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message 201: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments Welcome, Penny!

Also, talk about daydreaming made me want to ask this question:

Does anyone else have really great dreams that they just love? I NEVER have nightmares, and honestly all my dreams are amazing. WAY better than real life. I have no idea why. Basically in my dreams the boy I like likes me back, and I'm constantly either at summer camp with all my best friends or I'm at like parties and stuff with all my best friends. It's NOTHING like my real life, but it's just so great and I love sleep for that reason.


message 202: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments Thanks Eva! And YES!! ....is it bad that a lot of my dreams have to do with my non-existent love life??😅 I don't have nightmares that much, but not all of my dreams are amazing either. They're kind of just.....weird. Like really weird stuff that makes absolutely no sense😂. But my *daydreams* on the other hand(since I can actually control those) are much better and more of me fantasizing about this I wish could happen;)


message 203: by Keeper (new)

Keeper 4Life | 332 comments Mod
YES! Me too!!!!! I have had tons of crushes about this guy I like. He basically doesn't know I exist in real life but in my dreams we are like, best friends! It's sooo disappointing to have to wake up to reality every morning.


message 204: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments Wow, someone actually has good dreams like me? Like, better-than-reality-good? Yay!


message 205: by Fifi (new)

Fifi I'm with you all in the really good dreams club!😴 I get super stressed before bed and listen to this meditation app, Calm, which has sleep stories. But I like, LOVE, my dreams. Same as you all. 🤣And some of them provide really good plot for story ideas or function as story ideas! Sleeping is just fun. 🤣


message 206: by Fifi (new)

Fifi Keepers, Eva, and Penny, as for your love life, don't give up hope! I'm sure if you have a special someone, the person likes you back, and if the person doesn't, well then, this person has got a problem!


message 207: by Fifi (new)

Fifi Cause you all are obviously amazing, as is the rest of this group!!


message 208: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments Hahaha, yes sleep is great! I actually don't remember many of my dreams.....and when I do they rarely make any sense😂 But SAME sometimes I'll wake up and think "Whooaa that could make such a cool story!"


message 209: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments "Whooaa that could make such a cool story!"

Same! I've tried to write books based off my dreams so many times before.


message 210: by Penny (last edited Dec 05, 2018 07:59PM) (new)

Penny | 122 comments Luna wrote: "Keepers, Eva, and Penny, as for your love life, don't give up hope! I'm sure if you have a special someone, the person likes you back, and if the person doesn't, well then, this person has got a pr..."

AWE you're so sweet Luna!!🙈💕😁 I love this group so much; it's amazing how I've never met any of you, I joined one day ago, and yet you all have been so kind!


message 211: by Fifi (new)

Fifi Aww of course! You all are the ones who are so sweet and kind! :D And Penny, we're glad to have you in the group! :)


message 212: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments You know what? I am so proud of our Keeper fandom. So many fandoms around the world have people who are rude and who argue in unkind ways, but everyone in the Keeper fandom comments in such an uplifting way. Thank you guys!


message 213: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments I agree!! So many people are just rude and spout their opinions as if it's the only one that matters and everyone else is just wrong, but I love how the Keeper fandom is able to discuss different opinions kindly and treat each other so well! I really enjoy talking with all of you guys, I love feeling like we're already friends!😂💜


message 214: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments We are already friends :-) and I wish all of you the best going forward. Even though I don't know you guys in person, and I don't know much about your personal lives at all, I still care about you all!


message 215: by Fifi (new)

Fifi Awww I love our fandom, too! Thank you all for making it so easy and constructive to share each one of our opinions! Yeah, I was just thinking, it's so nice to have Goodreads friends, too! Thanks, Eva and Penny! I care about you all, too! :)


message 216: by Eva (last edited Dec 06, 2018 04:35PM) (new)

Eva | 41 comments :-)

Ok, random get-to-know-you questions:

Which Keeper character do you sympathize with (like, feel sorry for) the most? Which character do you find it hard to sympathize with?

Also, which talent is your favorite, and which do you think you would have, even if it isn't your favorite?


message 217: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments My answers:
Question #1: Keefe, but everyone's going to say that. You know who needs more recognition? Because I feel so sorry for her:

Marella. Her mom is really sick, and it's so hard to deal with that.
On top of that, her best friends ditched her and joined a secret organization without so much as saying goodbye.
And as if that wasn't enough, she has a forbidden talent and has to pretend she's Talentless, all the while burning up on the inside with the need to use her powers.
I'm so, so sorry, Marella!

