't end on a cliffhanger and that she can find the killer...

[Vicki]

Set 4: 21-end

And I am done!

19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?

I do like a good romance, and in this story with its characters, I think Tybalt would be a good romantic match.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?

I think she did the right thing so Toby didn't make a mistake. I think she did it so that she can use it in a later book for something more important.

21. Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?

I wasn't surprised at all! I didn't care for him nor trust him from the get-go, so I thought it might be him anyway. I think that because she really liked him it was easier for her to trust him.

22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?

I think my favorite was probably the Luidaeg.

23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained.

I don't think it ever said they knew, so I'm thinking that perhaps we might find out in another book...I hope.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?

I liked it all right, but I didn't love it. I haven't gotten too much into the fae so that might be partly why. But it's kind of like a restaurant: I can't try it one time, not like the food, and say it's a terrible place. I have to try at least one more time (maybe two), so I'll most likely read book 2 and see if it grows on me.

[Lauri]

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?
Yes! Very cruel, indeed! Well, if they're not human, why expect them to have any humanity whatsoever? Not sure why the spell should last 14 years. Maybe October calls it a penance because she was doing something she knew she shouldn't be doing when the spell was put upon her...

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?
I found it very strange that a daughter wouldn't want to see her mother ever again. You'd think that even though she may believe her mother abandoned her, she'd want to at least meet with her one time...

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)
Cats are cats and that's that. Dogs have owners, but cats have staff. They seem to think its a privilege for us to wait upon them. I'm guessing Sidhe must me much the same...

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?
I'm getting a strong impression that the pure blooded face look down upon the changelings. Even though October has some badass skills, they still will always feel superior.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?
I'm not sure yet! I want to like her, but then she's turned into a fish, is bound to solve a murder by tasting blood, goes to a mysterious faerie court....

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?
I'm guessing that the Queen either knows something about Evening's death or ordered it herself. Perhaps she was too outspoken or not reverential enough? She definitely didn't seem surprised to hear of it! Not sure what the mockery could possibly be yet!

[Brigia]

Set 4: 21-end

Finished!

19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?
I've loved Tybalt from the start and have wanted her to end up with him since we first met him! Though actually I didn't like how Toby acts with each of the men. I didn't get why she jumped into bed with Devin and the whole thing with Conner was also quite strange to me. This part actually really annoyed me.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?
I like her, too. She does seem dangerous, but Toby was out of options with the curse acting up. And because of that promise, I guess it's a safe bet we can expect the Luidaeg to show up again, which is great :-)

21 Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?
I didn't suspect him at first, but the more we learned about him, the less likeable he turned out to be. I was sure it was him when he didn't call Sylvester as promised.

22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?
Yes. Tybalt. :-) He is interesting and fun and seems to have a lot of integrity. I love that Toby instinctively trusts him with the hope chest and how she can count on him when she really needs to. I also like that he doesn't get overprotective, but seems to respect her.

23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained.
Well, if it was explained, I missed it too. As far as I understood, he didn't know that she was a Changeling, just as her father didn't know about her and her mother.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?
It was fun reading. I liked some aspects of it and I would like to read more about some of the characters. Unfortunately I didn't like the MC. Since this really bugs me, I probably won't continue with the series.

[Shelby]

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?
I would think there has to be some sort of significance to the timing since the spell released on it's own and wasn't actually broken in anyway. But it's always possible that chance played it's hand. October feels guilty for getting caught and not completing the job she was on. She wanted to save her friends and never thought she'd end up where she was at. By failing she assumes everyone will be as mad at her as she is at herself.

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?
I get the feeling that changeling blood doesn't always manifest and it's a waiting game to see if it does or not. Maybe it never did with Gilly. I think if I was in her position I would want to know where my mom's been and what happened, but maybe she still needs to get past the mad first and we'll run into her later.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)
It was a fun comparison. But even cats like to be cuddled sometimes.

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?
I think a lot of this is in October's own mind. I think she sees there relationships as adversarial because she's scared to let someone in. As long as they don't actually really care about her they can't hurt her, the can't be taken away or leave. I think both probably care about her more than she knows.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?
She's a bit of a conundrum. She's very touchy and reactive most of the time. But then again she's been trapped for 14 years and who knows if that's what she was like before. I think she's conditioned herself to think people don't want her around and she's apply thing logic to her daughter too. But we didn't get to see how that interaction went. We're just told her interpretation of it. I hope at some point she really does push her way into seeing her daughter.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?
I think things are all screwed up in fairy and I have a feeling whatever is going on is also going to tie back to the original case October was working. The incidents of 14 years ago are not over.

