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Assault in first pages and lack of research

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Shan Morgain How can any self respecting woman enjoy this book? I have read only a few pages and I refuse to read more.
This book opens with assault. The hero instantly dominates the heroine in the crudest ways. Her smallness, weakness, helplessness is empahsised against his complete control. He is said to have survived in the wild for a long time yet apparently knows nothing of how to feed on basic wild food. There is acomplete lack of research about hunger symptoms.

The 'hero', having been alone for a long time, encounters a stranger female. He immediately moves towards her, even though she is clearly afraid of him. He allows her no time to get used to him, makes no gestures of peace or reassurance. He moves closer and'looks 'down at her', the first of many emphases that he is bigger than her. She is he says 'a tiny thing' and he compares her to a child.
He reaches out to touch her - no hint of seeking consent. Just grab. This frightens her more so she cries out.
He moves right up to her body and covers her mouth with his hand 'to silence her'. Control 100%. The justification is that her cries will bring danger (predators). Perhaps he could have thought that treating her gently, peacefully, respectfully, offering reassurance might have been better than triggering her terror making her cry out? But no it was more important to grab her, dominate her.
He then shoves her up against a wall of rock, so she specifically can't move much at all. He pushes his body up against hers. He enjoys himself handling her hair which he likes.
He touches her face - she bites him - he is not pleased (what an idiot) - he says he sees the fear in her and in response grips her chin and growls at her to warn her not to bite again. What a clever response (not).
"I know I have won her over" he says, meaning he has her under his control. He continues to paw her, enjoying her hair some more and the feel of her body. She struggles but he takes no notice.
He decides to take her as his own as he earlier took and killed a deer in the same hunting trap that caught her. The parallel is savage.

This is a travesty. Primitive people have elaborate manners. They are not grunting lumps. He speaks of having once had a tribe so he would have learned social manners, how to reassure a stranger he means them no harm. The stranger, the guest, is sacred in all early cultures, unless in numbers large enough to be a threat. A single person is no threat.

He means her harm. He intends to take her as he would cut wood, or pick fruit to eat. She is not a person to him with power of negotiation and consent. She is a warm, softhaired ahimal he wants to play with. There is no hint he wants to get her to the cave for her own safety. He is a toddler that wants a toy. There are still men like that and we do not want to encourage them.

Incidentally he would probably have made some kind of ritual gesture about the deer he killed, before he ate its flesh. This goes back to the earliest hominids.
He would never have lugged the whole deer corpse back to his cave if he was badly weakened by hunger. He'd have sucked some of its blood to get instant strength. Then he'd have hacked some chunks of the deer's flesh to carry to his cave. Once he'd eaten a few meals off it he'd be able to hunt more, quite easily.

The author does not seem to have bothered to research the symptoms of serious hunger. This would have been much more real and interesting than just saying he was hungry several times and he'd forgotten when he last ate. That is actually unlikely as there are always dead leaves, mosses, insects to eat even in winter. Serious hunger produces certain mental states whch would have added interesting detail to his portrait. He would also have been unable to eat solid meat - he'd have thrown up. He would have boiled a few bits in water and drunk it to open up his stomach.

What a silly and nasty book.


Rasa Ievkalne Well,there is a note at the beginning of the book,where author explains,that she invented a whole new species to begin with.To judge a book you only glimpsed from few pages is unfair at least,would you have finished it,you may be able to actually understand where Edh comes from,why he is the way he is and understand his actions.However,seeing as you got riled up about their meeting purely because of your 20th century perception and totally missing the posing and impressing he tried to do to show him as an acceptable match,I doubt you would have seen how gentle and caring the character is throughout the book.Pity,you have so narrowed imagination and so inflated self righteousness.


Mrsbooks You’re hilarious!


Tarsis Edh is so sweet to her! She picks him over civilization, so ... Something good he did or not?


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