Question #2: I really find it hard to sympathize with Biana & Fitz. Don't worry, I know what they've just been through, but I still think that they're pretty lucky people. They both have great powers and great looks, and they're both really talented, and they both have plenty of friends. They always have a place to call home and two parents who love them, without much confusion or uncertainty in their lives.

Question #3: Hydrokinetic or telepath. Hydrokinetic because it's AWESOME, telepath because I love knowing things and hate being left out of conversations or secrets.

Question #4: Technopath. It's ok, I guess, and there's so much potential in it. I could create gadgets that would give me all kinds of powers. So it's not too bad. But I'm fairly sure I'd be a technopath. (I mean, you all know I'm on this Chromebook way too much, based on how often I comment.


message 218: by Fifi (last edited Dec 06, 2018 04:51PM) (new)

Fifi Ooh, get to know you KOTLC style! Nice job!

Okay, so I feel sorry for....Hmmm. I think the top people I feel sorry for are (in order from 1 being most, and the others very close):
1) Keefe (He has confidence issues, literally no family that loves him, and not to mention, Sophie is with Fitz.)
2) Sophie (Let me just say, poor Sophie. How many times have the Neverseen tried to kill her? How many times has she almost died? Yet that girl still is awesome! Yay for you, Sophie, but I'm really sorry for all the worry in your life!)
3) Mr. Forkle (His twin died. I've got a twin (and little sis), and I can't even imagine that. :( )
4) Marella (Her mom has mood swings and isn't herself. That's just terrible. My mom is one of my best friends, and I am so lucky to have her (and my dad) in my life!)
5) Sophie's sister (She just got told that the elves changed her life. Her name was Amy and now it's Natalie? Her sister is an elf? And the Neverseen literally took her parents hostage? Talk about confusing and depressing!)
6) Linh (after Flashback) (Her twin just got forced to hang with the evil Neverseen. Again, I need my twin with me! I'd feel so bad if my twin (or little sister) was taken away and miss my family so much!)

The other question:

I really, really love Technopaths. I don't even know why. Also, I feel like, weirdly enough, I would be a Technopath (I'm not even that attached to technology) because of how I'm a geeky person. :) But there is a lot of talents, so there are other possibilities.


message 219: by Fifi (new)

Fifi Lol I just read your post, Eva, and we'd be Technopath buddies! :D


message 220: by Fifi (new)

Fifi Oh yeah, and I also feel bad for Dex. (Sophie rejected him, that whole "it's hard speaking a language no one else understands, huh?" convo, he has crazy siblings to watch over (not that siblings are bad, but that's alot of responsibility!), his family isn't respected, and he isn't as valued as he should be at school.)


message 221: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments Honestly this discussion group made me realize that the Keeper fandom really is my favorite fandom ever(and I am a part of quite a few😂)

OOH questions!! Okay here are my answers:

Question #1: I sympathize with Keefe obviously, and I totally agree with you about Marella, Eva! I think though a character that I really sympathize with is Dex. I just feel like he's always in the background and no one really cares enough for him. I mean, his family and friends are amazing, but I feel like he's always kind of been alone. First off, with his parents being a bad match and his siblings being triplets caused a lot of people to look down on him. And he thinks his ability is inferior(even though it's helped them out so many times). And then the feeling of betrayal because his mom had been in the Black Swan for Years but never told him. And then getting rejected by Sophie(this was inevitable, but still). AND the whole thing in Flashback with Fitz bashing on him for his gadgets not working even though it wasn't his fault. I don't know, I just feel like he is constantly getting overlooked and stuff and no one really appreciates him.....

Question #2: I can't really think of anyone else, so I'll just agree with you Eva😂

Question #3: I would love to be an Empath honestly. I think it'd be so cool to know people's emotions, and idk I just find it all very interesting.

Question #4: In all honesty, I think I would probably be Talentless HAHA! But I would still be 100% fine with that! Because think of all the other things you could still do, like telekinesis, body temperature regulation, appetite suppression, holding your breath for hecka long.....it would be awesome just to be an elf!!


message 222: by Keeper (new)

Keeper 4Life | 332 comments Mod
#1. Wylie I guess. Or maybe Jensi. Jensi because I thought he was going to be a big character but we didn't hear about him at all in the last two books. It made me sad. I hope he'll get an awesome Abillity and be amazing!!!! Wylie because his parents. Obviously.


message 223: by Keeper (new)

Keeper 4Life | 332 comments Mod
#2. I would want to be a telepath or a hydrokinetic.