[Shelby]

Chapters 6-13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.
I think there's has always been a love with conditions, but I do think Devin does actually care about October as much as he's capable of.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?
I keep coming back to the idea that October's view of how people see her are different that how they see her. These people have always cared about October and hopefully she'll learn to see that.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?
I read this as this was one of the possibilities of the Hope Chest, but that no one was really sure what it does. We also don't know how long she's had the chest. And since she returned October hasn't really tried to talk with much of anyone.

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)
This is exactly what I see between Tybalt and October. I think he really does like her but doesn't know how to go about showing it. And every time October insists they're enemies he's thrown. He does like teasing her though.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?
I think it definitely if nothing else replenished her magic juices. But who knows if it's permanent or if there's any sort of growth to her actual magic. I'm sure we'll find out as the story progresses.

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!
I liked Sylvester and Luna. They seem to genuinely care about October. Their daughter on the other hand, yuck. Obviously she's been through some things, but it's gonna take some things happening for me to really like her. Connor seems forced to have to make the best out of bad choices and again seems to care about October.

[Devann]

hey guys i just wanted to let you know that i requested a buddy read for book 2 A Local Habitation starting on august 1st so keep an eye out for them to put the thread up :)

[Shelby]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?
I don't think I really had any expectations of Lily. But I appreciate how she cares about October.

14. Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!"Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?
This is the biggest thing that is starting to annoy me about October. She doesn't accept/acknowledge that there are people around her who care and want to help her. She has this me against the world mentality that seems to be rather silly.

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.
This didn't bug me at all. After 14 years if your missing daughter showed up and said she wanted to talk I'm sure most anyone would let them in and not question it.

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?
Honestly there's a lot about this book that bugs me. It's a decent story, but there's also a lot of unnecessary that seems to muddy the waters and take away from developing October. A lot of things feel a bit arbitrary to make her seem isolated even though she really isn't, or only seems that way by her own choice.

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?
Those sorts always seem to want something in return.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?
She'll find the killer but I'm sure it won't be without a whole bunch of pain. The author seems determined to make things dark even when they don't have to be.

[Shelby]

Set 4: 21-end

Finished!

19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?
Tybalt please! To me he clearly has an interest in her and has been hiding it for whatever reason. Conner's continued pursuit makes me not like him as much honestly considering his current position. And well her fiancé made his decision clear after basically saying yeah don't want to see you after 14 years. I would actually like a bit clearer of a romantic picture with this. I'm getting over the every male thinks you're amazing but you don't see it and don't get that they're interested thing.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?
I really enjoyed the Luidaeg character as well. She's so much fun. Old and crafty. I think ultimately there will be a healthy dose of grudging respect between these two. October's smart enough to protect herself by having the situation the way it is.

21 Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?
I wasn't that surprised by this ending either. I never liked Devin he was too smarmy. I really felt like Toby should have known better based on their past, she trusted his intentions too fully.

22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?
Great moment. I really liked the little Rose Goblin as well. (view spoiler)[I think Dare would have been one of my favorite characters. Her ending really pissed me off. I would have been fine killing her brother and her choosing to kill Devin because of it. Killing Dare seemed like a f-u to the audience. She was intriguing and redeemable. She deserved to have that chance. (hide spoiler)]

23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained.
Nothing was ever explained as to how she hid it, but it was made clear that her human lover couldn't know what she was. If her child had turned out as a changeling as well they would have been given the same choice October was.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?
This was just ok for me. It wasn't terrible, but I'm not going to be in a hurry to read the other books. I'd probably give it another shot though. Later books, give me Tybalt please!

[Lauri]

Chapters 6-13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship?
He seems like some kind of paranormal pimp! He just uses the children for his own gain. He seems to care for Toby, but she still owes him. All the fae seem somewhat mercenary to me.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?
I'm thinking we're going to learn something more about their relationship down the line. Maybe they're blood relatives?

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?
Maybe Evening liked Toby being "less than" herself? Maybe she was keeping it a secret for reasons we haven't learned yet...

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)
Not sure about this one. It does seem like he likes her somehow.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?
It does seem like the brief contact with the chest helped her magical ability immediately. I don't know how long it might last...

