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Mar 29, 2018 12:25PM

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YUP. Super racist.
I found the book pretty hard to get into initially, both because of the racism and because of the looooooooong sentences and the crazy-dead-lady narration style. But apparently I've adapted, because I'm half-way in now and invested, even though I have no idea where it's going!
I found the book pretty hard to get into initially, both because of the racism and because of the looooooooong sentences and the crazy-dead-lady narration style. But apparently I've adapted, because I'm half-way in now and invested, even though I have no idea where it's going!

Also: I was thinking about how there would likely be pushback against publishing a book like this in the US. The fact it's so celebrated in South America suggests some cultural differences with regards to "political correctness." (Side note: I usually avoid using that phrase because of its negative connotation; my own view is that it's generally a good thing that people are getting more aware of the nuances of hurtful prejudices and biases. So apply something like that phrase but without the bad connotation.)

Two things got me through this book: the arc of Venezuelan history that you both mention above, which was genuinely interesting since I know basically nothing about it, and the fact that the semi-dementia-ridden ghost narrative was *so* hard to follow that I actually was somehow more engaged just trying to figure out who the hell she was talking to/about at any point. I actually did want to know how it ended, I'm a real sucker for generational dramas, even apparently when they're poorly done.
However... racism. I know I read in a review (of another book) at one point that it's one thing to have a racist (sexist, etc.) character in a book, and another thing for that character to put forth those views without being questioned on them. I think the author does try to put in some of that questioning - for instance, when we see the alternating views between her missing Juan del Rosario after he dies; when we see her acknowledge, after watching the bordello, that the only thing she could think to do with Juan del Rosario's mother was lock her up (instead of blame her husband for *raping* his slave...); and then towards the end when she says the only reason she did her long, unending, horrible lawsuit was 'she didn't know how to negotiate'. However, that wasn't enough. It's also frustrating because I get some of the 'everyone is a part of the time they lived' and obviously, she lived at a time when owning slaves was 'ok' - except that, at every time that owning slaves was 'ok,' there were *also* people who knew that it *wasn't* ok. There were people during Dona Ines' time that were less terrible. And also, such an easy way to truly question the narrator's racism within the book would be just to have her descendants be like... an old plantation? That we kept in legal battles to keep from slaves that were related to us? *insert moral questioning of entire reality here.* There's also the fact that I think the author did do some questioning of the misogynistic beliefs of the narrator that was far more effective (e.g. her repeated 'but you never let me leave the neighborhood' motif with her husband), which really makes me think this book is just racist.
Like Becki, I don't think we have to like characters for it to be a good book, but I also don't think we need to spend time humanizing the abusers while ignoring the victims.
However... racism. I know I read in a review (of another book) at one point that it's one thing to have a racist (sexist, etc.) character in a book, and another thing for that character to put forth those views without being questioned on them. I think the author does try to put in some of that questioning - for instance, when we see the alternating views between her missing Juan del Rosario after he dies; when we see her acknowledge, after watching the bordello, that the only thing she could think to do with Juan del Rosario's mother was lock her up (instead of blame her husband for *raping* his slave...); and then towards the end when she says the only reason she did her long, unending, horrible lawsuit was 'she didn't know how to negotiate'. However, that wasn't enough. It's also frustrating because I get some of the 'everyone is a part of the time they lived' and obviously, she lived at a time when owning slaves was 'ok' - except that, at every time that owning slaves was 'ok,' there were *also* people who knew that it *wasn't* ok. There were people during Dona Ines' time that were less terrible. And also, such an easy way to truly question the narrator's racism within the book would be just to have her descendants be like... an old plantation? That we kept in legal battles to keep from slaves that were related to us? *insert moral questioning of entire reality here.* There's also the fact that I think the author did do some questioning of the misogynistic beliefs of the narrator that was far more effective (e.g. her repeated 'but you never let me leave the neighborhood' motif with her husband), which really makes me think this book is just racist.
Like Becki, I don't think we have to like characters for it to be a good book, but I also don't think we need to spend time humanizing the abusers while ignoring the victims.

I would say that she starts to think slightly different in terms of gender, but never thinks 'hey I was wrong to enslave black people'. So no reckoning or redemption there.



Doña Bárbara is on PBS's 'The Great American Read' list that they're doing this summer/fall, I think I'm going to try that one out.