#3. I think I would either be a Inflictor or a hydrokinetic because I am a swimmer and I have annoying mood swings all the time. I'm a teen I guess. I hate when I get mad at my friends-I do it a lot, just ask emily-And I hope it's just because of how old I am and I won't always have a bad temper. lol.


message 224: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments We all go through phases where it's hard to keep out moods under control as teens. All of us. I am a teen as well, and when I'm having trouble with my temper what I find help is to get everything, everything, off my mind. Usually I'll go off on my own and either write what's happened for the past few in a diary or something like that. Then I look it over and just think about it, and put everything in perspective. It helps me cool down.

I'm not saying it will work for everyone, but it works for me.


message 225: by Emily (new)

Emily | 127 comments Question #1: Keefe(obviously), Marella(mother situation), and Dex(He kind of gets pushed aside and over looked).

Question #2: Fintan(evil), Fitz(Almost perfect and has almost anything he wants), Brant(he was just plain horrible).

Question #3: My favorite powers: Hydrokinetic, telepath, and pyrokinetic.

Question #4: If I had any power, it would probably be a Technopath, because I took a quiz and it said I was a Technopath.


message 226: by Fifi (new)

Fifi Emily, yasss, another Technopath buddy!! And Penny, I know, I just want to be an elf! 😂You wouldn't be talentless though! I think you'd actually end up an Empath. 😀 Keeper, believe me, I've gone through some mood swings too! You are not alone! Thank you for the advice, Eva! Yeah, I usually just read when I get upset. 😄

Also, I realized I didn't answer question 2! Whoops, sorry! I feel the least bad for...hmmmm....Luzia Vacker, maybe? She's like, girl, don't make an alliance, look what happened to me, and I'm like, ehhhh you made that choice, missy. I also don't feel bad for Brant at all (he killed Jolie! I know he was depressed at not using his talent, but that does not give him an excuse to act violent!). Surprisingly, Fintan is evil, but I feel a little bad for him after he wants to help Marella in Flashback. I don't feel bad for Lady Gisela at all. She's just evil. I don't feel bad for King Dimitar, either. And I don't feel bad for Alvar or Ruy. Yeah, I don't really feel bad for Fitz. I do feel a little bad for Biana, and of course I feel bad for Alden and Della. I think there is someone else I'm forgetting, but let me think...


message 227: by Faith (new)

Faith (faithbereading) 1. Which Keeper character do you sympathize with (like, feel sorry for) the most?
2. Which character do you find it hard to sympathize with?
3. Which talent is your favorite,
4. Which do you think you would have, even if it isn't your favorite?


I'm gonna quote Eva's questions for those who want to join the QNA


message 228: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments You know, I think a lot of us think we would be technopaths because, after all, we're using technology to say it! So we all use technology, for sure!


message 229: by Linnie (new)

Linnie (themotherbirdy) Eva wrote: "You know, I think a lot of us think we would be technopaths because, after all, we're using technology to say it! So we all use technology, for sure!"

Ha ha LOL great point ya got there, Eva!


message 230: by Linnie (new)

Linnie (themotherbirdy) BTW I want to take a "what talent" quiz but I can't find any of the ones I've seen people post. Does any one have one?


message 231: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments OOH I want to take a test too!! But same, I haven't rly found a good one:/


message 232: by Eva (last edited Dec 11, 2018 02:23PM) (new)

Eva | 41 comments https://www.playbuzz.com/evadvd10/kee...

Here's one that a friend of mine did with my help, she also is part of this club I think but she isn't one Goodreads as often. (It's Magnolia, and I didn't even realize who she was at first even though I know her in real life! Lol. She didn't use her real name to sign up.)


message 233: by Linnie (new)

Linnie (themotherbirdy) My results:

Telepath

You are a telepath. You are very intuitive and and thoughtful. One of your strengths is that you are sensitive to the thoughts and opinions of others. One of you downsides is that you tend to be a bit nosy.


message 234: by Linnie (new)

Linnie (themotherbirdy) Does anyone else take the quiz and answer the exact opposite of you ever? I did, and I got

Pyrokinetic

You are a pyrokinetic. You have a fiery personality. One of your strengths is that you are very strong willed and never give up. One of you downfalls is that you can be hotheaded and irrational.