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!
Wacky! Sly & Luna seem to be nice & to genuinely care for Toby. Raysel seems batshit crazy! Such a little bitch. Apparently Connor & Toby have some past history between them...

[Tina ❣]

I'm a bit late to start but I'm liking it so far!

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?
There probably is but I'm not sure. I think she calls it her penance as she feels she was doing something wrong... spying on the fae

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?
I don't think so but I'm not sure how a 1/4 of being something works in this book. I think she'd have minor fae abilities that could still be passable as human.
Fair enough, 14 years with out a mother. Gilly probably thought she was abandoned or forgotten. It would take time for Gilly to accept her mum is back and to realise that she would want to see Toby.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)
I love cats. I wish I had one but 3 of the 5 family members are allergic and we have a dog and a rabbit already.
Cats love company and I love their independence as well.

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?
I think it's typical. I feel like every book describe Fae a little differently. They're definitely a harsh specie but they can still love... or like

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?
I think she doesn't want to push it. If her hubby hung up on October, he's not happy with her and wouldn't want Gilly to see October. She's probably still figuring out how to be human again and get herself together.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?
No idea! We shall see!

[Teddie]

Set 2:
7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.

Reading about Devin, and the relationship he and October used to have, it sounded more like the relationship of an abuser and his favorite. A person who treats others the way he does, isn’t to be trusted, no matter how nice he acts at brief points. He wants to stay master, so any attempt by another to be even an equal, will be squashed.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?

October seems to push everyone away - that it how she survives being a half-fae. Winterose has a different perspective, and perhaps some alliegience to October’s mother. Maybe even some fae recognize injutice and try to do something about it.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?

Perhaps it is like when wealthy parents create a trust for immature children, that they can only access once they’ve turned a certain age or reached a particular milestone in development - October wasn’t mature enough (or experienced enough) to make the choice, in Evening’s view.


10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)

I too was reminded of Gilbert dipping Anne’s pigtails and calling her Carrots - there is obviously something there, and I’m curious about how it will develop.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?

I think the chest definitely influenced October’s ability to do magic more easily. I think the effect will wear off ovr time, until October does something that calls for the chest’s proximity again.

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seem like a strange guy to figure out to me!

I think the reason I’m not loving this book is that the author wants the fae to be FAE but also relatable and humanish - I'm not reading a real consistency of characters’ actions and motivations yet in this book. Perhaps this solidifies more in later books.

[Cathy M.]

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5


1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?

I always think the numbers have some sort of relevance in stories like these but don't know what it is at this point. In most fae stories, the fae are cruel so it's not so surprising. I think her penance is having to re-build her life without her family & pretty much starting from scratch for not saving Sylvester's wife & daughter.

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?

I'm thinking that Gilly probably has so little magic that she never had to make a choice & magic doesn't affect her life. Gilly is a teenager now so can see why she would want nothing to do with her mother. She probably felt abandoned by October.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)

I agree with that being a cat caretaker myself :)

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?

I think it's more of a fae thing. She did say that "Tybalt has never made a secret of his contempt for changelings in general and me in particular" so don't think it's just October.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?

She tried contacting them but they wouldn't talk to her. Can't force a relationship with someone who wants nothing to do with you.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?

Maybe something to do with the fae or fae court? Would explain why the Queen wouldn't help October.

[Cathy M.]

Chapters 6-13


7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.

It sounded really creepy to me. Just the way she described how when she lived there, the little favors, then started coming into her room, even expecting her to pay him back for all the favors he did for her. Just sounded so wrong. He used her, and she knew it but continued to allow it because she didn't have anywhere else to go. Definitely not a healthy relationship. I want to like him for the home he provides for the others & the fact that he did look for her but wonder about his motives.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?

I feel like Toby doesn't really like the fae. Winterrose was the person she called after escaping the pond, Winterrose was the one who helped her thru it, Winterrose was the one who kept Home safe. Actions do speak louder than words so it was evident that she cared for Toby even if she didn't acknowledge it. But I don't think we have enough of their backstory to know exactly why.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?

Maybe there wasn't enough time, maybe she had just obtained it. Maybe she didn't know enough about it. Or Maybe she wanted to know what the catch was, because things like this don't just give. There has to be a negative effect somewhere.

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)

He may have a fondness for her but it didn't seem romantic to me. Of course we're only getting the story from her side so what we read is somewhat skewed.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?

I do think it's because of the magic & power coming from the Hope Chest. I do think it will wear off once she's not touching or near it.

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!

His reaction to seeing her was unexpected. I didn't expect him to be so nice. Raysel wasn't very pleasant - like Toby WANTED to be cursed! I feel like she's going to be somewhat of a villain. & I have a feeling Connor still has a thing for Toby.

[Christina]

Completely missed that there was another Seanan McGuire book being read :(

[Cathy M.]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20


13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?

Didn't really have any expectations of her but I did like her. She seemed nice enough.

14. Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!"Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?

I thought that while reading that she didn't seem to have a lot of friends. Or at least people she had that type of relationship with (like a support network/people she completely trusted & worked with). There were a lot of acquaintance-type figures, but she did seem like more of a loner to me. Also, it felt like she felt it was her burden to bare.

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.

I think it was more shock & hope so she didn't realize it was a Doppelganger at first.

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?

I liked the book and the writing style. Just wish it was more exciting & more engaging. And usually in these types of book, the MC has a core group of friends who help her kick ass & figure things out. I really missed that here.

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?

I didn't like him based on the earlier scenes so I didn't believe any of it.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?

Had hoped so.

[Cathy M.]

Set 4: 21-end

Finished!

19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?

Connor should definitely be out of the running because he has Raysel - regardless of whether the marriage was based on politics and not love, doesn't matter. Can only see that happening with Tybalt. But at this point I don't care about the romance aspect because no one really stood out to me.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?

I thought she was funny & think she'll be an interesting character to see in the future. Hopefully she'll be more of an ally than an enemy.

21 Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?

I didn't think it was going to be Devin in the end but am not all that surprised by it. He was manipulative and not the greatest character so I didn't think too highly of him anyways. I was surprised by Manuel's actions though, after having spent time with Toby. I thought they had developed sort of a bond. But then Devin did have his hooks in him & Dare to begin with so...

22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?

Can't say I have a favorite yet. Think I'll need to read at least one more in the series.

23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained.

I didn't think he knew. He was human after all, and I'm sure if he saw something different about her, he would've mentioned it since they were together for a while (couple years at least). Never really thought about the dawn thing but maybe she hid it from him somehow.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?

I did like it overall but felt like it was missing that something to keep you completely engaged in the story & fall in love with the stories & characters. I would like to read at least another one in this series (they usually DO get better).

[Eldarwen]

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?

Fae have never really been kind in my book, so this didn't strike me as overly cruel. Cruel, yes, but completely in tune with Fae in my book. The spell would probably have lasted a lot longer still. My guess is that it was broken because Simon died.

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?

Maybe the magic isn't very strong in her since she's only a quarter fae. Maybe one of the parents needs to be fae for the magic to manifest itself. I don't think the fact that the girl is nicknamed Gilly and Toby was transformed into a fish has any connection.
After 14 years? I think the girl has long made her peace with the fact that her mother has disappeared. Maybe it was too much of a shock to her system to have her suddenly return from the dead. Maybe some day she'll be ready to get in touch with October.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)

Depends on the cat. Some are very, very much like that, others not quite so much. But I liked the way the Cait Sidhe were introduced. Tybalt is well done. Cruel and playful, like most cats.

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?

I think this is mostly October. She doesn't have the magical power to stand up to most of the fae and both Tybalt and Evening are purebloods with a considerable amount of power at their disposal, not only because of their titles and positions. Toby probably wouldn't mind being able to play in the big leagues but can't back up her feisty and snippy personality, and she doesn't like it, at all.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?

She is a very lost and insecure person, despite the fact that she doesn't like letting others walk all over her (Tybalt for instance). She doesn't know where she belongs and all the people she has left in the world are people who could break her completely without a second thing and with the snip of a finger. Besides, she took away her mother's choice of living either in the human world or the summer lands, and she probably doesn't want to take choices away from Gillian by forcing the girl to see her by turning up on her doorstep. She seems to want to leave that choice up to the girl even if she does call them all the time.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?

I have absolutely no idea.

[Lauri]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?
She seems to be very sweet and she cares deeply for Toby. Her looks surprised me! Too bad she couldn't have helped Toby when she was a fish!

14. Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!"Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?
I believe it's some kind of fae/ changeling code. Like not saying thank you!

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.
I think she was just so excited at the prospect of seeing Gillian again, she opened the door in hopes of having her back in her life once again. The doppelgänger quickly acted strangely, tipping Toby off. I thought that the "no close neighbors?" question was the most odd!