But the one other quiz I've ever taken said I was a pyrokinetic and that was when I was actually answering right...


message 235: by Linnie (new)

Linnie (themotherbirdy) My friend Alli took it and got:

Mesmer

You are a mesmer. Your actions have a huge effect on those around you. One of your strengths is that you are a great leader. One of your downfalls is that your friends often feel pressured into doing the things you want, even when they don't want to.


message 236: by Linnie (new)

Linnie (themotherbirdy) Wow its so much fun thanks!


message 237: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments HA I GOT:

Empath

You are an empath. You can usually tell what other people are feeling. One of your strengths is that you sympathize with others and give good advice. One of your downfalls is that you can be overwhelmed by the emotions of those around you.


Yayyyy I'm really happy lol! That was a really fun test too! I had a difficult time choosing between some of the answers ahah


message 238: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments Vivien Mavis wrote: "Does anyone else take the quiz and answer the exact opposite of you ever? I did, and I got

Pyrokinetic

You are a pyrokinetic. You have a fiery personality. One of your strengths is that you are v..."


Lol. None of these quizzes are foolproof, and it's really hard to make them foolproof. Honestly, Magnolia and I tried to make it so no one could try to manipulate the quiz to get the talent they wanted. But that also means that it's not exactly accurate. I mean, no quiz is accurate completely.


message 239: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments Magnolia and I tried to make it so no one could try to manipulate the quiz to get the talent they wanted

I really liked how it wasn't one of those super obvious tests where you can clearly see which answer will get you a certain talent. I liked how this test was more discreet;)


message 240: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments Thanks, Magnolia and I worked really hard to make it like that.


message 241: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments I know I helped make the quiz but...

Telepath

You are a telepath. You are very intuitive and and thoughtful. One of your strengths is that you are sensitive to the thoughts and opinions of others. One of you downsides is that you tend to be a bit nosy.


message 242: by Faith (new)

Faith (faithbereading) I got Mesmer and Inflictor, and in some other tests, I get Telepath.

The one about Mesmer's being able to convince people to do stuff even if they don't want to is very accurate! Sometimes I'm really concerned I'm making them do something they don't want to.

You are a mesmer. Your actions have a huge effect on those around you. One of your strengths is that you are a great leader. One of your downfalls is that your friends often feel pressured into doing the things you want, even when they don't want to.


message 243: by Fifi (new)

Fifi That was a fun quiz! Thanks for sharing it! I got Beguiler (Please tell me I'm not like Councillor Alina!😶) the first time, and then I got Empath the second time, which was surprising since I feel like another family member of mine would be a better fit for that. 🙃


message 244: by Linnie (new)

Linnie (themotherbirdy) Penny wrote: "HA I GOT:

Empath

You are an empath. You can usually tell what other people are feeling. One of your strengths is that you sympathize with others and give good advice. One of your downfalls is tha..."


I knew you'd get that!!! Maybe cuz I'm a "telepath" and read your mind as you answered! Or maybe just cuz you just seem like that kind of person....


message 245: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments Vivien Mavis wrote: "Penny wrote: "HA I GOT:

Empath

You are an empath. You can usually tell what other people are feeling. One of your strengths is that you sympathize with others and give good advice. One of your do..."


Haha!! It's probably because you're a Telepath you know;) But heyy no breaching telepath rules!


message 246: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments When I did opposites I got Inflictor. Huh. I guess that's a good thing.


message 247: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments Hmm, interesting! I got Pyrokinetic when I did opposites, which is very true I suppose😂


message 248: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments I realized that there were some important talents we didn't include, like Flasher and that one force-field ability (I'm blanking out on the name), so maybe I'll see if we can add those in sometime. Hopefully that wouldn't throw the quiz off balance, we tried to keep it balanced. What do you guys think, should we add in the missing abilities?


message 249: by Penny (new)

Penny | 122 comments Eva wrote: "I realized that there were some important talents we didn't include, like Flasher and that one force-field ability (I'm blanking out on the name), so maybe I'll see if we can add those in sometime...."

Ooh, Psionipath(no clue if I spelled that right ahah)?? That'd be pretty cool! Well first off, which abilities did you include besides the ones we all listed??


message 250: by Eva (new)

Eva | 41 comments Included:
Beguiler
Descryer
Empath
Froster
Guster
Hydrokinetic
Inflictor
Mesmer
Pyrokinetic
Technopath
Telepath
Vanisher
Shade

Not Included Yet:
Polyglot
Conjurer
Flasher
Psionipath
Enhancing
Astrakinesis
Phaser

I know if we should include Talentless, probably not though....
Also, we didn't include Teleporting, but only Sophie and alicorns have that talent.


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