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?
I am enjoying the book very much! I like the addition of characters in these chapters! I was tiring of Toby being such a lone wolf. I like that her friends are looking out for her. It makes her more lovable.

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?
im going to go out on a limb here & say yes! Even with all the sex with anyone, etc. he seems to really love Toby.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limbs still attached?
Maybe the quest for the killer will remain unresolved in this book, but Toby will definitely live to fight another day!

[Eldarwen]

DQ Set 2 - Chapters 6 - 13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.

He said he searched for her but who's to say that's actually true? I'm not sure about him. One moment I think he's for real and the next I'm wondering how he's going to screw Toby over. In any case, he is very giving in every way - violence, abuse, praise... And frankly, I'm not too sure what to make of his relations with the kids... Granted, the fae do not look upon age the same way humans do, but it seems a lot like bullying/seducing them into an abusive relationship.
And that is definitely what Toby's and Devin's relationship is, too. They may really care for each other but what they had before Toby left was one hell of an abusive relationship.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?

They hated and loved each other but didn't know how to do either one properly and while October kept pushing Evening away, she still cared about her. Toby just pushes everyone away - she doesn't really discriminate in that respect.

Evening's reasons for making sure that Home remains may not even have anything to do with Toby. Changeling kids aren't all bad and they do need a place to stay because they often don't fit with either world. Home gives them a place to belong. Evening may just have been bored and wanted to try something new or she wanted to change the fae's general view on changelings a little. Or something completely different. Guess the story will tell.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?

They weren't close friends. Why would she give up a secret like that? Besides, nobody seems to really know what the Hope Chest actually does, not to mention the fact that most of faerie seems to believe they're just a legend. October doesn't know where she belongs, she doesn't want to have a specific place in either world - offering her the Hope Chest in order to become a pureblood would have made things worse for Toby. She'd probably have been even more lost if she had made the choice one way or another.

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)

Right? That's what I thought as well. I don't really see that hate Toby keeps insisting there is. He readily appears when she calls for him, no matter that he makes her wait. He helps her through the dawn and doesn't refuse the favour she's asking of him. I like him and I can't wait to see what his reckoning will be.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?

Mmhh, I think the Hope Chest did indeed affect her a little. Maybe the burning sensation she felt while touching it was the Hope Chest tapping into her magic and strengthening her power a little, instead of just being temptation calling for her. As for the long-term effects... not sure it'll stick but since fae magic is tricky, maybe it just might stick after all.

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!

I was surprised by how happy Sylvester was to see Toby again after she refused to acknowledge his messages. All the more so because he had apparently gone insane over Luna's disappearance. The daughter however.. she has more than just a few screws loose!
Connor seems like a nice enough guy, but I don't understand how he happens to be married to Raysel when Luna, at least, knows that they aren't in love. Was it just because Connor's parents want him to be with a pureblood?

[Annalisa]

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?
I don't know that there is any significance to the time the spell lasts. 14 years is a long time to be away though. The six months after being called her penance, maybe because she is letting herself wallow because she feels like she should not have been caught.

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?
I don't think Gilly has to make a choice. For some reason I think only halfbloods have to make the choice.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)
Cats will be cats.

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?
I think it is typical of October. I think maybe fae have some hardness but I don't think they all act like October. I think she is doing a good bit of sulking and blaming for her past.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?
I think I can understand why October isn't going to her daughter. My guess is she hasn't changed and her daughter will. She took the first step and reached out. I think she isn't ready for force herself on her child yet.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?
I think the mockery is a feud among the fae. I don't think it has anything to do with theQqueen, but maybe it has something to do with the disappearance of the Duke's wife and child.

[Devann]

hey i just wanted to say that we've got a buddy read of the 2nd book starting tomorrow if anyone wants to continue the series [although i might have started today lol]

[kat (wanderfulbooks)]

Set 1: Prologue to chapter 5

1. What strikes me is the heartlessness of the fae, or perhaps a better way to say it is their lack of humanity. That curse was so cruel: October was spelled into becoming a fish, and the spell stuck for 14 years, twice the length a human is held in the fae hollow hills. Do you think there is any relevance to the amount of time the spell lasted? Why do you think October calls the 6 months after she emerges from the spell her penance?

I definitely think there is a specific reason why the spell just "let go" after 14 years. With Evening's death, I guess we'll find out soon enough. And that penance thing, it's just October's guilt of being turned into a fish and not being able to raise her daughter properly.

2. The daughter's name is Gilly and her mother was turned into a fish? Seems like someone should have seen that coming. Ok, the question: If Gilly is a quarter fae, doesn't that make her a changeling as well? If 14 years has passed, it seems she didn't need to make the choice, or she chose human - do you think the choice has been made? What do you think about a daughter not wanting to see her mother - even with just a quarter fae, wouldn't there be some things that are strange in her life? Wouldn't she want some answers?
I think we're going to see more og Gillian soon when she'd come knocking for answers. Being a teenager, I'm sure several thoughts have gone through her mind.

3. I laughed at the comparison of cats to Sidhe, "...where both sides said, "I don't need you," and both answered, "You'll still stay." How many cat caretakers (as one never OWNS a cat) out there agree? (Non-cat people: feel free to chime in. ;)
Well, it sure was a witty line ;)

4. In these few opening chapters, we are introduced to two characters, Tybalt and Evening, both of whom October seems to have a hate/love or love/hate relationship with, while there is still some sort of a bond. Do you think this typical of the fae, or just October?
Faes are alwaya about love/hate relationships. I'd say authors thrive on that relationship spinning it to their liking.

5. After 5 chapters, I am having a hard time understanding October. I know she is a changeling and so only half human, but I don't understand why she doesn't go to her child. I am hoping there is more context about her pre-fish years so I have a better view on why she makes the choices she makes. What is your take on October?
So far, feeling a bit disconnected with the character but curious enough to continue reading.

6. When October relives Evening's death, she hears Evening say about her: "...she'll find what's been left for her to find, she'll end this mockery at last." What are your guesses about what the "mockery" is? Do you think it has something to do with why the Queen of Mists won’t help find Evening’s killer?
I have absolutely no idea at to what "mockery" Evening was referring to but her reference to a key being found by October sounds like maybe October is not at all as she seems.

[kat (wanderfulbooks)]

Chapters 6-13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.
I don't like Devlin. There's something fishy about his character and I don't care that he's "rescuing" changelings. I don't get why Toby came to him instead of Sylvester.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?
Maybe Toby is more than who she seems in the grand scheme of things? ;)

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?
Everyone thinks it's nonexistent so I guess there's more to the Hope chest than meets the eye. It holds the key to something that could mean big trouble if left in the wrong hands that's why it was kept secret for so long.

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)
Pfffft, Tybalt definitely likes her. And I definitely want more Tybalt.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?
I hope she gets stronger! She has done nothing but ask favor from several people making her indebted and we're not even halfway through the book. When is she going to actually make a better decision lol

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!
Adorable wife, bitchy daughter and fishy son-in-law.

[kat (wanderfulbooks)]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?
Lily sounds like the fairy godmother to Toby's Cinderella.

14. Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!"Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?
In my opinion, she has been asking help from several people already. She was just not smart enough to ask for what really matters.

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.
I was surprised as well because I didn't get the strong maternal vibe from her throughtout the book. I guess a mother will always be amother.

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?
No. I am still debating whether to read the next book or not. We'll see how it ends.

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?
Devin, I don't care for at all. Can we just make him disappear? He's such a seedy character. And that's something in a pool of weird characters.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?
I hope the ending won't be crammed but I guess this is an introduction a bigger story arc so... No, I don't think Toby's going to solve who killed Evening here.

[Annalisa]

Chapters 6-13

7. During these chapters we meet Devin. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about the things he does to these runaways? October claims they used each other but love each other all the same. What do you think of their relationship? He searched for her for 10 years when no one else cared enough to.
I thought Devin was an interesting character, at least what we have seen of him so far. I don't know that I'm getting a great feel for any of the characters so far. I think he helps the runaways in the way they need, seems odd to us. Devin and October seem to have a relationship that is closer than we have seen with her other interactions.

8. Winterrose did a lot for October - more then she ever knew. She kept her Home safe while she was missing. Why do you think that was? How was it that Evening cared so much for October when it's clear that October kept pushing her away?
I think Evening was a good fae and she cared about others. Maybe in a strange way, but seeing as she is the one October reached out to when she wasn't a fish anymore it makes since she would care for October and what October values.

9. After October's visit with Devin she gets trapped in fog caused by a rose goblin. The goblin hands her the key that Evening gave away right before she was murdered. By using the key October found the Hope Chest which she assumes is why Evening was murdered. The Hope Chest give a changeling the ability to become Pure Blood. If Evening had this why do you think she never told October or offered it to her?
I'm sure their must be some draw backs to the Hope Chest. Also, it seems like no one really knows what it does. I think Evening was protecting it, but it may not be the reason she was killed. I think if she had offered it to October, October would have refused.

10. October gives the chest to Tybalt for keeping, making him promise to protect it for her. What do you think of him so far? I think his relationship with October is so interesting. To me, it seems like he cares about her even though October keeps saying there is nothing but hate between them. He's like a little boy teasing the girl he likes mercilessly because he's embarrassed he likes her. :)
Tybalt is an interesting character. Again, I don't know that I really have a good feel for him. He seems like a cat, devious and playful.

11. It seems as if October's magic is becoming easier for her to do. Do you think the Hope Chest has already affected her? Do you think it will ever wear off?
I wondered if it was the Hope Chest, but I also wondered if it was the binding the Evening put on her. I think what ever it is that it will wear off.

12. We finally meet Sylvester and his family? What do you think of them? Connor seems like a strange guy to figure out to me!
I liked Sylvester and Luna. I'm not so sure how I feel about Raysel, and Connor seems like he regrets his choice as a result I'm not sure I like him.

[Eldarwen]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?

She's far more scared for the amount of power she has than I expected. I also didn't think she'd be so thoughtless as to sending a helpless (in fairies battles) kid along to escort Toby to the cab. The token weak escort to make Toby change her mind was a dick-move, so to speak. It didn't work on Toby and it got Ross killed, even if that wasn't the intention.
Other than that, her healing and her gentleness are what I expected.

14. "Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!" Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?

It's an outburst that can come out of anyone's mouth in a moment of weakness. She has asked for help from Devin, and she knows she isn't alone, but she also knows she can't exactly trust anyone until she knows what happened to Evening. Besides, fairies hold grudges, for a very long time. Toby was no angel and she's a changeling. Makes life harder than it needs be, all the more so because she has no power and no money to offer interesting deals.

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.

Weak and vulnerable, blood-loss, exhaustion, and the disguise of her daughter. It's easy to fool people that way - at least at first. And she was also expecting Devin's kids to show up.

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?

I like it. It's a little different from the norm. And I prefer not having everything spelled out on everyone but learning as the story progresses.

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?

He cares for Toby, yes. But I think he cares only for her because she is the one that got away. He keeps repeating that he doesn't want her to leave again, he doesn't want to lose her again. I think he still sort of sees her as property, especially because it's starting to sound like his time is running out. He doesn't like losing in general, I don't think. Besides, I'm wondering if he doesn't know that Toby has the Hope Chest and that his business dealings with Evening weren't a little different from what he made them out to be.
As for trust? I think we can trust him to be a jerk in every aspect of his life. He is going to turn on Toby, one way or another.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?

She'll survive and she'll fulfill her task, yes. I'm pretty confident. Limbs will probably all still be there as well, though maybe a little bullet-riddled.

[Annalisa]

Set 3 Chapters 14-20

13. We finally meet Lily. What do you think of her? Is she what you expected?
I think Lily was about what I expected. I didn't realize she was able to heal. She was also less confident that I expected her to be, maybe leftover from her experience being trapped along with Toby.

14. Screw you, Evening!"I shouted. "Screw your duty and your dying and...and your going off and leaving me to deal with this alone!"Why would October say she is doing this alone? For what I can see she has a lot of resources and help available. All she has to do is ask. Why wouldn't she ask for help?
I think she was just mad and feeling like she was the only one that would die if she doesn't get answers.

15. Why did October let the Doppelganger in? Was she really fooled? From what I've read so far I wouldn't have expected her to open the door.
I think she was fooled by the Dopplegager. Family is important and we do things we wouldn't normally when it comes to family.

16. I am so confused. There are a lot of new characters and I feel not enough of an explanation as to why they are there. What do you think of the book so far? Do you like the writing style?
I feel like the book is getting better. However, I do not really care for the writing style. I really like McGuire's Wayward Children series I feel like the writing there is a lot more fluid. Here it feels jumbled and at times I don't feel like I'm really getting the characters and who they are.

17. Can we trust Devin? Does he really care for October or does he want something in return?
I don't think we can trust Devin, but that is just because October left him and we don't really know why. He does seem to care for October. I'm not sure how far that goes though. I'm sure he is going to want something in return.

18. Will October find Evenings killer in this book? And more important will she survive with all her limps still attached?
I think she will have all her limbs at the end of the book. There are other books in the series, and her name is the series name. Therefore, I don't see her loosing limbs. I have a feeling she will find the killer, I'm not sure if anything will come of it though.

[Annalisa]

Set 4: 21-end

Finished!

19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?
I think I liked Tybalt best of the possible love interests, but for the most part I didn't care.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?
The Luidaeg was an interesting addition to the story. I felt that she was more developed than some of our other characters, but I still didn't really get a good feel for her. I think that Toby didn't make a mistake but putting the Luidaeg in her debt, if she hadn't I think Toby would have been killed. I'm wondering why the Luidaeg has something against her bloodline.

21 Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?
I wasn't surprised it was him. I think Toby may not have trusted many people but she trusted him because she had a past with him.

22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?
I have to admit that I didn't care for the book all that much. So the ending was the best part, actually the ending was strong.

23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained.
I don't think he knew. I doubt the daughter knew either.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?
I didn't really care for the story or the writing style. I might give the next book a chance, but it isn't likely. I am not a fan of urban fantasy and this didn't do anything to change my mind. The ending of this book was strong enough that I'm curious if the books get better.

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19. October seems to be pretty popular with the men. This section starts with Conner putting the moves on her despite being married. Tybalt also seems to be a potential love interest (which I’m a fan of) and then there’s her husband who we haven’t met yet - I’m leaving Devin off this list for obvious reason. Do you have someone you’d like to see Toby end up with or do you not care about the romance aspect?

Tybalt. No contest!
Devin was just like going back to something comfortable, something she knew, after having been on her own for so long. Connor is just, as she said herself, an idea - someone who needed her, who accepted her, and just someone to actually be there. He's an idiot for making a move on her, not only because he's married but because he only does it now that she's conveniently back in Shadowed Hills more often. Where was he before she went back to court? Cliff is not an option. He's human, he will have aged and she won't have, and it'll make it all clearer to her that it would only have been a passing fancy one way or another (considering that she's going to live for a few centuries most likely). Besides, he doesn't want to see her and I don't get the impression that she's still in love with him.

20. I really like The Luidaeg as a character and think she will be important in later books. What did you think of her? Do you think Toby made a mistake by forcing The Luidaeg in her debt? Why do you think she did it?

Yeah, she's cool. It was probably not the smartest move to open a debt between them but once the Luidaeg has calmed down, she may not be quite as angry at it. There may be ulterior motives, but I think Toby simply had received the answers she needed with fewer questions and didn't want to waste it on something useless. Knowledge is power after all, so it's better not to waste it.

21 Were you surprised it turned out to be Devin? I never liked or trusted him so wasn’t too surprised when he ended up being the bad guy. Why do you think Toby trusted him so much?

No, it wasn't a surprise. I figured it for a while, especially after the way he had been talking. I think Toby's past is just too deeply ingrained in her. Devin has incredibly sway over his kids and relationships like that tend to leave a lot of scars and the behaviour was beaten into all of them, including Toby. It's hard to shed such habits or not falling back into them when you're back in that kind of environment. Toby probably wanted to trust him more than she actually did.

22. I loved it when Toby asked her cats to bring her to their king, Tybalt. Did you have a favorite part or character?

Favourite character, not so much, though I liked Tybalt a lot. Favourite part, hmm, not quite sure but I think this scene as well. Made me grin. And I cannot help but wonder if at least one of the Siamese really is a Cait Sidhe, even if Toby doesn't want to consider it because "that way lies madness".

23. One thing I’ve been wondering about is whether or not her husband, Cliff, knew she is a changeling. She can’t control her illusion at the dawn so did he know about it? Does her daughter? If they know she’s a changeling why wouldn’t she have explained what had happened over the last 14 years? Or did I miss something and all this was explained.

She mentioned at some point that their relationship was based on lies, so I don't think either of them know she is a changeling. Gillian was too young when Toby disappeared and she mentions at some point that Cliff might have known she was hiding something.

24. How did you like it overall? Do you think you will continue on with the series? If you do continue, what are you hoping to know more about it later books?

I liked it because the heroine wasn't your typical urban fantasy / paranormal kind of kick-ass heroine. Toby is deeply flawed and scarred by things that happened to her. More so than most and I like that it doesn't change because she's told at times that she isn't as alone as she thinks. These things take time, and I like that for Toby they really do take time - that is to say, more than just a couple of chapters, probably more than just one book.
Yes, I will continue.